With the recent sudden escalation of significant world events that have taken place since the occurrence of the Great American Solar eclipse on 21st, August, 2017, it should be obvious to anyone paying close enough attention to the "signs of the times" that we have indeed entered into a 40-day period of repentance associated with the appearance of the sign of Jonah. The Latin phrase motus in fine velocior (which means "things accelerate towards the end") has proven correct. When I first noted this pattern of solar eclipses concentrated upon the site of ancient Nineveh, and how this may potentially tie into the significance of the Great American Eclipse on the feast of Our Lady of Knock (see the post The Sign of Jonah and the Binding of Satan), I had no idea what to expect, or even if I was correct in making these connections. It was a surprise to me when other people started pointing out that 40 days after this event brought us up to the Jewish feast of Yom Kippur, and that this was preceded by a 40-day period of repentance in Jewish tradition connected with the Hebrew month of Elul. This was made all the more important in the fact that on this exact year Yom Kippur coincides with the feast of Michaelmas, which is also preceded by a 40-day period of fasting and prayer in Catholic tradition during St. Michael's Lent, beginning on the Solemnity of the Assumption. Given the fact that the Jewish calendar is lunar based, while the Gregorian is solar, the coincidence of these feast days is a relatively rare event.
We have already noted that the Third Secret of Fatima itself alludes to the significance of the Jewish feast of Yom Kippur - when the blood of the sacrificial victim was sprinkled on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant by the Jewish High Priest to atone for the sins of Israel. This was symbolised in its description of the two angels gathering up the blood of the martyrs and sprinkling it upon those making their own personal ascent of Calvary during the final Passover of the Church. So the combination of the Day of Atonement with the description of St. Michael with the flaming sword in the Third Secret appears to be of especial significance in regard to a year when the feasts of Yom Kippur and Michaelmas collide - which just so happens to take place during the centenary of Our Lady of Fatima.
In the extremely short window of time since the eclipse, a series of phenomena has unfolded in locations associated with distinctly Catholic themes, either in apparition sites or occurring over places bearing names of singular Catholic relevance. This was made in conjunction with a sudden massive spike in tensions between North Korea and the United States. Just nine minutes after the eclipse ended on American soil, a 4.2 magnitude earthquake occurred in Ischia, off the coast of Naples in Italy, where the blood of St. Janurius is housed in the local Cathedral. Ominously, the blood of St. Januarius had failed to miraculously liquefy in the ceremony conducted on December, 2016 - which is thought to portend some form of disaster localised around the area of Naples. As well as being the site of ongoing alleged Marian apparitions, Ischia was also the birth place of St. John Joseph of the Cross - an extraordinary wonder worker who lived and died in the monastery of St. Lucia in Naples, where his relics are still held. This bears some relevance in that the young martyr St. Lucia of Syracuse would go on to lend her name to one of the seers of Fatima, Sr. Lucia dos Santos.
Four days after the eclipse, the coast of Texas was battered by Hurricane Harvey, which made landfall on Corpus Christi as a category four storm, causing widespread destruction. We then had North Korea's hydrogen bomb test on Sept 4th, and ICBM tests flying over Japan. On 2nd September, an earthquake swarm began in Idaho centred on Soda Springs, just south of the caldera of the Yellowstone supervolcano. On 10th September, we then had Hurricane Irma bearing down on the coast of Florida as a Category four storm, leaving behind a trail of destruction throughout several islands in the Atlantic. A powerful geomagnetic storm took place on 6th September, 2017, leading to a widespread occurrence of the Northern Lights. Dozens of wildfires were also raging across several states in America. As the official NASA site noted on August 28th:
The United States is the middle of an unfortunate spate of natural disasters. In Texas the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey is causing widespread flooding, and in the western United States just the opposite--dry conditions and extreme heat--are causing widespread forest fires.
(See here)
All of this phenomena centred upon America - hurricanes, fires, earthquakes, etc. echoes the events which took place during the flight of the Prophet Elijah to Mount Horeb (Sinai) for forty days after the apostasy of ancient Israel during the reign of King Ahab and Jezebel:
The angel of the Lord came to him a second time. He touched him and said, “Get up and eat. Your journey will be long and hard.” So he got up. He ate and drank. The food gave him new strength. He traveled for 40 days and 40 nights. He kept going until he arrived at Horeb. It was the mountain of God. There he went into a cave and spent the night.
A message came to Elijah from the Lord. He said, “Elijah, what are you doing here?”
He replied, “Lord God who rules over all, I’ve been very committed to you. The Israelites have turned their backs on your covenant. They have torn down your altars. They’ve put your prophets to death with their swords. I’m the only one left. And they are trying to kill me.”
The Lord said, “Go out. Stand on the mountain in front of me. I am going to pass by.”
As the Lord approached, a very powerful wind tore the mountains apart. It broke up the rocks. But the Lord wasn’t in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake. But the Lord wasn’t in the earthquake. After the earthquake a fire came. But the Lord wasn’t in the fire. And after the fire there was only a gentle whisper. When Elijah heard it, he pulled his coat over his face. He went out and stood at the entrance to the cave.
(IKings 19:7-13)
This in turn parallels the 40 days Moses spent on Mount Sinai following the idolatry of the Golden Calf, in order to make atonement for the sins of the Israelites - an event which is commemorated during the month of Elul.
On the next day Moses said to the people, “You have sinned a great sin. But now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.” So Moses returned to the Lord and said, “Alas, this people has sinned a great sin; they have made for themselves gods of gold. But now, if you will only forgive their sin—but if not, blot me out of the book that you have written.” But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. But now go, lead the people to the place about which I have spoken to you; see, my angel shall go in front of you. Nevertheless, when the day comes for punishment, I will punish them for their sin.”
Then the Lord sent a plague on the people, because they made the calf—the one that Aaron made.
(Exod 32:30-35)
The Lord said to Moses: Write these words; in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel. He was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the ten commandments. Moses came down from Mount Sinai. As he came down from the mountain with the two tablets of the covenant in his hand, Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because he had been talking with God. (Exod 34:27-29)
Just before the stroke of midnight on 7th September, 2017, a huge 8.2 magnitude earthquake struck Mexico in Oaxaca, a few hundred miles south of Mexico City. The capital itself had felt this tremor, and there were various sighting of earthquake lights around the city itself. Mexico City is home to the Basilica of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which was built upon the site of the famous apparitions on Tepayac Hill. Our Lady of Guadalupe is also honoured as the patroness of America and protectress of the unborn, since she had appeared to St. Juan Diego in 1531 in order to bring an end to the ritual of human sacrifice in the New World.
As the website Santa.org states:
We read in the Book of Leviticus how the Lord tells Moses about the serious crime of offering children to be immolated to Molech, referring to the Canaanite custom of sacrificing children to the god Molech. The little victims were first slain and then cremated. (Leviticus 20,1-5 and 18,21).
In the Americas, five centuries ago, cruel human sacrificing rituals were performed on a scale never approached, even remotely, by another peoples. Never before or after in human history a more open, long running, ritualized and institutionalized public showcase of the Culture of Death has been manifested... (Read the full article here)
The practice of human sacrifice would not be manifested again in America until the legalisation of abortion in 1973.
On the feast of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin on 8th September, 2017, just a few hours after the earthquake in Mexico on the 7th, a 5.2 magnitude earthquake struck the prefecture of Akita in Japan, which is the site of another Marian apparition which has been approved by the Catholic Church. Akita is significant in the fact that it occurred at time when America was in the midst of legalising abortion during the Roe vs Wade court action in 1973. Here, Our Lady issued one of the most stark warnings against humanity when the Christian West began to adopt laws that would ensure the slaughter of millions of innocent unborn children.
...if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity...the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son.
(Our Lady of Akita to Sr. Agnes Sasagawa)
It is significant that the date of Michaelmas on 29th September crops up in the bleeding statue phenomena associated with Our Lady of Akita. As the EWTN webpage on Akita notes:
"The statue was carved from a single block of wood from a Katsura tree and is three feet tall. On the same day, a few of the sisters noticed drops of blood flowing from the statue's right hand. On four occasions, this act of blood flow repeated itself. The wound in the statue's hand remained until September 29, when it disappeared. On September 29, the day the wound on the statue disappeared, the sisters noticed the statue had now begun to "sweat", especially on the forehead and neck."
A second earthquake struck Mexico on 19th September, 2017, this time much closer to the home of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico City, almost like a pilgrimage path being traced out along the line of a seismic fault. This occurred on the feast day of Our Lady of La Salette, which ties us back into the significance of the apparition of Our Lady of Knock - which appeared at the exact moment of the ceremony of the canonical crowning of Our Lady of La Salette on 21st August, 1879. This earthquake took place exactly 32 years to the day after an 8.0 magnitude earthquake struck Mexico City on 19th September, 1985 (the year Sr. Lucia said the world was saved from nuclear war). On the same day as this second earthquake near Mexico City, a hurricane named Maria was battering the islands of Guadeloupe, the Virgin Islands (at a place called St. Croix or "Holy Cross"), the islands of St. Lucia and Dominica (after St. Dominic, who instituted the Holy Rosary), while another hurricane called Jose (Joseph) was still swirling about in the Atlantic. Hurricane Maria then made its way to Puerto Rico, and ominously threatened its capital San Juan.
As the Wikipedia article on the island of Guadeloupe states:
"Christopher Columbus named the island Santa María de Guadalupe in 1493 after the Virgin Mary, venerated in the Spanish town of Guadalupe, in Extremadura. Upon becoming a French colony, the Spanish name was retained though altered to French orthography and phonology."
(See here)
When the Blessed Virgin appeared to St. Juan Diego in 1531, she specifically stated that she wished to be referred to as Our Lady of Guadalupe - a title she was already being revered under in Extremadura, Spain. As the Wikipedia article on the original devotion of Our Lady of Guadalupe states:
The shrine [of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Extremadura] houses a statue reputed to have been carved by Luke the Evangelist and given to Saint Leander, archbishop of Seville, by Pope Gregory I. According to local legend, when Seville was taken by the Moors in 712, a group of priests fled northward and buried the statue in the hills near the Guadalupe River in Extremadura. At the beginning of the 14th century, the Virgin appeared one day to a humble cowboy named Gil Cordero who was searching for a missing animal in the mountains. Cordero claimed that the Virgin Mary had appeared to him and ordered him to ask priests to dig at the site of the apparition. Excavating priests rediscovered the hidden statue and built a small shrine around it which evolved into the great Guadalupe monastery.
(See here)
King Alfonso XI of Castile had ascribed the victory secured at the Battle of Río Salado over the Islamic Moors in 1340 to the intercession of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Extremadura, which was in effect a Spanish Lepanto moment. King Alfonso had visited the shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Extremadura on several occasions, requesting the intercession of the Blessed Virgin there, and publically acknowledged that the victory was won due to this pious devotion. After the success of the Spanish and Portuguese armies at the Battle of Río Salado, the forces of Islam would never again be able to invade the Iberian peninsula, which would go on to enable the total defeat of Islam in Spain during the Reconquista - which was finally completed in the year 1492 - the exact year Columbus discovered America. A land which the Blessed Virgin would go on to claim for herself during her apparitions to St. Juan Diego under the title of Our Lady of Guadalupe, winning the conversion of almost an entire continent, and simultaneously vanquishing the rampant practice of human sacrifice.
A practice which was then reinstituted in 1973, prompting the Blessed Virgin to issue a dire warning to humanity during her apparitions at Akita in Japan - the land that first felt the scourge of nuclear warfare when the United States detonated atomic bombs over the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of the Second World War.
So the various earthquakes happening in these precise locations appear to be a further warning to America of the fate which lies in store for it if it continues on its path of devouring its own children by allowing the sin of abortion - a new ritual of human sacrifice deigned to allow the self-interests of ego-centric individuals to continue at the costs of the lives of their unborn offspring. As we noted in the previous post The Third Secret of Fatima and the Children of the Apocalypse, it is the destruction and corruption of innocent children which invokes the great millstone judgement to be meted out on the eschatological Babylon, when the huge mountain burning with fire is thrown into the sea. It will be worth covering some of this material again below.
The destruction of Babylon is symbolized by the angel throwing a huge millstone into the sea, which as well as being derived from the actions of the prophet Jeremiah in Jer 51, is also based on a passage in the Gospels, where Christ warns of the punishment that awaits those who attack the innocent:
Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “So will Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and will be found no more"...
(Rev 18:21)
"When you finish reading this book, tie a stone to it and cast it into the midst of the Euphrates, and say, ‘Thus shall Babylon sink, to rise no more, because of the disaster that I am bringing upon her, and they shall become exhausted.’”
(Jer 51:63-64)
Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “So will Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and will be found no more"...
(Rev 18:21)
"When you finish reading this book, tie a stone to it and cast it into the midst of the Euphrates, and say, ‘Thus shall Babylon sink, to rise no more, because of the disaster that I am bringing upon her, and they shall become exhausted.’”
(Jer 51:63-64)
“Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea."
(Matt 18:5-6)
The angel with the flaming sword, who is charged with protecting the Tree of Life, acts in response to the cries of the blood of innocent children from the ground for Divine justice. Jesus compares the innocence of children to His own believers, and uses this imagery as a warning against anyone who leads them into sin, causing them to fall away from the faith. Indeed the equation between the persecution of innocent children and Christians being led into apostasy is also used in Rev 12, which equates King Herod's slaughter of the innocents to the Devil sending out a flood in an attempt to sweep away the Woman Adorned with the Sun during the Great Apostasy, who represents the Church as well as the Virgin Mary:
The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with a flood. (Rev 12:15)
It is no coincidence then that the legalisation of abortion in the Western hemisphere soon followed the start of the modern apostasy, which found its roots in the cultural revolution of the 1960's. And as we have already discussed at some length elsewhere, the legalisation of abortion in Europe, with the implementation of the UK Abortion Act (which in turn would pave the way for the legalization of abortion in America, following Roe Vs Wade in 1973), directly coincided with the apparitions of Our Lady of Zeitoun in Egypt in April 1968 - the most widely witnessed Marian apparitions in human history. These appearances of Our Lady took place at a site traditionally associated with the flight of the Holy Family into Egypt to escape from King Herod's slaughter of the Holy Innocents, and given the apocalyptic nature of modern Church approved apparitions, they bear an incredible parallel to the vision of the flight of the Woman Adorned with the Sun into the desert in Rev 12. The implication here is that apostasy and abortion go hand-in-hand, and that a nation which falls away from the faith will ultimately begin to devour its own young - an unspeakable transgression which calls down vengeance from heaven.
As of today, on 22nd September, 2017, the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has threatened to respond to President Donald Trump's threats to destroy his country by launching a nuclear missile into the Pacific Ocean as a "warning shot" - a brazen act which, if carried out, could potentially spill over into a full-scale nuclear conflict. As the BBC news website states:
The prospect of a hydrogen bomb being tested in the Pacific raises a terrifying spectre - one that North Korea-watchers have mulled for some time, but which did not seem realistic until this year.
Kim Jong-un could conduct an atmospheric nuclear detonation in the Pacific Ocean.
There are two mechanisms for a test like this. One is for Kim Jong-un to mount the nuclear device he showed the world before his 3 September nuclear test and fire it over Japan, into the Pacific Ocean, and demonstrate a credible thermonuclear capability.
Presumably, witnessing this feat would "tame" Trump into accepting the "equilibrium" that North Korea alluded to earlier this week - a state of stable nuclear deterrence.
Given the inadequacy of existing US and Japanese ballistic missile defence systems, it is far from a sure thing that such a test could be intercepted.
The risks are immense. Civil aviators and mariners in the target area may perish, given that North Korea does not offer international warning of its missile launch plans - unlike other states that routinely test ballistic missiles.
