tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post5842801926130836196..comments2024-03-27T09:30:39.371+00:00Comments on Unveiling the Apocalypse: John Paul II - The Triumph of Mary and the Great JubileeEmmett O'Reganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01043723932377194248noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-44360184244629421862012-10-11T23:51:31.104+01:002012-10-11T23:51:31.104+01:00I found the discussion at bottom interesting. The...I found the discussion at bottom interesting. These seem to be the two common ways of interpreting what is to come. I tend to side with the Ven. Holzhauser (maybe out of wishful thinking) <br /><br />I see the progression as something like what Emmett envisions except that the Second Pentecost, with related signs, will initially awaken humanity and cause the Gospel to be preached universally. Humanity's response to this, within a relatively short interlude, will condition the severity of the prophesied Chastisement (and an Antichrist), but the Era of Peace and the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart (which I would also argue is the full flowering of the Second Pentecost) will come one way or the other. The Era and Triumph will last a long time, and then the Final Antichrist will arise.Davehttp://www.rosariesforlife.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-7118382503346083692012-10-08T14:23:36.365+01:002012-10-08T14:23:36.365+01:00Thanks for that detail Anon! I didn't realise ...Thanks for that detail Anon! I didn't realise that was in the visions. I hope Ven. Holzhauser is right, and that there is an extended era of peace for humanity. There's no harm in being optimistic, and no one knows the day or hour. I cite Ven. Holzhauser's prophecy of the conversion of England somewhere on the blog - this will be the start of the Second Pentecost. <br />My own opinion on the duration of the Second Pentecost is mostly formed from Rev 11, which tells how the Two Witnesses are killed by the Beast/Antichrist. The Two Witnesses are the ones who inaugrate the Second Pentecost (one of whom is the Elijah to come, who Malachi 4 tells us will bring the people back to the faith of their fathers before the terrible Day of the Lord). If the Two Witnesses are indeed killed by the Beast/Antichrist, then it stands to reason that it takes place over a single human life time.Emmett O'Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043723932377194248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-43327115585359494092012-10-08T14:12:10.633+01:002012-10-08T14:12:10.633+01:00BTW just to point out: It should be noted that Hol...BTW just to point out: It should be noted that Holzhauser's division of history follows Augustine's division of history into Seven Ages (or six, with the final seventh age) and not Joachim of Fiore's 3 millenarian ages. There is a Catholic Encloepedia from 1900-1911 which erroneously states that Holzhauser division was based upon Joachim. All that Holzhauser has in common with Joachim is what Joachim in turn took from the likes of the 7th century Pseudo-Methodius and all subsequent medieval prophets predicted: a Great Monarch, an Angelic Pope, tribulations, antichrist. Joachim shares this with many others. The key difference is that Holzhauser and other Orthodox writers set the age of peace BEFORE antichrist, whereas Joachim sets his third age of the Holy spirit AFTER Antichrist and is the millenarian heresy. I see no dependence of Holzhauser on Joachim apart from what Joachim has in common with all other authorities. The encloepedia article is thus wrong in that respect. <br /><br />Sorry for bothering you Emmitt! I have wrote too much. Apologies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-56680680007094548622012-10-08T13:39:42.740+01:002012-10-08T13:39:42.740+01:00I agree with you that prophets can be fallible. Al...I agree with you that prophets can be fallible. All the Church does with any private apparition or prophecy is declare that there is nothing in it contrary to faith and morals. Only Public Revelation is certainly true and complete. <br /><br />However, one last section that comes from his "Visions" rather than the Interpretatio: <br /><br />“When everything has been ruined by war; when Catholics are hard pressed by traitorous co-religionists and heretics, then the Hand of Almighty God will work a marvellous change, something apparently impossible according to human understanding. There will rise a valiant monarch anointed by God. He will be a Catholic, a descendant of Louis IX, yet a descendant of an ancient imperial German family, born in exile. He will rule supreme in temporal matters. The Pope will rule supreme in spiritual matters at the same time. Persecution will cease and justice shall rule. Religion seems to be suppressed, but by the changes of entire kingdoms it will be made more firm….He will root out false doctrines and destroy the rule of Moslemism. His dominion will extend from the East to the West. All nations will adore God their Lord according to the Catholic teaching. There will be many wise and just men. The people will love justice, and peace will reign over the whole earth, *for divine power will bind Satan for many years* until the coming of the Son of Perdition.” 14 <br /><br />Once more, Holzhauser's authentic visions indicate many years of peace, a long duration. <br /><br />His commentary on Revelation, suffused with his own insights and what scholarship in his age was able to tell him about past predictions, confirms this.<br /><br />You do not have to agree. I am only stating my and Venerable Holzhauser's opinionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-4727270161358135822012-10-08T13:33:00.652+01:002012-10-08T13:33:00.652+01:00PS The Interpretatio is an interpretation of the A...PS The Interpretatio is an interpretation of the Apocalypse with insight from Hokzhauser's own visions and his use of prior prophetic work. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-16510103334250364612012-10-08T13:30:05.926+01:002012-10-08T13:30:05.926+01:00Dear Emmett,
Thank you for your reply!