The environmental damage and fallout could be catastrophic. Moreover, should the missile fail over Japan - or prematurely detonate - the consequences would effectively guarantee a nuclear war in retaliation.
(See here)
The world is now standing on a precipice, being threatened with the fire which issues forth from the flaming sword held by the angel of the Third Secret. We can now only be spared through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary. The fact that the angel with the flaming sword is seen calling out three times for the repentance of humanity in the midst of these trials of the Church appears to symbolise three separate periods in which the world would be spared from nuclear destruction to allow for a period of conversion and penance. We already know that the world was brought back from the brink of nuclear self-annihilation during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, and Sr. Lucia herself said that the world was spared a nuclear war that would have broken out in 1985 by the consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in 1984 (leading to the downfall of the Soviet Union). As Cardinal Ratzinger famously stated in his theological commentary in The Message of Fatima:
The angel with the flaming sword on the left of the Mother of God recalls similar images in the Book of Revelation. This represents the threat of judgement which looms over the world. Today the prospect that the world might be reduced to ashes by a sea of fire no longer seems pure fantasy: man himself, with his inventions, has forged the flaming sword. The vision then shows the power which stands opposed to the force of destruction—the splendour of the Mother of God and, stemming from this in a certain way, the summons to penance.
We must now fervently pray that the Mother of God will intercede for us in a last act of salvation to stay the hand of the angel with the flaming sword, in order to allow for a period of conversion and penance before we undergo the trial of the Antichrist.
The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with a flood. (Rev 12:15)
It is no coincidence then that the legalisation of abortion in the Western hemisphere soon followed the start of the modern apostasy, which found its roots in the cultural revolution of the 1960's. And as we have already discussed at some length elsewhere, the legalisation of abortion in Europe, with the implementation of the UK Abortion Act (which in turn would pave the way for the legalization of abortion in America, following Roe Vs Wade in 1973), directly coincided with the apparitions of Our Lady of Zeitoun in Egypt in April 1968 - the most widely witnessed Marian apparitions in human history. These appearances of Our Lady took place at a site traditionally associated with the flight of the Holy Family into Egypt to escape from King Herod's slaughter of the Holy Innocents, and given the apocalyptic nature of modern Church approved apparitions, they bear an incredible parallel to the vision of the flight of the Woman Adorned with the Sun into the desert in Rev 12. The implication here is that apostasy and abortion go hand-in-hand, and that a nation which falls away from the faith will ultimately begin to devour its own young - an unspeakable transgression which calls down vengeance from heaven.
As of today, on 22nd September, 2017, the North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has threatened to respond to President Donald Trump's threats to destroy his country by launching a nuclear missile into the Pacific Ocean as a "warning shot" - a brazen act which, if carried out, could potentially spill over into a full-scale nuclear conflict. As the BBC news website states:
The prospect of a hydrogen bomb being tested in the Pacific raises a terrifying spectre - one that North Korea-watchers have mulled for some time, but which did not seem realistic until this year.
Kim Jong-un could conduct an atmospheric nuclear detonation in the Pacific Ocean.
There are two mechanisms for a test like this. One is for Kim Jong-un to mount the nuclear device he showed the world before his 3 September nuclear test and fire it over Japan, into the Pacific Ocean, and demonstrate a credible thermonuclear capability.
Presumably, witnessing this feat would "tame" Trump into accepting the "equilibrium" that North Korea alluded to earlier this week - a state of stable nuclear deterrence.
Given the inadequacy of existing US and Japanese ballistic missile defence systems, it is far from a sure thing that such a test could be intercepted.
The risks are immense. Civil aviators and mariners in the target area may perish, given that North Korea does not offer international warning of its missile launch plans - unlike other states that routinely test ballistic missiles.
The environmental damage and fallout could be catastrophic. Moreover, should the missile fail over Japan - or prematurely detonate - the consequences would effectively guarantee a nuclear war in retaliation.
(See here)
The world is now standing on a precipice, being threatened with the fire which issues forth from the flaming sword held by the angel of the Third Secret. We can now only be spared through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary. The fact that the angel with the flaming sword is seen calling out three times for the repentance of humanity in the midst of these trials of the Church appears to symbolise three separate periods in which the world would be spared from nuclear destruction to allow for a period of conversion and penance. We already know that the world was brought back from the brink of nuclear self-annihilation during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, and Sr. Lucia herself said that the world was spared a nuclear war that would have broken out in 1985 by the consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in 1984 (leading to the downfall of the Soviet Union). As Cardinal Ratzinger famously stated in his theological commentary in The Message of Fatima:
The angel with the flaming sword on the left of the Mother of God recalls similar images in the Book of Revelation. This represents the threat of judgement which looms over the world. Today the prospect that the world might be reduced to ashes by a sea of fire no longer seems pure fantasy: man himself, with his inventions, has forged the flaming sword. The vision then shows the power which stands opposed to the force of destruction—the splendour of the Mother of God and, stemming from this in a certain way, the summons to penance.
We must now fervently pray that the Mother of God will intercede for us in a last act of salvation to stay the hand of the angel with the flaming sword, in order to allow for a period of conversion and penance before we undergo the trial of the Antichrist.
"...in the plans of the Divine Providence, when God is going to chastise the world He always first exhausts all other remedies. When He sees that the world pays no attention whatsoever, then, as we say in our imperfect way of talking, with a certain fear He presents us the last means of salvation, His Blessed Mother.
If we despise and reject this last means, Heaven will no longer pardon us, because we will have committed a sin that the Gospel calls a sin against the Holy Spirit. This sin consists in openly rejecting – with full knowledge and will – the salvation that is put in our hands."
If we despise and reject this last means, Heaven will no longer pardon us, because we will have committed a sin that the Gospel calls a sin against the Holy Spirit. This sin consists in openly rejecting – with full knowledge and will – the salvation that is put in our hands."
(Sr Lucia to Fr. Fuentes, 1957)
Thank you for gathering all the threads together Emmett and presenting them in such an orderly manner. There can be no denying that our good God is doing everything He possibly can to forewarn us - the ball is squarely in our court. Yes, Blessed Mother is the key. May I please request anyone who has not already signed a petition to Pope Francis to proclaim the fifth Marian dogma of Mary as co-redemptrix, mediatrix and advocate, which She herself has stated will allow Her to release a multitude of graces, to sign online at crownmary.com
ReplyDeleteThis petition is being presented to the Holy Father around October 13.
Karen
Amen ... Ex Cathedra ... Divine Blessings
DeleteExcellent analysis Emmett. In line with warnings given to America specifically, have you heard of the Seton miracles which occurred just outside of D.C. In 1992 and 1993? The bishop at the time did not conduct an investigation amazingly enough, even though he did acknowledge there was phenomena going on. I even spoke to some of the witnesses, of which there were hundreds, including an entire school of children. It is probably the most widespread phenomena of weeping statues ever witnessed in history, and so I believe much more attention needs to be paid to it and hopefully God willing an investigation done soon.
ReplyDeletehttp://mysticpost.com/2017/08/the-seton-miracles-the-most-convincing-case-of-weeping-statues-of-the-virgin-mary-in-history-took-place-in-dc-suburb/
Catherine D.
Thank you, Emmett, for this great rundown of what's going on. It's really helpful to see it like this.
ReplyDeleteTertullian said that Satan plagiarizes the sacraments, and indeed, all holy things. The dragon summoning the beast out of the water, and then the second beast, is like a parody of the Holy Trinity. And abortion is a parody of God the Creator. I once saw a book advertised with the terrible title "The Sacrament of Abortion." It was from a left-wing publisher, and they see abortion as a "sacrament" for the godless. We are truly in a spiritual battle, the battle of our lives. For some reason God put us here now, so we can pray and be a force for good.
While this is all quite fascinating, unless some sort of supernatural event on par with the Miracle of the Sun occurs, I don't really think the world is going to find any of these signs noteworthy or anything more than regularly occurring natural phenomena. If the Revelation 12 Sign tomorrow is truly significant from Heavens perspective, then I would think it would have to be accompanied by some sort of supernatural sign.
ReplyDeleteOn September 9th, a 3.1 earthquake happened 8 miles west of Mount Carmel Illinois. On September 19 another earthquake, this time 3.8 happened 8 miles West of Mt. Carmel IL again. Our Lady, pray for us!
ReplyDelete"When you finish reading this book, tie a stone to it and cast it into the midst of the Euphrates, and say, ‘Thus shall Babylon sink, to rise no more, because of the disaster that I am bringing upon her, and they shall become exhausted.’”
ReplyDelete(Jer 51:63-64)
Over the last week, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) have liberated most of the city of Deir ez-Zor from Isis. The area around Deir ez-Zor is the location where many of the Christians murdered during the Armenian Genocide in WW1 met their fate and are buried. I've taken the following from Wikipedia:
By August 1915, The New York Times repeated an unattributed report that "the roads and the Euphrates are strewn with corpses of exiles, and those who survive are doomed to certain death. It is a plan to exterminate the whole Armenian people"
Today Deir ez-Zor is a battleground again, this time against the scourge of Isis and Islamic extremists. The SAA have crossed the Euphrates are pushing Isis slowly out of Syria. Unfortunately, it looks like the NATO-backed Syrian Defence Forces (SDF), mostly Marxist Kurds, may well end up in conflict with the Syrian army over the next few days. The Kurds are holding an independence referendum in a few days too. Turkey, which has already stated that it will not tolerate an independent Kurdish state, is deploying more military resources along the border with Syria. Iran and Iraq will most certainly not tolerate a Kurdish state either. This could get very nasty and very big very quickly and the West's role in the conflict is shameful in the extreme.
Emmet - you mentioned what happened in Deir ez-Zor during WW1 in your second book. I wonder about the significance of what's happening there at the moment, during this St. Michael's Lent...
-Bradanfeasa
Isn't this the location that corresponds to the "dry bones" passage in Ezekiel?
DeleteFrancesca
Apostolate of Holy Motherhood (1989) - Ed. Dr. Marc Merivalle. Locutions from the Virgin Mary to an anonymous seer Mariamamette 1987. With IMPRIMATUR and NIHIL OBSTAT along with several recommendations from orthodox theologians and including an introduction from Mother Teresa of Calcutta.
ReplyDeleteThis book (pg 14) reveals that the Virgin Mary will literally appear in the sky for the conversion of the multitudes. Mary may appear just before the Warning where Jesus crucified appears in the sky (see Diary of St. Faustina) and all people on earth at the same time experience the illumination of conscience. Will we see a literal manifestation of Rev 12:1 rather than only interpreting this passage in symbolic terms? Retrieved from http://www.catholicprophecy.net/index.html#apostolate
“When the sign occurs in the heavens, there will be instantaneous mass conversions. The wickedness of men would destroy My plan if possible but My power given to Me by God Himself is infinitely greater than all the wickedness in the world. ... Remember this always. It will give you great heart to know and reflect upon this. Satan and his legions cannot prevent My Triumph as hard as they may try, because God Himself has preordained that this should occur in this time. You are fortunate to be living in this time, this era of mercy and love. Not all have been given so great a chance to repent from so much evil. You will know by the sign in the heavens, which is I Myself, that the time is at hand for the instantaneous conversion of the multitude. This will be accomplished through a tremendous outpouring of grace upon the earth given at the hands of God to Me for this purpose. This will be the Triumph of My Immaculate Heart of which I spoke at Fatima” (Apostolate of Holy Motherhood, 1987, p. 14).
The Book of Destiny (1955) – Rev. Herman Bernard Kramer. With IMPRIMATUR and NIHIL OBSTAT
ReplyDeleteApocalypse Chapter XII
1. THE BATTLE BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE DRAGON
Verse 1
Before the eyes of the Seer, a great sign, the first of the “signs”, a portent of something momentous, appears in the Church. It is of divine origin. “Signs” in prophetical terminology are ominous revelations of what is about to happen. Therefore, the apostles asked our Lord for the “sign” of His coming. The Pharisees demanded “a sign from Heaven” as a proof of our Lord’s claim to divinity. The word furthermore denotes the wonders wrought by evil powers. In the Septuagint, the word is used for celestial phenomena. The sign appearing here is GREAT, because it will indicate the time of the judgment that shall proclaim the “Great Day” of almighty God. It will herald the near approach of the events narrated in chapters eleven and thirteen. Appearing in heaven, it will point to the center of the whole desperate struggle for the possession of the world by Satan and his hordes. When this sign appears in the Church, the advent of Antichrist is near. In chapter eleven a reed, a symbol of judgment, was given St. John; in chapter twelve that symbolic action shall be fully explained. The interpretation of this “sign” is thus very important.
… The “sign” that shall appear to announce the arrival of direst judgments for the Church and the world is “a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and on her head a crown of twelve stars”. This is the first “woman” to appear in the Revelations. She dwells in light and her very raiment is light and is thus the antithesis of the powers of darkness whose machinations are dark. She stands in a mass of light, which clothes her entirely, and upon an orb of lesser light. And her head is encircled by a halo of smaller orbs. (Constellation Leo with Mars, Mercury, & Venus?) She thus somewhat resembles Christ and God; yes the light is not her own, does not emanate from her person, as it does from Christ and God, but it is given her for raiment and ornament. These orbs of light are of heavenly origin, tokens of divine endowments. She has received light as her dowry, and on that account the prince of darkness persecutes her. This woman is a contrast to the scarlet woman of chapter XVII. 4.
Verse 2
… However, the text demands a more specific application to the definite future event to which the prophecy obviously points, and in which the Church suffers the keenest pangs passing at that time through the greatest crisis of her whole life. In that travail, she gives birth to some definite “person” who is to RULE the Church with a rod of iron. It then points to a conflict waged within the Church to elect one who was to “rule all nations” in the manner clearly stated. In accord with the text this is unmistakably a PAPAL ELECTION, for only Christ and His Vicar have the divine right to rule ALL NATIONS. Furthermore, the Church does not travail trouble or danger. But at this time the great powers may take a menacing attitude to hinder the election of the logical and expected candidate by threats of a general apostasy, assassination or imprisonment of this candidate if elected. This would suppose an extremely hostile mind in the governments of Europe towards the Church and would cause intense anguish to the Church, because an extended interregnum in the papacy is always disastrous and more so in a time of universal persecution. If Satan would contrive to hinder a papal election, the Church would suffer great travail.
Hi! Thanks for all of your hard work tying these events together. I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention the event happening this Sat., Sept. 23 - the sign of Revelation in the sky. All of this is so interesting. I don't even pretend to know what God has planned, but I have to think that something is happening. Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteSo I guess it's no coincidence that Congress has until September 30th to get a bill passed to repeal Obamacare and defund Planned Parenthood, stopping abortion coverage mandates?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/congress-faces-time-constraint-to-pass-obamacare-replacement-bill
The Washing Post article explains the time crunch.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/why-senate-republicans-are-in-such-a-rush-this-month-on-health-care/2017/09/20/111befe4-9d4b-11e7-9c8d-cf053ff30921_story.html
This is important
ReplyDelete"It is possible that the South Korean president is so focused on talks not only out of electoral commitments, but also because of religious conviction. Moon is a practicing Catholic, and although religious identity is not always an appropriate prism for assessing political decision-making, it may be relevant in this case. "
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/asia/2017-09-22/has-moon-jae-ins-catholicism-influenced-his-diplomacy?cid=int-lea&pgtype=hpg
Okay, right now I don't remember if it was Mighty Righty or Greg, but one of you recently posted a tongue-in-cheek remark about Hurricane Maria following Hurricane Jose. Whichever one of you it was, you'll be interested to know that as of a few hours ago, Maria had taken a sharp northward turn and is now following Jose's path; Catherine D., you may want to note that this storm seems to be heading toward Washington, DC. And, of course, given the size of such storms, Virginia (the location pointed out by Righty or Greg) will also be affected.