The pro...Dear Emmett, <br /><br />Thank you for your reply! <br /><br />The problem is that the most important section relevant to us comes not from the Interpretatio but from the "Visions", which the Interpretatio is an interpretation of based upon scholars (then) knowledge of medieval prophecy (Holzhauser wanted to interpret his prophecies in light of tradition): <br /><br />“[After a world war] will come a new period, in which two mighty ones will face each other. The wrangle between these two will begin in the second half of the twentieth century. It will overthrow mountains and silt up rivers. A great change will come to pass, such as no mortal man will have expected; Heaven and Hell will confront each other in this struggle, old states will perish and light and darkness will be pitted against each other with swords, but it will be swords of a different fashion. With these swords it will be possible to cut up the skies and split the earth. A great lament will come over all mankind and only a small batch will survive the storm, the pestilence and the horror. And neither of the two adversaries will conquer nor be vanquished. Both mighty ones will lie on the ground, and a new mankind will come into existence. God possesses the key to everything. Blessed is he who will then be able to praise him, having obeyed all his commandments. And the great monarch of the world will create new laws for the new mankind and will cause a new age to begin, in which there will be only one flock and one shepherd, and peace will be of long, long duration, for the glory of God in heaven and on earth…” 20<br /><br />This is from the "Visions" not the "Apocalypsin". <br /><br />Are you aware of the important prophecies relating to England in Holzhauser's works (both "Visions" and "Apocalypsin"? I am new to your blog so I don't know). <br /><br />I would be more considerate to Ven. Holzhauser. Pope Benedict XVI is very appreciative of his writings (when the Pope came to Britain in 2010, a copy of his writings was given as a gift to Benedict. I believe the pope has read them in their original German). <br /><br />It is true that the Apocalypsin (but not the Visions) has information and common motifs that were used by all medieval writers from Joachim of Fiore (who was condemned for his beliefs in a Trinitarian set-up to history in which the Papacy would be replaced by a council of twelve, which Holzhauser and other Orthodox writers do not borrow from him although they take other things which are useful since his writings are among the most translated of the middle ages and he did admit his errors and submit to the Mgisterium). The Great Monarch, Angelic Shephered and an evil Persian ruler (Chroseos) was taken, as in many medieval texts, from Joachim for Holzhauser "interpretatio" on his Visions. <br /><br />La Salette has not been approved by the Vatican The bishop granted publication of this message. Rome has the authority to overturn the local bishop's decision. Although it has never happened that Rome overturned a local bishop's condemnation, there have been several cases Rome overturning the local bishop's approval. <br /><br />Other prophecies hint at a long period of time. <br /><br />The most credible of the Marian apparitions mentiong a period of peace (Fatima), gives no indication of time frame. <br /><br />Millenarianism is condemned. Christ will not return to rule as an earthly, seculat Messiah. He is alresdy enthroned as King of Kings above all creation in his glorified resurrection state. However the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart and the Rule of the Church on earth, can last for as long as God wills. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-7201721685040774412012-10-07T12:23:51.716+01:002012-10-07T12:23:51.716+01:00I would question whether the above "prophecy&...I would question whether the above "prophecy" was a geniune private revelation. It is taken from Ven. Holzhauser's Interpretatio Apocalypsis, which was written in the 17th century. This work is mostly personal speculation based on various Medieval prophecies of varying degrees of authenticity, rather than being a direct vision. Crucically, the chronology of the Interpretatio Apocalypsis is based on the millenarianism of Joachim de Fiore (12th century)- whose work on this subject was condemned as heresy by Pope Alexander IV in 1256 and again at the Synod of Arles in 1263, and was also confuted by St. Thomas Aquinas. <br />Some people tend to treat such prophecies as the same level of authority as Scripture - which is a very serious error. The Church teaches that even geniune private revelations can be mistaken, given that they are subject to the limitations of the seer.<br />So we have to be very careful in which private revelations we accept, and acknowledge that they have a hierarchy of authority. Church approved private revelations should be considered the to have the highest level of authority in this regard. So if the Church approved prophecy of La Salette tells us that the period of peace will not last a long time, this would vastly outstrip the above "prophecy" of Ven. Holzhauser in authority:<br /><br /> <br />"Before all that arrives, great disorders will arrive, in the Church, and everywhere. Then, after [that], our Holy Father the Pope will be persecuted. His successor will be a pontiff that nobody expects.