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Of course, that's if it doesn't take another turn and head in another direction. One can hope.
JMC
I hate to say it but Trump has picked the wrong approach on North Korea. He wasn't elected to continue the Bush-Obama Neocons foreign policy agenda but that is exactly what he has done with regards to Syria, Ukraine and now North Korea. In fact, the Neocon crowd (which is comprised of Demoncrats as well as RINOs) has laid a trap for Trump with regard to North Korea: they know what an epic disaster a war with North Korea would be for all sides involved, and they hope Trump takes the bait and has the disaster pinned to his legacy. Watching the State-run Mainstream Media talking heads on the major networks I have come to the realization that most Americans probably don't have a clue what a real war with North Korea would look like or what it would entail. Eric Margolis, who has studied North Korea for some time, puts it into the proper perspective:
ReplyDelete"Memory of the bloody, indecisive first Koran War, 1950-53, which killed close to 3 million people, has faded. Few Americans have any idea how ferocious a conventional second Korean War could be. They are used to seeing Uncle Sam beat up small, nearly defenseless nations like Iraq, Libya or Syria that dare defy the Pax Americana.
The US could literally blow North Korea off the map using tactical nuclear weapons based in Japan, South Korea and at sea with the 7th Fleet. Or delivered by B-52 and B-1 bombers and cruise missiles. But this would cause clouds of lethal radiation and radioactive dust to blanket Japan, South Korea and heavily industrialized northeast China, including the capital, Beijing.
China would be expected to threaten retaliation against the United States, Japan and South Korea to deter a nuclear war in next door Korea. At the same time, if heavily attacked, a fight-to-the-end North Korea may fire off a number of nuclear-armed medium-range missiles at Tokyo, Osaka, Okinawa and South Korea. These missiles are hidden in caves in the mountains on wheeled transporters and hard to identify and knock out.
This is a huge risk. Such a nuclear exchange would expose about a third of the world’s economy to nuclear contamination, not to mention spreading nuclear winter around the globe.
A conventional US attack on North Korea would be far more difficult. The North is a small nation of only 24.8 million. Its air and sea forces are obsolete and ineffective. They would be vaporized on the first day of a war. But North Korea’s million-man army has been training and digging in for decades to resist a US invasion. Pyongyang’s 88,000-man Special Forces are poised for suicide attacks on South Korea’s political and military command and control and to cripple key US and South Korean air bases, notably Osan and Kunsan.
North Korea may use chemical weapons such as VX and Sarin to knock out the US/South Korean and Japanese airbases, military depots, ports and communications hubs. Missile attacks would be launched against US bases in Guam and Okinawa.
Short of using nuclear weapons, the US would be faced with mounting a major invasion of mountainous North Korea, something for which it is today unprepared. It took the US six months to assemble a land force in Saudi Arabia just to attack feeble Iraq. Taking on the tough North Korean army and militia in their mountain redoubts will prove a daunting challenge.
US analysts have in the past estimated a US invasion of North Korea would cost some 250,000 American casualties and at least $10 billion, though I believe such a war would cost four times that much today. The Army, Air Force and Marines would have to mobilize reserves to wage a war in Korea. Already overstretched US forces would have to be withdrawn from Europe and the Mideast. Military conscription might have to be re-introduced..." https://ericmargolis.com/2017/04/what-would-korean-war-ii-look-like/
Thank you for the excellent information as well as the interesting comments.
ReplyDeleteAt this point I would argue that the series of disasters discussed that have occurred over the last 40 days is largely attributed to global warming by the American population. Particularly so by the American Catholic population. I do not think there are many who will see this as a call to penance nor associate any of it to industrialized child sacrifice. Something may have been achieved had Moses appeared and announced these disasters on live tv to the President in advance. A miraculous sign in the sky on the 23rd seen by thousands in some relatively remote location will get some utube exposure, but will never be covered by the American media, and thus will be unknown to hardly anyone here. If there is to be any sort of substantial repentance there must be a major event and a clear message. Otherwise I suspect the millstone will be cast into the ocean soon. Irregardless, it will happen sooner or later, because Babylon must fall as this is foretold. Repent and pray. I sure am!
I've followed this blog for several years and read the books and the comments. This is the first time I've made a comment. Thank you all.
Thanks for pointing this out Bradanfeasa! I think this is really important. Deir ez-Zor is the exact location from where the four fallen angels/horsemen were released, at the confluence of the Chebar Canal with the Euphrates - where the Prophet Ezekiel saw various visions connected to eschatological prophecy. So for this area to be so prominent at this time is quite noteworthy.
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ReplyDeleteI agree that there must be a clear supernatural sign given to the world if there is to be a large-scale conversion. We've always had hurricanes, earthquakes, eclipses and other natural disasters. Nothing new here and I don't think most people find them particularly noteworthy or prophetic. I've been told that the "Revelation 12" Sign that is supposed to be special tomorrow is really nothing out of the ordinary and has happened many times in the past.
Well, I've worked 60+ hours this week. If the world ends tomorrow, I won't complain in the least.
ReplyDeleteI had never heard of the weeping statues at SAES Catholic Church before, but it may be relevant that these events unfolded in 1992. That year, the Supreme Court (located in DC) handed down a decision in Planned Parenthood v Casey. Among other things, it reaffirmed the central holding in Roe v Wade.
ReplyDeletePS: This was an opportunity to overturn Roe/legalized abortion, so the case was and remains quite significant.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.unamsanctamcatholicam.com/history/79-history/225-john-paul-ii-admits-1984-consecration-invalid.html
ReplyDeleteThat the papal consecration of Russia to the Mary in union with the bishops as specifically requested at Fatima has not been properly carried out is generally admitted by most Catholics. That Pope John Paul II himself admitted the fact is not as well known.
chris
Thank you Thank you for sharing this wonderful article. I felt this was coming for many years now. God Bless you all.
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ReplyDeleteA few more observations
I think the island of domenica may be named after the Lords day not st Dominic
The la sallette message concerned not keeping the Lord's name
Puerto Rico is originally named after John the Baptist by Columbus and check out the seal of Puerto Rico. It is the lamb seated on the book of the apocalypse with the seven seals
So sept 19 hurricane on la sallette anniversary
Also the 19th is st Januarius and the miracle of his blood becoming liquid did just occur on sept 19th
The Volcanic area associated with him in also in the news as a possible eruption
He was killed in the Diocletian persecution which you said was connected to nicomedia and the aug 18 1999 earthquake
Emmit
ReplyDeleteA few more observations
I think the island of domenica may be named after the Lords day not st Dominic
The la sallette message concerned not keeping the Lord's name
Puerto Rico is originally named after John the Baptist by Columbus and check out the seal of Puerto Rico. It is the lamb seated on the book of the apocalypse with the seven seals
So sept 19 hurricane on la sallette anniversary
Also the 19th is st Januarius and the miracle of his blood becoming liquid did just occur on sept 19th
The Volcanic area associated with him in also in the news as a possible eruption
He was killed in the Diocletian persecution which you said was connected to nicomedia and the aug 18 1999 earthquake
Well, whatever it might mean, as I write this, the Virgo event is happening - the woman clothed with the sun, crowned with 12 stars, with the moon at her feet. I just checked. It's happening right this minute.
ReplyDeleteHurricanes and earthquakes have always happened, but, at least in my memory, never all at once, and particularly not with a war brewing on our doorstep. But you're right; most Americans are seeing it as same-old, same-old. Only a few are seeing it for what it is, and even fewer are actually doing something about it. And I include myself among the negligent. Inertia is extremely difficult to overcome. I'm trying, but I don't always succeed. May we all find grace and strength in Christ and Our Lady to persevere.
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God bless.
JMC
Gems from Padre Pio JMC. I found them helpful.
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Peace and all good to you
Ron OFS
The signs are for the few who see them, so that they will pray and do penance for the conversion of sinners, so that when they die they do not go to hell.
ReplyDeleteA quick internet search showed that Saint Januarius's blood did liquify September 19th. Something else that I wanted to point out is that these recent natural disasters have hit Catholic populations very hard and so I wanted to show that in scripture, Saint Peter wrote in his epistle: For it is time for the judgment to begin with the household of God; if it begins with us, how will it end for those who fail to obey the Gospel of God. "And if the righteous one is barely saved, where will the godless and the sinner appear?"
ReplyDeleteCould it be that all these cataclysmic events striking at places named after Our Lord and Our Lady are signs of the restrainer's hand being lifted? In Genesis, we read that the serpent will strike at the Woman's heel. Perhaps this is what is happening, along with striking at all the places associated with Her Son. If this is the case, then the Serpent may soon strike at the Church in an unmistakeable way as well, and the woman and her remnant offspring will have to separate and flee into the desert for a time.
ReplyDeleteHere is the seal that James P. referenced: http://welcome.topuertorico.org/reference/escudo.shtml
ReplyDeleteWow, the combination of the Lamb of Revelation with the seven seals and John the Baptist...prepare ye the way of the Lord.
Catherine
There is scant to no evidence from internet sources that the blood of St. Januarius did in fact liquefy on 9/19/2017. One site claims it did while not siting any sources. Another site reposted an article from 2016 when the blood did liquify - reading the article makes it clear it is from last year - thus totally unreliable source for this year. The internet is strangely quiet about whether St. Januarius's blood liquified on 9/19/2017. Nothing directly from Naples and nothing directly from the Church.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone has seen clear evidence that it did take place please post the source of that information. Thanks and God bless!
Wow! That's amazing about the seal of Puerto Rico!
ReplyDeleteWord is there is big news coming from Rome in the next 24 hours. Don't know what it is.
ReplyDeleteRumors suggest major announcement on liturgy but nothing is clear at the moment. I found mention of it on Raymond Arroyo's and Rorate Caeli's twitter feeds.
Delete"What we can already say about the news is that it is just one tiny step, a first impulse necessary to set much larger things in motion." Rorate Caeli
Delete"Update: I now hear the announcement will certainly impact Rome and the Pope. But will not come from the Vatican. #AmorisLaetitia ..." Raymond Arroyo tweet
DeleteI have been trying since September 19th 2017 Feast of St. Januarius to verify if his blood liquefied. No positive or readily verifiable source found. Catholic Herald on line U.K. had article night of 19th saying it had not liquefied as late as 7:30pm. The next morning the article was no longer there, and no amount of searching the web for over 8 hours and two days has turned up a definitive answer.
ReplyDelete#2. I've been trying to find out if Sister Agnes Sasagawa, the privileged soul to whom Our Lady of Akita communicated to on October 13,1973 is still living, and if so where does she reside? If she is deceased, when did she die (date?) and where are her remains interred? If anyone knows the answers to these mysteries please post them here with confirming and verifiable information. Akita, Japan has of late been the site of record breaking floods and then a large earthquake in the last several months. Is heaven saying something regarding the AKITA prophecies ????
Look up the seal of Puerto Rico, it's glorious!
ReplyDeleteThis morning there was another earthquake, 6.1, in Oaxaca, Mexico.
Within 24 hours of the deadly quake last Tuesday (Sept 19) near Mexico City, there was a sizeable quake in the ocean off New Zealand, and another off Japan, directly across from Fukashima. Early that same morning there was a sizeable jolt in Los Angeles which awakened hundreds of thousands of people, but left no real damage. All that in 24 hours... Warnings as well as attacks of the evil one inflicting suffering upon Catholic places and people in the flood of fury he pours out against the Woman clothed with the sun? In TODAY'S sky the stars and planets proclaim Rev. 12.
E.A..Bucchianieri writes in her blog (Catholic) that the last time a similar arrangement of planets/stars in the constellation Virgo occurred (an arrangement of stars/planets depicting ch.12 of Revelation) was in the same year as Noah's flood (calculated according to chronology used by Douay Rheims Bible). I had read this connection before, perhaps on an Evangelical Protestant blog, and am trying to trace the reference.
And, as if to heighten our awareness even more fully, Spirit Daily news site says an "unbelievable" document or statement will be released by the Vatican tomorrow, September 24.
These 21 days, from the first Mexico quake on Sept 8 to the feast of St Michael on Sept 29, already include the physical assault of relentless natural disasters at places dedicated to Mary's intercession at Guadeloupe (Spain and Mexico) and other apparitions, punctuated by the visible appearance of Virgo clothed with the sun giving birth in the stars of our current sky, and the "days of fear" leading to Yom Kippur seem to be most urgent calls for penance before the conclusion of 100 Fatima years.
References pointing to the flood of Noah intertwine all of this, echoed in Mary's warning at the Akita apparition of a deluge of fire, greater than the time of Noah, should call everyone "with ears to hear" to profound penance this very moment!
In Daniel's profound 21 day fast humbling his holy soul before God and pleading forgiveness for his people we have the picture of the task set before us. To intercede, now. All of us, and to call as many to prayerful repentance with us as is humanly possible.
It does not seem likely in this earthly life to be certain of the entire meaning of Our Lady of Revelation's signs to us. But she is using the human equivalent of blinking neon lights to get our attention, fast, pray and make reparation with all speed. Her crescedoing cries of Motherly love must mean the hour is NOW.
Francesca
Emmett, after your remark about the seal of Puerto Rico, I had to go look it up, since I had no idea what it looked like. It's an Agnus Dei! The words under it puzzle me, though: Joannes est nomen ejus, Latin for "John is his name." Is that as in John the Baptist, the precursor of the Christ?
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If there's a previous comment that refers to that seal, which evoked your comment, I haven't seen it. Is the seal itself, with the Agnus Dei which got your attention, especially in light of all the places with faith-based names having been hit by severe hurricanes, or was there something specifically related to it?
JMC
Ron, thanks for those gems from St. Pio. I'm sure they'll be a big help.
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"Joannes est nomen ejus" is a quote from the Vulgate of Luke 1:63, referencing St. John the Baptist, the patron saint of Puerto Rico and the one whom the island was originally named after. Interestingly, book with seven seals is associated with the other John, St. John the Apostle.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like the iconography all comes from John the Apostle. "Lamb of God" is a title for Jesus that appears in the Gospel of John. It appears at John 1:29, where John the Baptist sees Jesus and exclaims, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."
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ReplyDeleteThis is the story I saw about st januarius
It seemed that it is referring to sept 2017
But as mentioned I don't know if is a credible source
Pope Francis is accused of heresy by 68 theologians:
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The Church is in crisis.
rose
In 16-page text, 61 priests/laity – joined by SSPX’s +Fellay as lone bishop – issue "filial correction" of Pope: bit.ly/2wdKaqp
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On the day of the Rev 12 sign. Could the tail of the dragon be Apostasy?
Heres a list of some concerning sayings and actions of the pope over the years: https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/the-abcs-of-our-concerns-with-pope-francis
Another earthquake hit mexico city today...6.2
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ReplyDeleteThe site you have identified is the one and only internet site claiming the miracle did take place - as far as I can determine. They make this claim with no supporting sources listed. I have inquired as to their sources with no reply - so far.
No official Church or State sources have stated the miracle took place. As far as I can determine. The internet is strangely quiet.
Given this evenings news, maybe that is why last year, in the presence of Pope Francis, it only partially liquified? That was very curious.
Pray for our Holy Father!
Pray for the Church!
On a more temporal note (but not completely unrelated because these occurrences could leader to events in the prophecies around the cataclysm of a human nature that could lead to the emergence of the Great Monarch; I know people will disagree with me, but I hope we can avoid any personal attacks (as in the past a bit), so here are my top 3 geopolitical concerns right now:
ReplyDelete(1) The independence movement and vote in Catalonia, and the heavy-handed approach (compared at least to my own experience and observations at least in Canada around referendums that have been held by Quebec to separate) the federal Spanish government is taking; could this be the opening days of The Second Spanish Civil War (and as an aside, for the *real* truth on the first Spanish Civil War, I couldn't recommend the Catholic book "The Last Crusade" by frequent EWTN contributor William H. Carroll https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1092153.Last_Crusade enough; it shows that the biggest mass slaughter of Catholic clergy since the Diocletian Persecution was the real catalyst for Franco's moves, who incidentally wasn't a fascist but a military dictator)?
Also, could this area be the spark that leads to wider civil distress and conflict and even revolution in Italy and France foretold as a precursor to the emergence of the Great Monarch (after all Catalonia was once ruled by a French monarch)?
(2) Another independence referendum, for Kurdistan in N. Iraq, though in an always volatile Middle East, this could be a spark to another powder-keg exploding. Though the area is already in a shambles, with an Iranian empire forming from Persia through Iraq, Syria, and into Lebanon right to the coastline, Saudi Arabia and other Sunni Gulf States (as well as Israel's) worst nightmare has occurred, with heavy Russian backing of the Shia (and also including the Alawite off-shoot of Shia in Syria, Hezbollah in Lebanon and now Syria, goo) of the Iranian state, the Islamic State has merely been supplanted by The Islamic Republic of Iran, Sunni replaced by Shia.
Inside this is the larger background of a Shia vs. Sunni civil war shaping up with the likely outcome being an Iranian backed Shia super-state than could take over the Arabian peninsula in addition to its current lands, and maybe even to cover the old boundaries of the entire Ottoman Empire. Lest any of us forget, Mohammad's heirs considered Rome as the next and ultimately final target of conquest after Mecca and Jerusalem, a much bigger spiritual prize than even Constantinople or Vienna.
That Russia is so closely aligned with Iran and Assad in Syria and Hezbollah both at home in Lebanon and as foreign fighters in Syria, well, I won't comment much further in that because I don't think it's needed. We are often rightfully judged by the company we keep (and provide massive and, both civil and military, to, wink wink).
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ReplyDeleteBut in any case, the Kurdish vote is only supported by a single country, Israel, but it is easy to see how Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria will all fight tooth and nail against it, and even though officially opposed by the USA, it's inarguable fact that the Kurds have been the most stalwart of allies to America next to Israel in the region, and in all fairness are long overdue in having a country to call their own (and, no, I'm not forgetting about Saudi Arabia as a US "ally"... with friends like those, as the old saying goes...), and really the Kurds (and their Turkoman co-inhabitants) have had a de facto if not de jure state of they own in N. Iraq since 1991... but anyways, old alliances between Turkey and America could break down and fracture rather quickly; it could all become a very complex quagmire that will make things in the Middle East infinitely worse, and potentially pit the Kurds, Israel, America and coalition allies vs. Russia, Syria, Iran, Iraq and even Turkey in a very direct and extremely dangerous way with an Islamic super-state again a possible outcome, with a coming invasion of the Balkans and Rome as foretold being a not impossible outcome.
(3) PDRK and/or China vs. USA, ROK and potentially Japan. The risk from the PDRK from even one well-placed EMP weapon detonated over the Rockies could leave most if not all of North America starving to death within a matter of weeks, so delicate have our food supply chains become (which makes me happy to live in Saskatchewan, Canada's breadbasket.. though the NATO fighter pilot training school at 15 Wing just south of Moose Jaw doesn't give me near the confidence as not being a target).
Seriously though, even in the best case scenario, if the sanctions lead to a collapse of Kim's central government, both the USA/ROK and China will be rushing in to try to fill the power vacuum as well as securing any and all nuclear weapons... a shooting war between the two opposing sides isn't just not out of the question, but almost unavoidable. 1/3rd of the world's economy would be heavily affected by a regional conflict, which could easily also encompass the tensions over ownership issues in the S. China Sea, and China would have to attack US troops and bases in Japan and Okinawa, drawing Japan into the conflict. China has a very highly developed A2/AT system that could keep any US Carrier Groups very far away.
It's easy to see, just as in Eastern Europe and the Middle East, that we could have Japan, Taiwan, ROK, Vietnam and even the Phillipines getting nuclear weapons ASAP (India could be drawn into conflict as well if China attempts to weaponize the vast amounts of water it holds behind its huge array of hydroelectric dams; it could cause tens of millions of casualties just through the massive flooding it could cause by letting water out, so even water, flood, could be a WMD).
So, ironically, if sanctions against the Kim regime work as intended, a much more serious conflict could well emerge. Even though China has a trade surplus of $800 billion with the USA that would throw the global economy into a deep depression should that flow of goods end, the patriotic tensions of China's "Century of Humiliation" as they call it, and especially anti-Japanese sentiment in both China and the entire Korean peninsula to some extent, well, patriotism can easily override common sense as history shows over and over again.
And these are just 3 potential flashpoints. We are walking on such a geopolitical tight-rope, the world is in a much more precarious state than I think many realize, not unlike the prelude to The Great War.
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-china-could-invade-north-korea-22417
ReplyDeleteSo, Emmett, could the correction of Pope Francis be the beginning of the restoration of the Church? It seems to be oddly timed, given that we're on the Revelation 12-woman clothed with the sun day.
ReplyDeleteExactly 33 years to the day prior to the great Miracle of the Sun in Fatima, that is, on October 13, 1884, Pope Leo XIII had a remarkable vision. When the aged Pontiff had finished celebrating Mass in his private Vatican Chapel, attended by a few Cardinals and members of the Vatican staff, he suddenly stopped at the foot of the altar. He stood there for about 10 minutes, as if in a trance, his face ashen white. Then, going immediately from the Chapel to his office, he composed the prayer to St. Michael, with instructions it be said after all Low Masses everywhere. When asked what had happened, he explained that, as he was about to leave the foot of the altar, he suddenly heard voices - two voices, one kind and gentle, the other guttural and harsh. They seemed to come from near the tabernacle. As he listened, he heard the following conversation: The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord: "I can destroy your Church." The gentle voice of Our Lord: "You can? Then go ahead and do so." Satan:"To do so, I need more time and more power." Our Lord: "How much time? How much power?" Satan: "75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service." Our Lord:
ReplyDelete"You have the time, you will have the power.Do with them what you will." THAT 100 YEARS according to some ends October 13, 2017.
Something quick to point out: the Fatima vision of the "bishop dressed in white" used to confuse me a bit. The vision seems to imply that the seers weren't sure if this was a Pope, but dressed differently, or if the bishop really was the pope. I thought it was confusing because it should be obvious, shouldn't it?
ReplyDeleteThen Francis came along and started dressing differently: more modest, etc.
I'm going to guess that the Fatima vision is referring to Francis and that he'll be "martyred." I bet this will happen on October 13 and will mark the beginning of the restoration.
--KEP
In 1917, radio and television did not exist. We are so accustomed to getting our news the day it happened, or even as it happens, that we tend to forget that, years ago, it could take weeks, or even months, for news to reach some rural areas. Also, the three children were quite young at the time; I believe the youngest was only 8 years old. I know when I was eight years old, Popes still wore full regalia whenever they appeared in public, and I had no idea that his basic garment under all the red and gold was a simple white cassock, and that was with TV. So it never surprised me at all that, while they knew who and what the Pope was, and that he was referred to as the Holy Father, they wouldn't know what he actually looked like and had to be told (in the form of the "impression") who he was in the vision.
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All of that said, you do make an excellent point that, given that Popes back then always wore full regalia in public, Francis certainly would stand out.
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Now, about that fraternal correction being issued to Pope Francis...I seem to remember reading somewhere that a Pope found to be in heresy is automatically deposed. Since he is specifically being accused of heresy in this correction, if he does not accept said correction and recant, would this apply?
Here's an article referencing heresy and the automatic deposition of a pope. Cardinal Burke, in an interview, stated that a pope would automatically cease to be pope if he spoke with formal heresy. I don't know what qualifies as formal heresy.
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Many suspect that a formal correction of the Pope would be issued by Cardinal Burke if the Pope doesn't answer the dubia. Today's correction may only be the first step towards a formal correction by cardinals and bishops.
We are praying for the Pope and for the Church.
Okay, I just found a copy of the correction on line, and I have to withdraw my question, since it specifically states they are not accusing him of formal heresy, but only of promoting heretical opinions, which is not the same thing.
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I sincerely hope and pray Pope Francis takes this as the wake-up call it's meant to be.
JMC
I still question if the Pope from the 3rd secret wasn't Pope John Paul I. My reason for thinking this (besides the many rumours that Pope John Paul I was murdered either my Freemasons, or a Soviet agent who after many decades made his way to near the top of the Vatican hierarchy) is that when the Pope was still only the Patriarch of Venice, when he first met Sr. Lucia she allegedly exclaimed, "Holy Father". Now, she may have been foreseeing that he would become Pope at that immediate time through some sort of supernatural means, but I think just as likely a response was that she still recognized after all those years the soon-to-be Pope John Paul I from her vision of the "bishop dressed in white". I'd imagine that a vision provided to you from Our Lady would leave an indelible impression, which is a fairly good explanation as to why Sr. Lucia called him Holy Father, because she recognized him from her vision of the 3rd secret. The martyred clergy under the CCCP and other Communist regimes may have been those represented in the rest of the vision of the 3rd secret perhaps? This would lead to quite an re-interpretation of the prophecies of St. John Bosco maybe as well?
ReplyDeleteThat's entirely possible. One version of JPI's alleged murder puts forth that he was killed precisely because he insisted he was going to carry out the proper and specific consecration of Russia. I recognize that the vision may have been more symbolic than literal, in which case it becomes even more critical that the words of Our Lady regarding this vision be made known. The vision itself, without what the BVM said about it, has not been a secret for a very long time, if it ever was; I remember reading it as long as thirty-five years ago, about twenty years before it was put forth as referring to Pope St. John Paul II. That simple fact is what has me believing that, in Mother Angelica's words, "We didn't get the whole thing."
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I had a sense when Francis was elected that he could prove to be something of a Gorbachev figure - a reformer whose reforms end up undermining the institution he's supposed to be leading. To be honest, I don't think anyone's covered themselves in glory in all this. What really saddens me is how little Church unity is prized. 'Things fall apart,' as WB Yeats wrote, 'the centre cannot hold,'
ReplyDeleteIMHO, I think Pope emeritus Benedict XVI is the "Bishop in white" of the Fatima third secret. He is a bishop, wears white, but he is no longer Holy Father. Since his resignation he has been brutally attacked and maligned by progressives within the Church and even from outside the Church. Pope emeritus Benedict is hated by many in the world and yet he is an extremely kind and humble man. We may now be witnessing the beginning of the ascent up the hill toward the large hewn cross, seeing many priests and religious slain for defending Christ, His teachings, and the perennial teachings of the Church. Once Benedict reaches the top he will die.
ReplyDeleteLet's not forget that Pope Francis has stated: "I may end up being remembered for having divided the Church."
This "correction" is the beginning of the casting down of the one third of the stars of the heavens. One third of the Church will enter into formal schism and will be extremely wicked towards anyone supporting Christ, His teachings, and His Church and that includes Benedict who is so fragile that he will die of heart ache over what is happening to Christ's Church.
Very distressing times.
Pray for the Holy Father.
Pray for the Church.
CLARIFICATION:
ReplyDeletePope Francis allegedly stated that he may be remembered for splitting the church.
https://onepeterfive.com/pope-francis-reported-words-might-go-history-split-church/
This is the stigmatization of Pope Francis
ReplyDeleteI'm not trying to pick apart Scripture to suit my needs-but it's rather noteworthy IMO, that Luke 21:25-26 was glaring.
ReplyDeleteThe eclipse was on the 21st and Harvey hit on the 25-26.
Just something that was pointed out to me...
Interesting--
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And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves;
Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved;
I think it's appropriate to share this again. The diary entry of St. Faustina the day Pope Francis was born.
ReplyDeleteDecember 17, [1936]. I have offered this day for priests. I have suffered more today than ever before, both interiorly and exteriorly. I did not know it was possible to suffer so much in one day. I tried to make a Holy Hour, in the course of which my spirit had a taste of the bitterness of the Garden of Gethsemane. I am fighting alone, supported by His arm, against all the difficulties that face me like unassailable walls. But I trust in the power of His name and I fear nothing.
— Diary of St. Faustina, 823
What's sad is if you look elsewhere on the internet, there's a number of people who use this as "warning" that Pope Francis is the "False Prophet". :( People are so quick to throw stones at him!
Time to triple up on rosaries for Pope Francis and the Church! I feel some comfort knowing Benedict is most likely praying his heart out for Pope Francis and the Church right now...
I think something major will come of this "filial correction" of Pope Francis, possibly leading to the rebirth of the Church. The only way I see it being fully resolved is by way of an ecumenical council. It is quite possible that St. John Bosco's dream of the two pillars and march of the 200 days comes into play with all this. A Church Council in this day and age would be a true marvel to behold.
ReplyDeleteThat flood issuing from the failing dam in Puerto Rico on the 23rd also seems to be of some significance.
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There is also a volcano rumbling in Bali.
ReplyDeleteEmmett - I'm not sure I get what you mean about this being the "stigmatization of Pope Francis". Could you elaborate?
ReplyDeleteI'm not up to speed on how all of this works. I had to check Wikipedia for info on ecumenical councils. Looks like the Second Council of Nicaea (the last of the first seven ecumenical councils) was held on Sept. 24, 787. Interesting!
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When I read about the Guajataca Dam showing signs of collapsing yesterday, I also found out that "guajataca" means "the water ladle". I couldn't help but think of the Big (or Little) Dipper. Does anyone know if either one has a significant relationship to Virgo???
ReplyDeleteLooks like the blood red moons warning is becoming real!!
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chris
ReplyDeleteWhen obama accepted pope francis with such vigor, i thought immediately as a warning. The clues of his allegiance to globalism and the new world order are evident. One example is his appointing a fiend as the head of the vatican bank. Although it seems terrible, keeping an eye on the Bishop of Rome is not wrong or sinful.
I've been saying for some while now in the comments section that the key to understanding the prophecy of the flood from the mouth of the Dragon is the story of the Miracle of Chonae, when the enemies of St. Archippus (the first bishop of Laodicea) attempted to destroy the sanctuary of St. Michael by redirecting a river down towards it to carry it away. St. Archippus was the preterist layer of interpretation behind the "angel of Laodicea". St. Michael then saved St. Archippus's church by opening up a chasm in the ground to swallow up the river.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the schema of St. Bonaventure, we are the lukewarm church of Laodicea in Rev 3, which Christ threatens to spew forth from his mouth (itself an antithetical parallelism of the flood issued from the mouth of the Dragon). Lourdes was flooded not long after the election of Pope Francis, on June 19th, 2013, harking back to the abdication of Pope Benedict XVI on the feast day of Lourdes.
“And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the origin of God’s creation: “I know your works; you are neither cold nor hot. I wish that you were either cold or hot. So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I am about to spit you out of my mouth." (Rev 3:14-16)
"Then from his mouth the serpent poured water like a river after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman; it opened its mouth and swallowed the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth". (Rev 12:15-16)
Mark, if you read back through the post on St Michael's Lent, there is the implication that Pope Francis would suffer some form of stigmatization on 23rd September this year, given the conflation between the Holy Father, St. Francis of Assisi and St. Padre Pio. Bridget picked up on this in the comments section, and thought that he might literally be stigmatized. I thought it would be figurative. We now know that the stigmatization is a formal accusation of heresy taught within the Magisterium of a sitting pope - which is absolutely unprecedented. Pope John XXII only held materially heretical beliefs in a capacity as a private theologian. He didn't actually teach them as part of his Magisterium. So there isn't really a comparison between the two. While they aren't saying it outright, what these theologians are implying is that Pope Francis has automatically excommunicated himself by publically teaching formal heresy, and is thus no longer pope. This is the first attempt to dispose a sitting pope for heresy.