<br />Then, after [that], a great peace will come, but it will not last a long time. A monster will come to disturb it."<br /><br />(The Secret given to Maximin Giruad)<br /><br />Also the Catechism of the Catholic Church explicitly teaches that there will not be a long lasting age of triumph for the Church - a notion which it condemns as being part of the heresy of millenarianism:<br /><br /><br />The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgement. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism, especially the "intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism. The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection. The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God's victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven. God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgement after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world. (CCC 676-677)Emmett O'Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043723932377194248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-33853262234460320552012-10-07T00:05:21.140+01:002012-10-07T00:05:21.140+01:00Holzhauser also writes:
"...The Lord will g...Holzhauser also writes: <br /><br />"...The Lord will give good pastors to the Church. Men will live in peace and this will be granted because people will make their peace with God. They will be reconciled with the one God. They will live in the shadow of the powerful Monarch and of his successors; under the protection of the Great Monarch and his successors..."<br /><br />This implies a long time after the 56 year reign of the Monarch. It will be a renaissance of the human spirit "for the glory of God in heaven and on earth". Heaven cannot be glorified by a "few" human deacdes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-11763802897451822492012-10-06T23:59:38.806+01:002012-10-06T23:59:38.806+01:00There will not be a few decacdes. It will be the b...There will not be a few decacdes. It will be the beginning of a New Age of long duration. Don't forget that to God, a day is a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. The Sabbath Day's rest for humanity will last for long human years. <br /><br />As Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser (17th century) predicted: <br /><br />"..."...[After a world war] will come a new period, in which two mighty ones will face each other. The wrangle between these two will begin in the second half of the twentieth century. It will overthrow mountains and silt up rivers. A great change will come to pass, such as no mortal man will have expected; Heaven and Hell will confront each other in this struggle, old states will perish and light and darkness will be pitted against each other with swords, but it will be swords of a different fashion. With these swords it will be possible to cut up the skies and split the earth. A great lament will come over all mankind...And neither of the two adversaries will conquer nor be vanquished. Both mighty ones will lie on the ground, and a new mankind will come into existence. God possesses the key to everything. Blessed is he who will then be able to praise him, having obeyed all his commandments. And the great monarch of the world will create new laws for the new mankind and will cause a new age to begin, in which there will be only one flock and one shepherd, and peace will be of long, long duration, for the glory of God in heaven and on earth. The Sixth Age of the Spirit commences with the powerful Monarch and the Holy Pontiff...This will be an age of consolation in which God will console His Spirit of the affliction and the great tribulation of the preceding age. All the nations will be united in the Catholic faith. The sacerdocy will flower more than ever, and men will seek the kingdom of God in all solicitude... Many saints and doctors will flourish in the earth. Men will love reason and justice. Peace will reign in all the universe, because the divine power will bind Satan for many years, until the son of perdition will rave anew...It is in that age that the relation of the sixth Spirit of the Lord will be known, that is to say the Spirit of Wisdom that God diffuses over all the surfaces of the globes in those times. For men will fear the Lord their God, they will observe the law and serve it with all their heart. The sciences will be multiplied and complete on the earth. The Holy Scriptures will be unanimously understood, without controversy and without the errors of heresies. Men will be enlightened, so much as in the natural sciences and in the celestial sciences. Finally, the Sixth Church, the Church of Philadelphia, is the type of this sixth age, for Philadelphia signifies friendship of brothers, and again guarding the heritage in union with the Lord. Now all these characters convene perfectly in the sixth age, in which they will have love, concord and perfect peace and in which the powerful Monarch will have to consider almost the entire world as his heritage. He will deliver up the earth, with the aid of the Lord his God from all his enemies, of ruin and of all evil...For likewise, in this epoch, the people of Israel will be consoled to a very high degree by the Lord, our God, who will deliver them