ReplyDeleteThis is actually part of the prophecy of Zechariah associated with the vision of Pope Leo XIII, when the stained robes of the High Priest Joshua (who represents the pope) is pointed to by Satan before they are removed and made clean:
Then he showed me the high priest Joshua standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him. And the Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, O Satan! The Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this man a brand plucked from the fire?” Now Joshua was dressed with filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. The angel said to those who were standing before him, “Take off his filthy clothes.” And to him he said, “See, I have taken your guilt away from you, and I will clothe you with festal apparel.” And I said, “Let them put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him with the apparel; and the angel of the Lord was standing by. (Zech 3:1-5)
A "stigmatization" carries a penitential connotation. The St. Michael's Lent post makes reference to St. Padre Pio carrying the stigmata for the end of the World War. If we view the Filial Correction as a "stigmatization" of Pope Francis, does this mean that we must see it in the same manner as Padre Pio? That is, the Filial Correction is an unjust maneuver against the pope, who must bear it patiently as a cross?
ReplyDeleteIf so, then this would completely change how I view the situation. I was initially in favor of the Filial Correction, but when viewed through the lens of prophecy, perhaps I need to change my outlook...
ReplyDeleteI think that's the key question, Conrad. On the same theme, referring to Bridget's post above, I wonder why St. Faustina felt such profound desolation on the day of Pope Francis' birth. Is it because he's an agent of corruption who aims to wound and undermine the Church or is it rather because he's a true servant of God destined to suffer much and have all kinds of calumnies levelled at him?
ReplyDeleteDid anyone else notice that the filial correction was written on the feast of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel? It was included in the header with the date. Surely that's significant?
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I read back through Emmett's old post about The Third Secret of Fatima and Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.
http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2012/08/our-lady-of-mt-carmel-visions-of-fatima.html?m=1
That was the first thing I noticed as well. Remember our lady appeared as Our Lady of Mt Carmel during the miracle of the sun. Also as Our Lady of Sorrows.
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more bits and pieces
chris
I think the only thing we can know for certain right now is that whatever is happening, in heaven and on earth, it is vitally serious. I would thus echo Bridget's calls for intensified prayer and fasting - for the Holy Father, for Cardinals Bishops and Priests, and for the Church. We cannot possibly know the full measure of what is unfolding, but we can and must turn in humble prayer to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and St. Michael.
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This is not a "formal" correction. Nor is what they are doing unjust. Pray for the Pope and read the correction thoroughly. We are in uncharted waters. The apostasy is getting much worse and we are seeing the Church against the Anti-Church more clearly than ever before.
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I agree this is definitely not a formal correction; neither is it an accusation of formal heresy.
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A question for any and all here, but especially Emmett, whose insight has been so profitable to so many.
ReplyDeleteWhy is there not greater doubt about the validity of Pope Benedict's resignation and Pope Francis/Antipope Bergoglio's election? It seems, not only to me but to a significant number, that enough doubts have been raised concerning Benedict's statements and actions both before and after his putative resignation.
Some information found here:
https://nonvenipacem.com/2017/07/03/count-me-in-moral-certitude-and-the-invalid-abdication-of-pope-benedict-xvi-still-reigning/
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2017/01/16/cutting-the-crap-31-questions-and-blunt-answers-about-the-catholic-church-and-antipope-bergoglio/
https://nonvenipacem.com/2017/07/22/faq-did-pope-benedict-reveal-his-intent-to-bifurcate-the-papacy-in-the-actual-declaratio/
I would have thought there would be some doubt expressed here; for whether or not one agrees with the direction Francis/Antipope Bergoglio is taking the church, one cannot deny that it is "novel" and "innovative"... which should be a warning to all committed Catholics to review with great seriousness the changes proposed.
Vatican II should have taught us that even when these changes are licit and valid, they can still be destructive.
What this seems to boil down to is the opinion of each individual Catholic on Francis supposed position.
ReplyDeleteFrom my own point of view the refusal to reply or clarify to a letter sent in August (?) has lead to this situation - deliberate confusion.
Does Pope Francis accept that 'irregular' arrangements are valid and are in communion or does he not?
My own view - which is open to change - is that as The Christ himself uttered in Matt 19:6 - "Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
and Matt 19:9 "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery"
So the question we must ask ourselves is which takes precedence the words of the Christ or the words of a Pope; Can a Pope overturn these utterances?
If, as most will accept, a Pope cannot overturn the word of Christ but insists on doing so, then it is he (the Pope) who is removed from the body of Christ not the laymen who refuse his position.
Ladies and gentlemen, on the appearance of the sign of revelation 12, we have our (long predicted) schism!
On the bright side (if there can be a bright side to the actual apocalypse) at least Catholic prophecy has proven to be true!
:)
Here's an interesting interviewing Cardinal Burke as to what a formal correction would look like if the Pope refuses to answer the dubia.
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Take note of the final paragraph: “People can, however, be living in a schismatic situation if the teaching of Christ has been abandoned. The more appropriate word would be the one Our Lady used in her Message of Fatima: apostasy. There can be apostasy within the Church and this, in fact, is what is going on. In connection with the apostasy, Our Lady also referred to the failure of pastors to bring the Church to unity,” he added.
I hope the Church as a whole can act with humility and charity to safeguard and uphold the truth of the gospel and teach it with clarity so that we may all be one in Christ.
RP
I'm a little confused as to why people think of Pope Francis as an invalid pontiff. There hasn't been anything that I've seen in his action or writings that are not re-affirmations of what previous popes have already declared or written. I don't mean this in any sarcastic way, I do feel genuinely confused by these positions; is there anything concrete that anyone can point me toward that shows that Pope Francis is inventing anything new that goes against Church doctrine, the Catechism, or the Deposit of Faith or Scripture in general?
ReplyDeleteI realize he has placed more emphasis on the Social Doctrine of the Church, which is admittedly at odds with a lot of the Ayn Rand-type politics of the more right-leaning political parties, but I can't find anything that isn't in-line with what Pope St. John Paul II commissioned:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html
Hi Anon,
DeleteI don't think anyone has claimed the that Pope Francis' papacy is invalid. Some may claim the possibility that Pope Emeritis Benedicts abdication was invalid; but the filial correction and very few actually believes this. Others may entertain a hypothetical situation where a pope could teach formal heresy and such a pope would be automatically deposed as a result. Nobody is making this claim either.
What the dubia and the filial correction are asking for is clarification of statements made by Pope Francis in the apostolic exhortation, Amoris Laetitia, where he seems to allow pastors to decide if divorced and remarried couples can receive communion. The problem is this puts Francis at odds with Christ himself who stated that such couples are living in adultery. JPII stated that these couples living as brother and sister could obtain communion; however, Amoris Laetitia suggests they can receive communion under pastoral guidance even when living in a perpetual state of sin. This is the main difference between JPII and Francis - and this difference puts Francis in contradiction with Church teaching. The point of the dubia and the filial correction is to point out these errors in hopes that Francis will acknowledge the correction and does what he can to correct the wording of the exhortation.
Beyond the Amoris Laetitia, Pope Francis has made many other errors. He has chastised large Catholic families and told them not to breed as rabbits. He has claimed that when a person dies in mortal sin their soul is annihalted as opposed to suffering eternal damnation. He has appointed bishops of questional character, etc. See https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/the-abcs-of-our-concerns-with-pope-francis
As far as the pope meddling in politics, I don't mind if he focuses challenges my views on immigration and the environment as long as he doesn't contradict church teaching, which he hasn't. But I can also have the opinion that he is wrong because it's not a matter of faith and morals.
@Anon 00:17 - Indeed. I share your position about these right-wing Ayn Rand types. They are a real worry.
ReplyDeleteHowever the issue at hand is (seems to be) whether or not divorced couples (or unmarried or homosexual couples - so-called 'irregular' arrangements) are in communion with (or can receive Communion from) the Church.
Pope Francis seems to think this is acceptable.
The words of Jesus from Matthew (above) seem to indicate this is not acceptable.
I suppose the individual must decide.....
Respectfully, the individual must not decide...that is Protestantism. Indeed, without regard to whether the Filial Correction was the right step, this is part of why they draw attention to the influence of Martin Luther. Once we move from objective truth to subjective judgment, we are no longer in accordance with the Catholic Faith. That is a significant part of why there is so much confusion, at least on the moral questions.
ReplyDeleteSo what happens if Pope Francis chooses not to respond?
ReplyDeleteProbably this. http://fb.me/3LcvkSw9U
DeleteWe must have faith in the Holy Spirit who leads the Church. Entertaining the idea that individuals can decide the truths of the gospel is very dangerous and shouldn't be entertained.
ReplyDeleteit is not up for each individual to decide. We must cling to the Barque of Peter. It is up to the Magesterium to determine if Pope Francis is promoting heresy.
ReplyDeleteYou don't need to be a theologian or a scholar of repute to use the common sense,reason or logic that God gave you.Open your eyes here, the commandments explicitly state thy shall not commit adultery! Jesus Himself stated quite emphatically that divorce is not permittable except for sexual immorality, therefore remarriage without an annulment is mortal sin,this whole correction is absolutely nothing to do with "right wing" types it is fidelity to the faith and to God. Simple question why does Francis refuse to answer the simple questions in this dubia or indeed this correction? He is supposed to guard the deposit of the faith yet he obstinatatly refuses to! In fact he has given tacit acceptance of the Argentinean bishops heretical intetpretation of AL! Common sense and reason not a theology degree or some extreme papalotry points to the truth here, you may not receive if you are in a state of mortal sin! It is sacrilege end of!This false mercy epidemic sweeping the church is a poison, God is mercy most certainly but He is also justice and every mortal sin is an offence against His majesty and His glory. Do not take the lutheran idea of sin boldly, Christ himself said "your sins are forgiven you go and sin NO MORE"
ReplyDeleteIndeed it is not up to the individual to decide which dictum to follow, but it is the responsibility of the individual to decide whether or not they follow a Church where the Living God (Christ) pronounces on the status of relationships or a Pope does.
ReplyDeleteIts difficult, I understand but it seems to be Francis who has put himself in this position, not me and not Christ.
As Anonymous @ 01:18 says "Once we move from objective truth to subjective judgment, we are no longer in accordance with the Catholic Faith."
and Anonymous @ 01:41 says "Entertaining the idea that individuals can decide the truths of the gospel is very dangerous and shouldn't be entertained."
Perhaps these questions should be addressed to Pope Francis, for it is he - Not I - who questions the word of Christ in Matthew 19?
Yes, MightyRighty, I think that's why this crisis is unprecedented. The longer Pope Francis does not answer those questions (which have been put to him in various ways for more than a year), the worse the crisis becomes. We know the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church of Jesus Christ, but tremendous damage can be done - and is being done! - meanwhile. And questions of heresy/apostasy raise profoundly troubling questions about what is the Church and what is the smoke of Satan. For my part, I really hope Pope Francis responds soon, but I do not expect him to, in which case I hope the Cardinals step up. I'm not sure how much longer things can go on like this. Meanwhile, let's all fast and pray.
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Thank you for all the answers, I'll have to read up on Amoris Laetitia... if Pope Francis has actually giving permission for divorced Catholics who have remarried or are in public unmarried relationships to receive communion, that definitely reeks of the heresy of Modernism. The popes' jobs are to help to reveal more of the Deposit of Faith, not to overturn it (of course!). But I'll still give Pope Francis the benefit of the doubt until he speak ex cathedra against some Catholic Doctine I suppose, as this has been the standard with other "bad popes".
ReplyDeleteI seem to remember reading about one pope prior to his becoming pope that was a leading figure in the Church promoting heretical beliefs (it was something like Arianism, Marcionism, or Gnosticism... a false dualistic view in any case), at a time when something like 3/4 of the bishops and lay Catholic were also supporting the specific heresy, who end up shocking everyone because his views moved quickly toward orthodox Catholic teaching, and he became someone who helped stamp out this particular heresy. If anyone else knows this story and the name of this pope in question, I'd love it if you could share, because it is to me a good example of how Our Lord intervenes and changes hearts to make sure the Church is always protected against heresy.
Even Pope Benedict XVI in his early career as a theologian seemed to side with leftist reformers at the Second Vatican Council, but as he got older he became a staunch advocate against Modernism, so maybe Pope Francis, if he is teaching error non-ex cathedra, will have a conversion experience as the pre-pope Josef Ratzinger did? There seems to be quite a bit of precedent of pope's going from heretical views to orthodox ones as they get further into their papacy. But it always seems that any ex cathedra pronouncements are free from error, even when there is a "bad pope" in charge.
And we've definitely had some truly terrible popes before, some who wrote in support of heresy, such as Pope Honorius I being a Monothelite who believed that Our Lord had two natures but only a single will, while the Church had always taught Dyothelitism, that Our Lord has two wills as well, human and divine, just as he had two natures. *But*, Pope Honorius I never taught Monothelism ex cathedra, thus there was no breaching of the great promise from Our Lord, "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." The example though of Pope Honorius I being anathematized 40 years after he died was a big part of the discussion at the First Vatican Council over Papal Infallibility, but ultimately because he never supported Monothelism ex cathedra his example wasn't seen as an example against the concept of Papal Infallibility.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is even if a pope says things in error, that doesn't negate his position as long as those teachings aren't declared ex cathedra (though if Pope Francis is saying that divorced Catholics who have remarried and are in a state of mortal sin because they are living in an adulterous relationship a should be able to receive communion, it sure doesn't help his case as this is obviously a heretical Modernist viewpoint)... but, again, I'll have to research whether he *actually* is teaching this, or if it's a case of people putting words in his mouth).
Anyways, thank you again for the answers and clarifications, I understand how people are feeling about Pope Francis more clearly now.
Gregory
I apologize, I forgot to copy and paste that list of other "bad popes":
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- Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
- Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
- Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy.
- Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
- Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
- Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
- Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
- Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Gregory
After reading a fairly in-depth summary of Amoris laetitia that contradicts Canon 915, but I guess the proof will be in the pudding; if any diocese starts giving communion to anyone in a public state of mortal sin as a matter of course, and Pope Francis doesn't correct him, I'd agree that the pope is acting in a heretical way as a Modernist. But I think it will take some time to see how this all develops, and way, if any, response will come from the pope regarding any serious abuses that might turn up (e.g. in the Church in Germany especially).
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Greogry
Look to Argentina and Malta and also have a read of Cardinal Schonborns interpretation,which i believe Francis has stated as the definitive interpretation of AL, by their fruits ye shall know them.
DeleteFrom Our Lady of Revelation Part 2 (the Tre Fontane apparitions and subsequent apparitions to Bruno) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vjmPDY0avw
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40:53 The Virgin: December 31, 1990: False prophets seek with all means to poison souls, changing the doctrine of Jesus my beloved Son into satanic doctrines and they will remove the sacrifice of the cross that is repeating on the altars of the world. These poisoners will take away the means of Salvation and they have already penetrated into the light of the Church.
41:24 September 21, 1988 Bruno: What I have dreamed will never happen - it is too paninful and I hope the Lord will not allow the Pope to deny all the truths of the faith to put himself in the place of God . How much pain I felt in the night - my legs became paralyzed and I could no longer move for the pain which I felt when I saw the Church reduced to a mass of ruins.