from the captivity of Babylon. The kingdoms, the nations, and the people will submit to the Roman Empire [new global structure], furiously vanquished by the very powerful and very illustrious monarch who will govern during fifty-six years, rendering the peace of the universe...Thus, in the Sixth Age, God will delight his Church with the greatest prosperity...this monarch will reign in the orient and in the occident. All the nations will come and adore the Lord their God...for all nations will be brought to the unity of the True catholic faith..." <br /><br /><br /><br />The Great Monarch will reign for 56 years and then the world shall be under the shadow and protection of his successors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-67803037424613660862012-07-09T12:36:42.897+01:002012-07-09T12:36:42.897+01:00Hi Ben,
The Catholic Church teaches that there wi...Hi Ben,<br /><br />The Catholic Church teaches that there will not be a future millennial reign of Christ on earth - which is a concept known as millennialism or chiliasm. It's usually only Evangelical dispensationlists that beleive in a future millennial reign of Christ (usually in the form of premillennialism). Chiliasm/millennialism is thought to have been condemned as a heresy by the Council of Constantiople in AD381, and was vigoursly attacked by St. Augustine, who forwarded the amillennial position currently favoured by the Catholic Church - i.e. the millennium began with Christ's binding of Satan (the "strong man" mentioned in the Gospel below) through His own ministry. I suggest in the book that if we need a literal one thousand years, we should look to the first thousand years of Christian unity, before the Church was divided against itself following the Great Schism between the Catholic and Eastern Orthdox Churches in 1054:<br /><br />"Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Or how can someone enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house."<br />(Matt 12:25-29)<br /><br />The loosing of Satan for a while corresponds to Pope Leo XIII's prophecy of the 100 years of Satan's greater power. See the post below:<br /><br />http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/tunguska-pope-leo-xiii-and-opening-of.html<br /><br />Satan will only be thrown into the lake of fire following the resurrection of the dead and Last Judgment. While he fell from grace, the Book of Job and the Book of Revelation tells us that he still had access to the heavenly court, and could come and go between heaven and earth at a whim. Rev 12 tells us that he would be cast to earth by the archangel Michael at some point near the end of the world - a period which corresponds to the end of his hundred years of power. After which he tranfers his power and authority to the beast which rises from the sea in Rev 13 - i.e. the person of the Antichrist.<br /><br />http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/fall-of-satan.html<br /><br />The original secrets of La Salette tell us that the era of peace would not last long before it is disturbed by the coming of a monster. A scenario which is similar suggested by the fact that the Second Pentecost will be established by the Two Witnesses, who will in turn be killed by the beast which rises from the bottomless pit Rev 11:7. This suggests that there is only a few decades at most between the Second Pentecost/era of peace and the coming of the Antichrist.Emmett O'Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043723932377194248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-34712350749989088762012-07-08T11:32:09.503+01:002012-07-08T11:32:09.503+01:00Sr. Faustina's diary uses
St. Faustina writes...Sr. Faustina's diary uses <br />St. Faustina writes statements from Jesus like, "This will take place shortly before the last day." and "before my final coming", concerning the great sign in the heavens (The Warning, ie Jesus crucified in the sky after the Heavens grow dark)<br /><br />But we are to experience 1000 years of peace says the Bible. Is this 1000 years after the warning?<br /><br /> The Fatima message refers to an era of peace, Fr. Gobbi's book states that Satan will be chained and thrown into Hell "once and for all" and also, "from which he (Satan) can no longer get out."<br /><br />But the Bible states in Revelation that, He (Satan in the end) will be loosed for a while.<br /><br />I don't see how Satan being "loosed for a while" fits in to the prophetic landscape? If this period coming is the "final" coming of Jesus and Satan is chained and thrown into Hell, from which he no longer can get out, How does this jive with Satan being loosed for a while?benjoycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034131390067324257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-18385049678480807372012-06-13T10:15:45.603+01:002012-06-13T10:15:45.603+01:00Thanks for that Joe! There is some pretty interest...Thanks for that Joe! There is some pretty interesting stuff in there, although some of it appears to be over-reaching and convulted. But I did see something important among the Scripture references which is almost certainly related to the interpretation of the Third Secret, which I'll include in a post that I'm working on.Emmett O'Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043723932377194248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-697955464352818502012-06-10T15:30:14.561+01:002012-06-10T15:30:14.561+01:00Emmett,