I expected and prepared my soul for physical catastrophes and apostasy of the faithful and my friends, but not the Pope. Lucia said God is with the Pope, so who is with the Pope is with God. ALos we are told to not judge our priests.
I feel these things cannot be happening, it is too surreal, so I try to tell myself there must be some mistake or we don't have the full story. It is getting hard to tell who are the good guys these days.
God bless,
Greg J Cring
Correction: I had meant to write that Amoris laetitia does *not* contradict Canon 915, though of course it will all be in the interpretation by the national Councils of Bishops, individual dioceses, and the Cardinals, and how the Holy Father deals with any abuses (hopefully with vigor, or we are all in for a very bumpy ride when we need the Church whole and united like never before in these troubled times). I'm going to try to pray a Morning Offering every day especially for the Holy Spirit to guide Pope Francis, and for his intentions.
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So, my sister went crazy. Became a mean drunk and cheated on my brother-in-law. She became an absolute barrier to the relationship he was able to have with their children, through lies, deceit, and narcissism. This went on for years. For the proper rearing of his children, he got a divorce. Even as devout Catholic, I can't think of another option. This, after years of trying and being there for her in her sickness, to no avail. It took two years for the annulment to get approved. It was a no-brainer, slam-dunk... easy to get approved... but he went two years without the Sacrament of the Eucharist, yet he never missed Mass. what are we to do with victims like this? Would Jesus offer him the Eucharist? Is this who Francis is considering?
ReplyDeletetwo quotes by Cardinal Caffarra:
ReplyDelete"One of the things that most worried him [Cardinal Caffarra] was the conception that some people have of the papacy. I remember that he detailed two symptoms: the first being, when Pius XII wanted to change the discipline of the Eucharistic fast, he asked a theological commission not first to study the change, but first to tell him IF he had the legitimacy to make that change. Such was the feeling that Pope Pacelli had with regard to his own smallness as the Supreme Pontiff. The second symptom was the cardinals’ oath. Caffarra said that, until Paul VI, the cardinals swore always to tell the truth, “and not what the Pope wants to hear.” Since the reforms of Montini, the cardinals now vow to defend the Pope with their blood."
@ Greg, concerning the sacrifice of the Cross, you mentioned ... a piece of information (Aldo Maria Valli) regarding the future of the Church, according to Pope Francis, that doesnt sound very catholic at all:
"L’avvenire della Chiesa? «Più attorno alla parola di Dio che all’Eucaristia». Così avrebbe detto Francesco a un vescovo canadese, ricevuto mesi fa in Vaticano. Il vescovo lo riferisce a Radio Canada. Spero che il signor vescovo abbia capito male."
in French: http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1048473/leveque-de-rouyn-noranda-rencontre-le-pape-francois
Indeed, this thing has become too surreal.
Pray for our Holy Father!
Pray for the Church!
God bless
Gustavo
For those who think this is only about Amoris laetitia, there might be more to come.
ReplyDeleteEdward Pentin reports there is a secret Vatican commission studying Humanae Vitae for its 50th anniversary. The fear is the same approach used in Amoris laetitia will be used to 'weaken' the Church teaching that forbids contraception, and some contraception will thus be allowed. That same approach is: It will be stated that the doctrine against contraception hasn't changed, and won't change, but it will be declared that in some situations it is impossible for people to follow that doctrine so exceptions must be made for them. I have no idea who couldn't follow a doctrine against contraception? Hopefully this won't happen, but the writing is on the wall already, according to Edward Pentin.
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/humanae-vitae-comes-under-fire
And if people are allowed to not follow a doctrine, is it really a doctrine or is this just 1984 double-speak?
God bless,
Greg J Cring
@Anon 04:41
ReplyDeleteAs long as the person who got divorced wasn't in a relationship with anyone else, why would they be denied the Eucharist before the annulment was done?
I think the point is that if someone who has not got an annulment *and* is in a new relationship with someone else (adultery), and therefore in a state of mortal sin, they wouldn't be able to receive the Eucharist, as is the case with *anyone* (most especially in a public state of mortal sin as it would bring scandal upon the Church)... even any of us are knowingly in a state of mortal sin should absolutely not receive the Eucharist as it compounds the sin; we should stop whatever activity has put us in this state, do a thorough examination of conscience, go and make a good confession, and only then should we receive the Eucharist... just because someone is legally divorced, they are still in the eyes of the Church married sacramentally, so as long as they are living in a state of celibacy there should be no reason they can't receive the Blessed Sacrament.
Well, is an objective mortal sin an actual mortal sin? Pope Francis is saying not always, and that pastors should be able to dispense cases where it is not actual mortal sin, so no one who is able to is excluded from communion.
ReplyDeleteIs when to withhold communion a matter of Church discipline? Yes. Does Francis have the authority to change Church discipline? You betcha.
People are cutting themselves against the rock on which Christ built His Church.
The central thrust behind the prophecy of Pope Leo XIII is that a wager was made between God and the Devil about whether Satan could destroy the Church of Christ within the permitted timeframe. Now that we have reached the end of this timeframe, we are immediately presented with a number of theologians accusing a reigning pope of teaching heresy in a magisterial document. Since the First Vatican Council, the Church has taught there was a certain papal charism which prevented the Successor of St. Peter from erring in matters of faith and morals even in the non-infallible documents of his ordinary Magisterium (which is to be distinguished from the extraordinary infallible Magisterium issued ex cathedra). We are required to give ascent to the Magisterium of the Church even in the ordinary non-infallible magisterium, which requires submission of the will and intellect.
ReplyDelete"Canon. 752: Although not an assent of faith, a religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals when they exercise the authentic magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim it by definitive act; therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it."
As such, the Catholic Church teaches that the pope is incapable of teaching heresy as part of his ordinary non-infallible Magisterium. Yet we have these theologians saying that Pope Francis has issued a Magisterial document which contains several heresies. What this boils down to, is that these theologians are saying that the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church of Christ. They are effectively stating that Satan has won the wager, and that the Devil has succeeded in destroying the Church of Christ. This accusation is part of the prophecy itself, when we see Satan pointing to the soiled garments of the Jewish High Priest Joshua. However, when we look to the prophecy in Job, Satan does not win the wager, and the servant of God does not deny his Master.
What do you think are the stakes of the wager? An extended timeframe?
DeleteDoesn't Job receive a strong rebuke from God?
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Oh Emmett,did I read somewhere you were from the falls? How it pains me to see a fellow 'westie' live up to the papolatry labels paisley and his errant brethren used to apply to us. I guess the instruction I received from the Christian brothers at St Marys and the priests at Corpus Christi differed from what was on offer further down the whiterock 😉
DeleteThe drafters of the correction have said nothing of the sort that you allude to, they want him to clarify teaching nothing more,as is his duty as vicar of Christ! The gates of hell will never prevail but what is more likely is a small faithful remnant upholding the truth of the faith. You above most people should know of the plethora of visions alluding to apostasy and heresy beginning at the top of the church ? Cardinal against cardinal? Bishop against bishop? The smoke of satan entering the church? Why won't he answer the dubia or adress the correction? Why does he allow heretical interpretations of his own document? The man espouses dialogue constantly yet stubbornly ignores the concerns of his own flock!!! Incredible!!!
He himself said he may be the man who causes schism, now we are in a position where the universality of the churches teaching is shattered, we now have instances where if you are in mortal sin through adultery you may commit sacrilege in Argentina,Malta and Germany but not in Poland????? So if I'm an adulterer living in Poland i should really upsticks to Germany and pick and chose whose doctrine suits me most! Sounds an awful lot like the pick and mix theology of martin luther, a man who elicits fawning admiration from our current holy father!! Incidently the vatican website is now blocking access to the website of the correction!!! So much for his love of dialogue!! The chinese state does that with 'dissident' websites do they not?? How about the treatment of priests and scholars who dare question AL? Sacked and defrocked!!! Their crime fidelity to the church! Compare and contrast his treatment of priests who scandalise the faithful, overturning Benesicts defrocking of a child abusing priest only for said priest to abuse again!! Cocaine laden orgies in the buildings of the CDF the mosignor responsible packed off to a nice
rehab clinic!! By their fruits ye shall know them!!
So who is right then Emmett? His many predecessors whose teachings he rides roughshod over? Jesus Christ Himself stating thy shall not commit adultery? The sixth commandment??? My apologies if this post seems lacking in charity, the confusion this man perpotrates stirs my senses and emotions like no other but like others have suggested the remedy perhaps lies in ceaseless prayer and fasting for him and for the church.
It is not the document, it is the interpretation. It's two different things. Muller oked the document but not the false interpretation.
ReplyDelete"What this boils down to, is that these theologians are saying that the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church of Christ"
ReplyDeleteI dont think we're at that stage yet, Emmett.
The Chicago Tribune reports that it opens "the door to letting civilly remarried Catholics receive Communion. Church teaching holds that unless these Catholics obtain an annulment — a church decree that their first marriage was invalid — they cannot receive the sacraments, since they are seen as committing adultery."
The Pope has been challenged on this, over a year ago, and as I understand it has refused to answer or clarify his position.
This situation has arisen, not because people have raised questions rather because of this 'nudge-nudge, wink-wink' approach to such a fundamental tenet of Church teaching.
The Pope may indeed be entitled to change such a requirement - indeed he may be infallible - but it seems a very bizarre position to suggest changing one of the very few Church teachings that Jesus Himself pronounced on.
Luckily, there is an 'out'; Francis must recant, clarify, answer, respond or whatever is required to take the Church back from the brink.
Its entirely in his hands.
As an aside. I would suggest that the 'smoke of Satan' was prophesied to rise to the top of the church and cause confusion. It didnt say the smoke of Satan will confuse some minor provincial bishops and lead them astray.
(I am minded too of the non-Catholic prophecy by Coinneach Odhar in c17 Scotland that certain local events would occur 'When the Pope in Rome is knocked off his throne')
Ok, let’s all keep breathing. Yes, this is kinda surreal, but it’s not, pardon the phrase, the end of the world.
ReplyDelete“What this boils down to, is that these theologians are saying that the gates of Hell have prevailed against the Church of Christ. They are effectively stating that Satan has won the wager, and that the Devil has succeeded in destroying the Church of Christ.”
I disagree. The words of Christ – the gates of hell shall not prevail against it – trump the private revelation of Leo XIII. In fact, the words of Christ trump the Catechism.
"Canon. 752: Although not an assent of faith, a religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals when they exercise the authentic magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim it by definitive act; therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it."
A couple of things.
First off, I read contracts regularly as part of my job. The first thing that struck me about Canon 752 is this: “…when they exercise the authentic magisterium…” And what if this is somehow deemed to be outside the “authentic” magisterium? What if it’s deemed to have been somehow exercised improperly? Given the interpretations that have abounded, I think that’s possible.
Secondly, I’m not sure this is a change of doctrine so much as a change of discipline. I’m not a canon lawyer, but it’s not hard to find one:
“I do not think that Francis changed any doctrines in Amoris (or even purported to change any doctrines—assuming a pope could have changed doctrines this way, which I would dispute) and thus I regard the kind of correctives routinely offered by Nichols, et al., as superfluous. But I’ll go a step further: I do not think that Francis changed any disciplines in Amoris (or even purported to change any disciplines—assuming a pope could have changed disciplines this way, which I would also dispute, though less vigorously than above). In short, I hold that the few who claim Francis changed doctrine via Amoris, and the many who claim that he changed disciplines therein, are wrong.” Ed Peters, February 23, 2017
It will be fascinating to see what Peters says about this correction.
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ReplyDeleteThird, and most importantly, I think, we’re reliving the early 1970’s. After Vatican II, a whole host of darkness descended upon the Church in the form of modernist functionality. By that, I mean the changes in the Mass that were never part of the VII docs, Bugnini and all his changes, etc. I’ve read most of the docs of VII, and they’re all very clear. It was the interpretation of them that was off.
The same is happening now, but in this case the document isn’t clear. So we have multiple interpretations scattered all over the planet; an adulterer in Germany may receive communion, but step across the border into Poland and he may not. And how have these situations come about? Francis. Like it or not, Francis has allowed and encouraged these interpretations. So much so that it’s caused strife within my own family.
From my point of view, it’s not the document it’s the interpretation. And if it’s the interpretation, it’s very hard to pin the phrase “magisterial” on it.
That’s my take on things as of today. It’s subject to change without warning, and it’s worth every cent you paid for it.
And I think MightyRighty is largely correct in that this is all on Francis. It’s up to him to dig us out of this. But consider: what if Francis can’t dig us out (he doesn’t seem to have the temperament or desire to do so), and this lingers. If there really is a prophecy for a papal election this year, then it makes perfect sense. Francis can’t fix the mess, so he passes from the scene, only to be replaced by a new pope that can quickly resolve everything, and renew the Church. Would such a pope not be “angelic” in many respects.
And Emmett – Why apply the Joshua prophecy to just this one man? There have been 266 popes, and there will be at least one more. Why apply the soiled garment prophecy to just this one? “Tu es Petrus.” Not “you are one of many peters” (what would that be?: e pluribus unum Petri, or e pluribus unus Petri? I studied Latin many times over many years, and I swear I’ve forgotten more than I ever knew.)
At any rate, and don’t take this as being offered too harshly: The idea that the darkness has won over Christ’s promise is EXACTLY what Satan wants you to think just about now.
Repeat this when you feel discouraged or downhearted about this whole subject:
Vade retro Satana! Nunquam suade mihi vana. Sunt mala quae libas. Ipse venena bibas
(Begone Satan! Tempt me not with your vanities. What you offer me is evil. Drink the poison yourself)
Crux sacra sit mihi lux. Non Draco sit mihi dux.
(May the Holy Cross be my light. Let not the Dragon be my guide)
These are inscribed on the face of the Saint Benedict Medal (which is sometimes referred to as the “devil chaser”).
Now is not the time to let the Darkness guide or influence your thoughts, people. Stay strong. Stay sharp. Keep focused and on your guard, and never leave your weapons behind when in battle (my rosary is with me all the time. I have holy water in my house, as well as blessed salt. I have prayer books in my car and my office.)
Many, many people are reading into what this "correction"actually says. Please read it and take it at face value. It was written (obviously) very purposefully using exacting language to clearly state the writers intentions. They are not ignorant individuals nor are they speaking in terms that require interpretation. They are very clear and precise. What they say is being horribly misrepresented by people who are reading into what was stated. Sad. Very sad.
ReplyDeleteExactamundo!! Well said, notice none of the usual attack dogs spadaro,ivereigh, martin etc can actually refute anything said in the correction? Just the usual faux intellectual thuggery of attacking the people involved and ignoring the respectful truth stated in the document itself.
DeleteEmmett, given the gravity of this Filial Correction, would you mind doing a post wherein you elaborate on how it fits in with the prophecy of Leo XIII?
ReplyDeleteIf we end up in a situation where Francis gets deposed and another Pope elected, there will be mass confusion, because some will claim Francis is the true Pope and anyone else is not valid. Since everything that goes on once those conclave doors are closed is the most closely-guarded secret in the world, how do we know if the election is valid or not? Also, if that does happen, how will we know if the Sacraments in any particular parish are valid?
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The confusion is bad enough right now, since what the mainstream media report has so much "spin" on it, you can't tell what the actual story is. For now, I'm focusing on Cardinal Burke's commentary; so far, everything he's said has been genuinely, faithfully Catholic. Francis' papacy has been so muddled by all the "he said, he said" arguments out there, I don't really know what to think about him. Given the whole uproar over Amoris Laetitia, *something* is certainly going on.
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Also given things I've said in the past about the Modernist, even allegedly Satanic, element in the Vatican exerting some form of control over what the Pope says and does, it's entirely possible that the Pope's lack of response is because he's somehow being prevented from responding. I know that sounds like a conspiracy theory, and maybe it is; but I also can't help wondering, more frequently than I like, if Father Benedict wasn't forced to abdicate by something more than just his own ill health. Maybe I'm reading more into things than is really there; I do admit to having been very concerned when lightning struck the dome of St. Peter's the day Pope Benedict XVI announced his retirement, and again very shortly after Pope Francis assumed the papacy.
JMC
RC, I understand your frustration. I don't agree with many things Pope Francis says and does in a private capacity, but he certainly has my submission of will and intellect when it comes to the Magisterium. Being from where we are, I've seen enough attacks upon the pope to last me a lifetime.
ReplyDeleteIf you can outline for me where it says in approved prophecies where we will have a heretical pope, I would like to see them quoted. What I have seen in this "correction" is the first stage of the path to schism, which will become even more pronounced when the next phase of this plan is completed. They are following the "depose the heretical pope" plan to the letter. What will happen when they declare Pope Francis a formal heretic? They will say that he has automatically excommunicated himself, and then form their own "conclave" to install an antipope. The battle lines have been drawn here.
With the greatest of respect Emmett you haven't really adressed any of the questions I raised in my post to you?
DeleteYou talk about submitting to magesterium but who is allowing his own document to be interpreted heretically? Emmett why can a person in mortal sin receive in certain countries but not others? Is rhis the universality of Catholic teaching?? Why wont he exercise his office correctly and with fidelity?? As far as i can see he is failing to denounce heretical interpretation? Why doesn't he answer the dubia or the respectful truthful correction? Emmett it was he himself who said he might be the man who leads the church into schism!!!! Are these faithful catholics the ones creating schism by asking him to ratify the Faith?? Seriously?? Is it sacrilege to receive in mortal sin? Is adultery a mortal sin or not? In Argentina malta and germany apparently not!! Yet in Poland it is!!! Who is right Emmett? People faithful to the teachings of Christ or people like marx, baldessiri, coccopalmerio heal me with your mouth tucho??? We are duty bound to resist error our conscience dictates this!! Objective truth is from God, is Christ wrong in denouncing adultery or not Emmett? Please enlighten me I may have been wrong my whole life regarding church teaching?? I reiterate who is right? Francis or Christ? As regard to prophecy I most certainly bow to your excellent knowledge and research on the matter, thus i am more than open to instruction on the matter but isnt it the case we arent duty bound in following? I merely mention in passing i believe it was akita?? About heresy in the church?? La salette maybe? Or anne catherine emmerich? I know not conclusively so i appeal to your expertise in the matter! Did Our lady of Good success elaborate on the corruption of marriage in our times? I genuinely ask not having the expertise you possess. Anyway rant over mo chara 😉 May Our Lady of Knock pray for you and guide your most excellent works.
I think we pray and do penance not to be spared, but for the repentance/conversion of sinners. What's the use of being spared if no one repents? Nineveh was spared because of repentance.
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ReplyDeleteDidn't our Lady of Revelation say to Bruno something a Pope who would teach error??? I don't remember which Part of the youtube videos it was in, but I think it was in one of the earlier Parts. (I will have to go back and listen, but I just don't have the time at the moment.)
Emmett, the correctors have said in the document that they are not accusing the pope of formal heresy, nor even of material heresy. They are identifying statements that appear to be materially heretical and acts and statements that appear to endorse the heretical understanding of those statements, thus of promoting heresy. They are asking for a correction of these statements and remarks. They know they are not judges of formal heresy, but can and should judge statements that appear heretical. AL has many heretical statements, on their face, side by side with statements that contradict. But the overarching framework of AL, and the footnotes, and his subsequent statements and acts, endorse the heretical aspects. So correction/clarification is needed - desperately.
ReplyDeleteAlso, your premises are incorrect. A pope is not excommunicated automatically by material heresy. Second, even if he were to be automatically excommunicated by some act, excommunication does not mean removal from office or invalidity of any of his acts. The only thing that would, according to ancient but debated theological opinion, result in the automatic un-poping of a pope (or in the revelation that he was never pope) is the situation in which he would solemnly officially renounce some aspect of official Catholic teaching.
"As such, the Catholic Church teaches that the pope is incapable of teaching heresy as part of his ordinary non-infallible Magisterium."
ReplyDeleteThis is false. And self-contradictory. The Catholic Church teaches that the pope is protected from teaching error as part of his extraordinary magisterium, when he solemnly and officially declares, and says he is so declaring.
As for the canon, it means that we should respect and give religious assent (as distinguished from the assent of divine faith) to the ordinary magisterium of the pope on faith and morals. That means be polite and submit. And that was new with Vat II and variously interpreted. But when the scandal is widespread and the error proclaimed, we have a duty to speak out. By the way, we h ave the same duty to our local bishop, and yet we should never submit to many of the heresies espoused by bishops since 1970 (yes on artificial contraception, and many other issues).
ReplyDeleteI assume Emmerich is approved Prophecy? So
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“I had another vision of the great tribulation. It seems to me that a concession was demanded from the clergy which could not be granted. I saw many older priests, especially one, who wept bitterly. A few younger ones were also weeping. But others, and the lukewarm among them, readily did what was demanded. It was as if people were splitting into two camps…”
I dont think theres any equivocation in that statement.
This is indeed a sad situation. I only hope it can be resolved. And quickly.
A very apt yet bitterly sad example. To my own worthless mind and opionion a spiritual chastisment is remarkably more painful than a physical one, i am in absolute turmoil over this and it hurts like hell this whole situation, but i want my church built on rock not quicksand. Once this sacrelige is accepted and promoted the whole house could tumble like a deck of cards, if who can receive in mortal sin on account of adultery surely by reason any mortal sin is permissable to profane the Most Holy Eucharist? Is this the abomination of desolation? The holy father could end all this bitterness and division by simply upholding the teaching of the church so why oh why does he permit this?? This is absolutely heartbreaking and maybe i risk serious spiritual damage but i am on the precipice of believing him to be an anti pope😞 day in day out wrestling with my own faculties but always unable to accept what he is promulating,heartbreaking absolutely heartbreaking.
Delete"If you can outline for me where it says in approved prophecies where we will have a heretical pope, I would like to see them quoted."
ReplyDeletePerhaps that's part of the Third Secret that we've never sorted out. Who knows. But private revelation DOES NOT trump Christ's own assurance that the gates of hell would not prevail.
"What I have seen in this "correction" is the first stage of the path to schism, which will become even more pronounced when the next phase of this plan is completed."
No, you have not. What you have seen is a path with many branches ahead of us. Schism is only one potentiality right now. If there are 50 branches of this path down which we may stumble, only a few have schism as their logical and inevitable outcomes. There are a great many different possible outcomes ahead of us right now, none of which has a clear and obvious path at this moment.
You asked us to provide you with an approved revelation saying that there will be a heretical pope. You know the answer to that request as well as anyone on earth. But you did not answer my question about the application of the Joshua prophecy to just this one man. Why, with 266 popes before him, does this have to necessarily be compressed into a single man? Why can't this prophecy relate to this man, and the one that comes after him? There are plenty of popes throughout history that have given the papacy dirty garments, but it would only take one to clean-up the whole mess.
Shortly before he died in 1226, St. Francis of Assisi called together the members of his order and warned them of great tribulations that would befall the Church in the future, saying:
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Act bravely, my Brethren; take courage, and trust in the Lord. The time is fast approaching in which there will be great trials and afflictions; perplexities and dissensions, both spiritual and temporal, will abound; the charity of many will grow cold, and the malice of the wicked will increase.
The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death.
Then scandals will be multiplied, our Order will be divided, and many others will be entirely destroyed, because they will consent to error instead of opposing it.
There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God.
Then our Rule and manner of life will be violently opposed by some, and terrible trials will come upon us. Those who are found faithful will receive the crown of life; but woe to those who, trusting solely in their Order, shall fall into tepidity, for they will not be able to support the temptations permitted for the proving of the elect.
Those who preserve their fervour and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. But the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head [Jesus Christ], these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish [physically] rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy.
Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer.
(Works of the Seraphic Father St. Francis Of Assisi [London: R. Washbourne, 1882], pp. 248-250; underlining and paragraph breaks added.)
https://novusordowatch.org/saint-francis-assisi-prophecy-destroyer/
Akita stated on 10/13/73:
ReplyDelete"The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops."
Clearly there will be turmoil within the Church. That does NOT mean the gates of hell have conquered.
The Mystical Body of Christ is destined to suffer just as the human body of Christ suffered. That means the Church will experience everything Christ experienced, including crucifixion and a point in time when it will appear to be dead. When it will appear as though the devil has won. The Church has suffered, is suffering, and will suffer.
You will recall that the Church has had not only false popes in the past but popes who lived horribly immoral lives....i.e.: taught sin by their example. That does not mean the gates of hell conquered. It also does not mean that Pope Francis is either a false pope or one who is living an immoral life or teaching heresy. In fact the "correction" claims Pope Francis is simply not striking down blatant misinterpretations of the perennial truth of the Church. It does not claim he is teaching heresy. It does not claim he is not really the Pope. In FACT it claims the exact opposite, by the overly generous wording addressing "His Holiness" and even asking his Apostolic Blessing.
I am very sorry Mr. O'Regan but I believe you are horribly incorrect in your assumptions and even exaggerations regarding this "correction."
Emmett, in your post http://unveilingtheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2011/11/fr-gobbi-on-mark-of-beast.html you mention some of the locutions to Father Gobbi regarding some of the symbolism in the Book of Revelation. Yet you do not address some of the locutions where Our Lady stated very specifically that ecclesiastical freemasonry will ravage the Church and that one of the beasts represents freemasonry in the highest parts of the Church. She told Father Gobbi that the third indication of the number 666 was freemasonry infiltrated to the highest levels of the Church. I think that to fully unveil the apocalypse, we need to accept that apostasy is ravaging the Church right not...why search for it in some time to come, it is happening right now. Our Lady in Her loving kindness gave Father Gobbi these messages for the priests so that they would could guide us in these times of confusion.
ReplyDeleteSince all of this came to light right after the Rev 12 Sign in the sky, can't we just go back to Revelation and trust that the earth will come to the woman's rescue "by opening its mouth and swallowing the flood which the dragon spewed out of its mouth"?
ReplyDelete" This is absolutely heartbreaking and maybe i risk serious spiritual damage but i am on the precipice of believing him to be an anti pope."
ReplyDeleteNO! Do not give in to this temptation. See the Latin prayers I posted above. This is precisely what the devil wants.
I'm no fan of Francis. He's caused a great deal of harm, even within my own family. But he was canonically elected (as best we can tell and with the lavender mafia's influence), and he is in some way necessary to the current situation. I honestly believe that he's laying the groundwork for the Angelic Pope, and thereby the restoration of the Church. We may be in the darkest hour of the great apostasy and the Church's Calvary, but now is not the time to give into the Darkness.
Stand fast. Hold the line. This will all work out in the end.
I agree with you Mark. It's a total given that the Church will be restored, so I'm not worried.
ReplyDeleteAs the Guajataca Dam still remains a threat, what if something miraculous happens to save the Puerto Rican people from further devastation? And in turn signaling from the heavens that the Restoration of the Church is around the corner? Wouldn't that be incredible?! I think Emmett is right to keep an eye on that situation.
I gotta say- I feel so overloaded with who and what to pray for right now. I can't even wrap my head around all the pain these people are experiencing right now (those who have been affected by the recent hurricanes and earthquakes). I wanna give them as many prayers as possible..and money of course!
ReplyDeleteThe Jesuits - The Society of Jesus and the Betrayal to Roman Catholic Church - Fr Malachi Martin, ex-Jesuit
"Not a book to read if you want to maintain respect for the Jesuits."
https://www.slideshare.net/EboBlack/the-jesuits-the-society-of-jesus-and-the-betrayal-to-roman-catholic-church-malachi-martin
The firt 30 pages or so may be helpful to understand the changes (I would say the revolution) we are currently observing in the Church.
G.
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ReplyDeleteMark- the question, though, is was he indeed validly elected?
ReplyDeleteIf His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI did not resign - as per canon 188, which governs among other things the succession of the papacy - and given His Holiness' own words and actions before and after the resignation, and the text of the resignation itself, is not at least possible that Benedict did not resign?
- The day before his resignation, he speaks of being "always and forever" dedicated to the whole church; and, as "[his] life is not his own," and that "I will remain in a special way within the enclosure of St. Peter."
- In the latin text of his actual resignation, he draws a distinction between the "office" and the "ministry" of St. Peter, and his very carefully chosen words indicate he has resigned the "ministry" but not the "office".
- He continues to wear the white papal vestments and holds the Fisherman's ring, which he should not if he is no longer the pope.
- His closest companions have spoken of his desire to create a "collegial" office with an "active" and a "contemplative" papacy.
This desire to bifurcate the office of the papacy is Substantial Error, and makes his resignation invalid under Canon 188.
Furthermore, Canon 188 makes a resignation invalid if it is performed out of coercion, such as blackmail, or simony. And Benedict XVI took actions during his reign that make the existence of blackmail of some kind highly probable. Did he not visit the tomb of Pope Celestine, and ask us to pray for him, that he may not "flee for fear of the wolves?" And didn't he resign in highly suspicious circumstances?
So, Benedict's "abdication" was suspicious, and likely invalid, in two different ways - which means, if this is the case, 'Francis'/Antipope Bergoglio was never our Pope... and never had the charism of infallibility.
And that, I find, makes far more sense of 'Francis'' actions and words than any other interpretation; especially his novelties and innovations. And what worse chastisement could be visited upon the Church as She follows Christ to his passion than an apostasy led by a pretender to the chair of Peter?
Emmett
ReplyDeleteWould love some of your input and reflections on the confusion in the Church at this time which has now reached crisis levels. Not an immediate reflection but one completed after a time of prayer and study.
Your insights would be most helpful to many, many people/
At least think about it?
Bob
Hi Conor,
ReplyDelete"Mark- the question, though, is was he indeed validly elected?"
Even given your rundown of circumstances, I think we have to assume that all was valid until we're given some absolutely irrefutable evidence to the contrary. And honestly, I don't know that it's really relevant from a pew-sitter's point of view relative to where we are in the timeline of the apocalypse.
Given Christ's promise that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church, even if Bergoglio were not licitly elected, he's still the man on the chair when it comes to our current situation relative to the apocalypse. That makes Bergoglio/Francis part of the crucifixion of Holy Mother Church. And as unpleasant as things are now, the depths to which the Church's Passion might sink are probably not yet reached.
So even if I grant the idea that he wasn't validly elected, I can't escape the greater view that he is part of the process and will eventually be replaced. And if my guess is right, then he'll be replaced by the true angelic pope who will restore the Church from this horrendous mess.
Furthermore, if I'm right, we won't have to wait long to find out.
But ultimately, this is part of the Passion of the Church - Bugnini, the liturgical changes after VII, the music ministries and clown Masses, the clouds of EMs, the suppression of Latin and chant, the sex abuse scandal, the collapse of vocations - it's all part-and-parcel of the same thing. This is what the Passion of the Church looks like.
St. John of the Cross said that, to get through the Dark Night of the Soul, sometimes perseverance is the most important thing. We force our way through the muck, in the hope of Christ's promise. It's the only way.
Conor, RC, Emmett - you've been chosen to live in a particular moment of human history. Perhaps this is the most important moment in ALL of human history. We absolutely MUST NOT give in to any form of despair now. That's exactly what Satan wants. Fidelity to Christ's promise is more important right now than who sits on Peter's Throne. Who knows, in a year we may all be SSPX, and that may be the remnant. But that's not today. That's not right now. Let the future worry about itself.