Just watched this video at http://119minis...Emmett,<br />Just watched this video at http://119ministries.com/blow-the-trumpet<br /><br />Pretty interesting. Has a lot to do with the orbit of Venus. I don't know if you can make anything out of it, but a good watch indeed. Might help. <br />Thanksjoerusso777https://www.blogger.com/profile/01941144137421674592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-72998450900997522642012-06-07T15:41:48.554+01:002012-06-07T15:41:48.554+01:00Thanks Jason! I've heard that clip before - it...Thanks Jason! I've heard that clip before - it is very insightful. Yes it does seem that martyrdom will definitely go hand-in-hand with the Second Pentecost/Triumph.<br /><br />Hi rkd, I was thinking of the signifcance of Venus' transit of the Sun - which is a very rare astronomical event. 2012 seems to be stepping up to be another important year for celestial omens - the best since the turn of the millennium, in fact. Although we are forbidden to use study of the stars to attempt to preempt future events (which is astrology), Christ did instruct us to look to astronomical phenomena to be able to discern the "signs of the times":<br /><br />“And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves..."<br />(Luke 21:25)<br /><br />He answered them, “When it is evening, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.’ And in the morning, ‘It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.<br />(Matthew 16:2-3)Emmett O'Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043723932377194248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-84091652308697900032012-06-07T14:00:40.307+01:002012-06-07T14:00:40.307+01:00Cheers Jason, that was a good interview! So much c...Cheers Jason, that was a good interview! So much controversy around Martin, he seemed very switched on and aware of where things were at in the church and the world at large. <br /><br />When he spoke about churchmen destroying the church I thought of Perth Cathedral which recently had $31 million spent on it, and was de-Catholicised almost to the point of sacrilege. The new altar is about 20 metres away from the tabernacle, the beautiful grand high altar gone. The church has been widened and the narrow vertical lofty feeling gone. The accoustics were destroyed due to the amount of glass used and as a result the choir must now stand in front of the tabernacle with their backside to it. <br /><br />One priest called it the "abomination of desolation." A non believing friend said it felt like someone had been murdered there, I thought the faith. Another person commented, it is odd when the Perth Anglican Cathedral is more Catholic than St Mary's. Going to mass there leaves one with the feeling that they haven't gone.Jameyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523915974208712573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-7064502693631889412012-06-07T01:35:27.616+01:002012-06-07T01:35:27.616+01:00Emmett et al,
This doesn't directly concern y...Emmett et al,<br />This doesn't directly concern your latest post, but with the transit of Venus I thought I would give the link to this website who seems to have some insight into some of the signs in the sky, especially this year:<br /><br />http://www.eucharist-emc2.blogspot.com/2012/06/third-signthe-morning-stars-victory-lap.html<br /><br /><br />Do you have any other thoughts Emmett?<br />rkdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-7990087742026442472012-06-06T16:14:32.886+01:002012-06-06T16:14:32.886+01:00Emmett and All,
Go to the 25 min. mark of the fol...Emmett and All,<br /><br />Go to the 25 min. mark of the following interview with Malachi Martin and this may be the event that triggers the Triumph.<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT9xRMwXaZI<br /><br />I found Windwept House to be a prophetic masterpiece. Opinions differ on MM but he was spot on many times. BTW- the whole video is worth listening to. God blessJasonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-76916227049066669122012-06-04T22:13:47.902+01:002012-06-04T22:13:47.902+01:00Amen to that emmett! May all Christians one day so...Amen to that emmett! May all Christians one day soon profess the Faith of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Oh Imacculate Heart of Mary we place our trust in thee.joerusso777https://www.blogger.com/profile/01941144137421674592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-30708794906039900262012-06-03T14:10:58.890+01:002012-06-03T14:10:58.890+01:00Looking at various private revelations Jamey, it d...Looking at various private revelations Jamey, it does seem that the Second Pentecost will be preceded by a "great sign" (the approved ones being that mentioned by Joe above, as well as in the prophecies of Akita), and that it is also connected with the martyrdom of a pope. But it's almost impossible to determine exactly how these events will unfold in advance.<br /><br />That parallel about the finding of Jesus in the Temple and the Church finding Christ again after losing him in a time of confusion is very insightful Joe. Profound in fact. Let's just hope and pray that things unfold in the way these various signs appear to be pointing, and that the Good Shepherd will gather his sheep who are not of this fold, and that there will be one flock and one shepherd:<br /><br />"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd."<br />(John 10:11-16)Emmett O'Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043723932377194248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-39503438451159440832012-06-02T19:15:45.092+01:002012-06-02T19:15:45.092+01:00My thoughts exactly Jamey. You hear prophecies abo...My thoughts exactly Jamey. You hear prophecies about a warning of sorts, or illumination of the Souls. I'm not saying it's true or not, but something like that could for sure spark a Second Pentecost. Either way this passage in St. Faustinas diary comes to mind:<br /><br />Write this: before I come as the Just Judge, I am coming first as the King of Mercy. Before the day of justice arrives, there will be given to people a sign in the heavens of this sort:<br /><br />All light in the heavens will be extinguished, and there will be great darkness over the whole earth. Then the sign of the cross will be seen in the sky, and from the openings where the hands and the feet of the Saviour were nailed will come forth great lights which will light up the earth for a period of time. This will take place shortly before the last day. <br /><br />Emmett,<br /><br />I was sitting in front of Jesus in the Tabernacle at the time it hit me for what it's worth. <br />Your explanation makes a ton of sense. You could almost see a rekindling of the Faith imagery taking place in that passage further as Mary (the Church) finding Jesus again after a time of confusion and almost panic trying to find her son. I may be reaching here, but it's interesting to note.joerusso777https://www.blogger.com/profile/01941144137421674592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-87690920595775254322012-06-02T17:21:01.519+01:002012-06-02T17:21:01.519+01:00Given where the world is at, it seems it will take...Given where the world is at, it seems it will take one or more of the following to cause some of the conversions/second pentecost we are anticipating:<br /><br />- A huge apparition<br />- Natural disaster<br />- Martyrdom (Unfortunately I keep thinking of your post about the Pope Benedict XVI Assassination Plot)<br />- Outpouring of spirit<br /><br />When there were a series of earthquakes/Japanese tsunami/Qld flooding early last year a priest commented in the newspaper that people were returning to church.Jameyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523915974208712573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-72119470599195862352012-06-01T22:24:40.816+01:002012-06-01T22:24:40.816+01:00Well obviously I don't think you are babbling!...Well obviously I don't think you are babbling! I'm glad you understand - all of these concepts combined can be very tricky to grasp without analysing the arguements holistically. You appear to have seen something I just caught on to myself about the reenactment of the life of Christ with your statement "It reflects Jesus time of growing preaching and teaching". I don't want to adhere to set dates or anything - since this is inadvisable, but it is interesting that the next major event in the life of Jesus is that of the "Finding in the Temple". This event, when the Lord first began to reveal his knowledge to the teachers in the Temple, occurred when Christ was twelve years old - which is significant since this is the year 2012 - twelve years after what appears to have been the beginning of the Second Advent:<br /><br />"Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up according to custom. And when the feast was ended, as they were returning, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem. His parents did not know it, but supposing him to be in the group they went a day's journey, but then they began to search for him among their relatives and acquaintances, and when they did not find him, they returned to Jerusalem, searching for him. After three days they found him in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers.<br />(Luke 2:41-47)<br /><br />I wonder if the next significant event in the history of salvation is to happen soon? It will be interesting to see if anything of spiritual importance occurs during the course of this year.Emmett O'Reganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01043723932377194248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6767475475753279918.post-86866762452912824352012-06-01T20:09:18.082+01:002012-06-01T20:09:18.082+01:00I have to say, that I was just blown away at the e...I have to say, that I was just blown away at the end of this post and understood for the first time at the striking parallel between Mary giving birth to Jesus and fleeing into the wilderness, and the woman adorned with the son doing the exact same thing but it being the Church and her seed. The time between fleeing and then to persecution in both instances being a time of preparation for persecution. Now I get why we Will have a Second Pentecost. It reflects Jesus time of growing preaching and teaching. Does this make any sense to anyone else? Or am I just babeling?joerusso777https://www.blogger.com/profile/01941144137421674592noreply@blogger.com