Mark - Well said. I merely do not want others to lose faith WHEN this antipope begins teaching formal and not merely material heresy from his usurped chair, and to be ready and awake when the desecrations of the Mass continue to increase spurred on by a sacreligious Rome.
ReplyDeleteI'm not going to be able to answer everyone right away. I'm really busy with work, and don't have much time to deal with this.
ReplyDelete1) I can guarantee that there are no approved private revelations which state that we will have an heretical pope. Neither Scripture nor Tradition allows for this either.
2) As to the recently unearthed private revelation given to Bruno Cornacchiola, what he begins with is "God will never allow this to happen" and then he is shown a vision of a pope denying "all truths of the faith". So, what he was really saying was, God will never allow this to happen.
3) I have categorically debunked the bogus destroyer pope prophecy attributed to St. Francis of Assisi in my CTS booklet The End of the World: What Catholics Believe. Steve Skojec covered this material in 1P5.
https://onepeterfive.com/if-francis-is-an-antipope-we-cant-know-it-yet/
Emmett, I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. We've already had a Pope who held to material heresy. Pope John XXII taught publicly, in his sermons, that the souls of the Just do not receive the Beatific Vision until the Last Judgment. He published a book on it and also taught it publicly in his sermons.
ReplyDeleteThe dogma of Papal Infallibility doesn't guarantee that the Pope will never teach heresy. It says he will never be able to *dogmatically declare* a heresy. Very different things.
As far as Bruno's vision, the initial "may God never allow this to happen" was his desire that God wouldn't allow it to happen. The actual vision that God gave him WAS a Pope teaching heresies. Why would God give a vision warning about something that can't happen? This is the same kind of interpretation that Calvinists use when reading the Bible's words about Christian's apostatizing. God doesn't give warnings about impossible things.
I'm not saying Pope Francis IS an antipope or IS teaching heresy. But it actually does line up with Bruno and Maria Apparitions warning that Satan's smoke would rise to the TOP, and no dogma has ever said a Pope can't teach a heresy in a non-infallible document.
--KP
Just a thought. I've always wondered why Pope Francis is identified by St. Malachy's prophecies as Peter the Roman. St. Peter denied our Lord three times outside the courtyard of the high priest. Those who issued the filial correction to St. Francis, our current Peter, have accused him of propagating heretical positions in three areas: concerning marriage, moral life and the sacraments. Perhaps there is some kind of analogy here between Pope Francis and St. Peter. In the end we know that, despite the failings of St. Peter, he went on to become a martyr for Christ. Perhaps this will also befall Pope Francis. Who knows? I firmly believe what Our Lord says--that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. It's a mystery. We just need faith to follow what our Lady of Fatima says, that is, pray and do penance. Her Immaculate Heart will Triumph in the end. And some saint somewhere said that even if there is only one catholic left--the catholic church would still exist. St.Padre Pio said--pray and don't worry. I put everything in Our Lady's hands.
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John XXII did not teach material heresy since the subject was being debated at the time. He made clear is was his private opinion. Only in his successor's reign did it become a magisterial teaching. No Pope has ever been a heretic.That is a fact.
ReplyDeletePope John XXII taught it in a book and referenced that book in his sermons as Pope.
ReplyDeleteAnd no, it wasn't being debated at the time. The Magisterium had always taught that the saints currently in Heaven hear the prayers of the faithful.
Pope John XXII was a material heretic. He taught heresy. He never made it DOGMATIC. That's the whole point of Papal Infallibility.
Papal infallibility shouldn't be a form of Papal idolatry. The Pope can teach error, but God will prevent him from binding the whole Church from accepting error.
--KEP
A few things:
ReplyDeletePeople need to calm down.
Bruno saw the Pope in a dream of his - but he had many dreams, many of which he wrote in his book but these were NOT NOT NOT prophecies from Our Lady. Often his dreams expressed his personal fears and nothing more - many of his dreams did not and will not occur; they often had bloodshed and murders occurring, especially at St. Peters.
No Pope has been a heretic - and Pope Francis is not a heretic. The document does not accuse Francis of being a heretic, nor of changing doctrine.
What is surreal is that this is happening, although in truth Our Lady explicitly warned of this at Akita when she spoke of cardinals against cardinals, bishops against bishops.
We should then understand that we are very likely at the point of the rest of her message at Akita:
"In order that the world might know His anger, the Heavenly Father is preparing to inflict a great chastisement on all mankind. With My Son, I have intervened so many times to appease the wrath of the Father. I have prevented the coming of calamities by offering Him the sufferings of the Son on the Cross, His Precious Blood, and beloved souls who console Him and form a cohort of victim souls....
If men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the Bishops and the priests." Our Lady of Akita, October 13, 1973
We now are witnessing a string of calamities.
Be ready.
God bless,
Greg J Cring
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Very interesting... the life of Pope St Marcellinus & how he performed an act of apostasy. The Father then compares that to the current situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpXYlToccgc
"... during Diocletian’s persecution Marcellinus was called upon to sacrifice, and offered incense to idols, but that, repenting shortly afterwards, he confessed the faith of Christ and suffered martyrdom with several companions."
Pray for the Pope!
G.
People here aren't recogmizing the difference between material and formal heresy, and aren't differentiating between a Pope's ordinary and extraordinary teaching authority.
ReplyDeleteYes, Pope John XXII was a material heretic. He was held accountable for it and warned that if he tried to define it infallibly that God would strike him dead before he could. The Cardinals who opposed him admitted his teaching was wrong, but differentiated between Pope John XXII's dogmatic definitions and his non-dogmatic teaching.
Same thing applies here. Popes have been in material heresy before. Vatican I said nothing against that.
The signatories of the filial correction accused Pope Francis of propagating material heresy. They never accused him of being a formal heretic.
The prophecies said the smoke of Satan would rise to the TOP of the Church. A provincial bishop or bishops conference is not the TOP of the Church. The Cardinals are not the TOP of the Church.
Pope Francis is looking for ways to extend Divine Mercy to everyone. He had the Year of Mercy in 2016.
ReplyDeleteThe Father desires that none of His children are lost.
Jesus told St. Faustina to know God by His attributes, and He then said His greatest attribute is Mercy.
Why is the Holy Father looking for ways to extend God's Mercy, to show so much mercy to everyone at this time? What does the Holy Father know? The Holy Spirit is inspiring him in these things - why?
God bless,
Greg J Cring
Pope Francis is looking for ways to extend Divine Mercy to everyone. He had the Year of Mercy in 2016.
ReplyDeleteThe Father desires that none of His children are lost.
Jesus told St. Faustina to know God by His attributes, and He then said His greatest attribute is Mercy.
Why is the Holy Father looking for ways to extend God's Mercy, to show so much mercy to everyone at this time? What does the Holy Father know? The Holy Spirit is inspiring him in these things - why?
God bless,
Greg J Cring
The problem is that FrancisMercy is not Real Mercy.
ReplyDeleteFrancisMercy says - Go and sin however much you want, I don't care. God will certainly forgive you!
Real Mercy says - I died for your sin because I love you. Go and sin no more; you are forgiven.
Rachmaninov, if Pope Francis believes that damned souls are annihilated rather than separated from God forever in eternal hell fire, that is a very peculiar stance for the Vicar of Christ to have.
ReplyDeleteFrancis is a heretic. Anyone who accepts Amoris Laetitia doesn't know the faith. Pope Benedict XVI is the bishop in white who is martyred. The correction was publicly realeased right after the great sign of September 23. Be ready for the schism mentioned at Akita.
ReplyDeleteWow... I'm with Emmett on the this this one, and am shocked at how many folks are accusing the Holy Father of heresy and/or being an anti-pope on little or no evidence.
ReplyDeleteThis saddens me more than all the natural disasters and other discord in the world right now... I think many of you are jumping the gun on these most serious of accusations. :(
While there is a lot of speculation going on about whether or not Pope Francis was canonically elected, and about whether or not Pope Benedict's resignation was valid, the fact of the matter is, it's ONLY speculation. Until we know for absolutely certain, in all charity we must allow them the benefit of the doubt. Yes, it's entirely possible Pope Benedict was coerced, but we don't KNOW; we only suspect.
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And to answer my own question about which way to go if the worst does happen, I turn to some advice Fr. John O'Connor once gave me: Keep praying to Our Lady. She will never lead you astray.
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As bad as things seem right now, they've all happened before. The Church came through it then, and she'll come through it this time, too. Another gem from Fr. O'Connor: No matter what happens, always remember that God is in charge. He will only allow things to go so far; that's why we are assured the time is to be shortened, to prevent all of us from being lost.
Grab onto one of Mother Mary's apron strings, so to speak, and hang on as tightly as you can.
If I am correct in that this "Filial Correction"/accusation of material heresy against Pope Francis is part of the prophecy of Zech 3, then we can fully expect that St. Michael will quickly issue a strong rebuke of Satan's work, as we now approach the Feast of the Holy Archangels.
ReplyDelete"Then he showed me the high priest Joshua standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him. And the Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, O Satan!" (Zech 3:1-2)
Too many people are reaching for stones to throw at the Holy Father. We are seeing the person of the Holy Father being attacked like we have never witnessed before in history - all being initiated by the Doctors of the Law. Do you not see this was part of St. Jacinta's vision? The central theme of St. Jacinta's vision - that of throwing of stones, is found repeatedly in the Gospels as threats issuing from the Doctors of the Law and the Pharisees against the person of Christ (represented on earth by His Vicar), and also at the adulterous woman.
An absolutely astonishing position you take there, you are equating people who love and wish to protect the teachings of Christ over blind idolatry to a man complicit in silence of advocating the outright rejection of the sixth commandment of God, the actual words of Christ himself on adultery and the advocation of profaning The Body,Blood,Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ!!!!! You will find that Christ forgave the adulterous woman with the express command to go and Sin NO MORE.
DeleteBergolio is a man, Christ is God "the disciple is not greater than the master" I know join the ranks of people who actually profess the truth of Catholicism in being agents of lucifer in your book, it is Lucifer who sows confusion and subeterfuge twisting and Apeing Gods law, yeah lets just let our conscience overide truth and reason and sin boldly after all the german Argentinean and maltese bishops say its a ok and papa bergolio refuses to teach, St Athanasius pray for us all
Hello emmett...for real...pope francis makes me feel confused...but this point of view foi gave...its really beautiful....I know that Fracis is cleanning the h ouse um some way se dont understand....bless
DeleteIt'll be interesting to see how the Pope responds. The best thing, of course, would be for him to answer his critics - which he should have done ages ago - and put this talk of heresy to bed. If I was a Machieavellian advisor though (of which, I'm sure, there are plenty in Rome) I might suggest to him that the time is ripe for a major Vatican diplomatic initiative re North Korea. That, among other things, would make the authors of the correction look quite small and legalistic.
ReplyDeleteThe best thing,of course,would be for him to answer the faithful!! I mean God forbid a pope should uphold authentic Catholic teaching. I think he is more than fine for machieavellian advisors at the moment God forbid he surrounds himself with any more eejits who tell us for example that 2+2 =5,Jesus wept. As for playing the peacemaker theres no way given the stinking marxism pervading all levels of the vatican that he could possibly be an honest broker with rocket man and trump
DeleteFor what my humble opinion is worth:
ReplyDeleteMr. O'Regan, with regards to this filial correction, I totally disagree with you, yet I am highly impressed that you allow this conversation to go on - on your blog. You need not allow this and so I have tremendous respect for you, even while disagreeing with you.
Having said that, I do NOT believe Pope Francis is a heretic. Nor do I think that he was not validly elevated to the See of Peter. Additionally, genuine or not, I have always thought that Pope Francis as "Peter the Roman" was in relation to Pope Francis being a weak man just as St. Peter was in denying Christ three times. I do not believe Pope Francis is a heretic but simply a weak leader. I believe, and certainly hope, he will come around as St. Peter did and answer the questions being addressed to him as is the obligation of every Bishop everywhere. It is a Bishops job (even more so for the Bishop of Rome), to TEACH, and confirm the brethren in the faith. Silence in addressing legitimate questions or doubts is complicity, or simply fear. Pope Francis should not remain silent in these matters.
Jesus was not silent in confronting the Scribes and Pharisees. Pope Francis must discontinue this silence and put an end to this struggle that is dividing the Church. The dubia, and this filial correction are both legitimately placed before the Holy Father and it is his obligation to answer them.
In my humble opinion.
On a slightly different note...
ReplyDeleteHere are some of the upcoming feast days between now and the 13th:
29SEP - The Dedication of St. Michael the Archangel*
30SEP - St. Jerome
02OCT - The Holy Guardian Angels
03OCT - St. Therese of Lisieux
04OCT - St. Francis of Assisi
05OCT - Sts Maurus and Placid / St. Faustina
06OCT - St Bruno
07OCT - The Blessed Virgin Mary of the Rosary**
08OCT to 13OCT - Feria
* This has a 1st Vespers in my Diurnal, so the feast begins with vespers of the 28th.
** This has an optional 1st Vespers, and may begin with vespers of the 6th.
This is an interesting collection, to say the least.
All taken from the Monastic Diurnal, with the exception of St. Faustina. She hadn't been canonized at the time the original Diurnal was written.
If Emmett's theory is correct, could the next stage of the "stigmatization" be implemented on the feast day of St. Francis of Assisi???
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ReplyDelete"Too many people are reaching for stones to throw at the Holy Father. We are seeing the person of the Holy Father being attacked like we have never witnessed before in history"
That could easely aplly to Pope Benedict XVI as well, merciless attacked by secular media, the left and progressive clergy and lay people for being too "rigid". Pope Francis, on the other hand, is extremely favoured by this later groups, besides, his allies are launching a major offensive against moral law (Fr James Martin, Cardinal Culpich, Bishop McElroy etc), but also against anyone questioning AL premisses...
Though we should always stand by the Pope and pray for him in any circunstance, as said before, it is getting very hard to tell who are the good guys these days.
G.
I too am torn on this matter.
ReplyDeleteI had very high hopes for Francis but have been surprised by his behaviour.
Nonetheless, he is Pope and we are subject to his rule.
I mentioned earlier that Francis should have answered his critics, I should better have written that the 'criticisms should have be answered'.
It is understandable that the Pontiff cannot directly address every lunatic with a gripe, but this could have been done by a civil servant or brief PR statement.
Instead it has been allowed to rumble on and, like a snowball thundering down a hill, has taken on all sorts of debris that now must be addressed too. Legitimate Popes/Papacies, Lavender Mafias, Heresies, Conspiracies, Sacked Philosophers, Protestant Theology are all now attached to this matter.
If nothing else this has shown Francis to be pretty bad at managing his Church on a day-to-day basis.
Regardless of the truth of the intent and allegations made, the split in the Church between geographical elements is all too real and Francis has done nothing to address this. While I'm sympathetic with Emmetts view of the Pope under attack, I'm also acutely aware that the Church is not an institution for helping people whos feelings have been hurt; Surely, sinners must move to Communion with the Church, not the other way around?
G at 14.28 I would venture to speculate its getting increasingly easy to tell the good guys these days, although I am in direct opposition to Emmett on this. Lets have a look at some of the main players in each camp so to speak, i advise googling each for a true flavour.
ReplyDeleteIn the bergolian wing as it were and for charitys sake il restrain myself as best i can.... Cardinal Marx,according to the good cardinal the cash rich german church is under no obligation to follow rome!! Yep smells like a lutheran, acts like a lutheran..... Cardinal Walter Kasper, big on mercy is this good cardinal but not too hot around journalists at synods! Apparently our African brethren in Christ are irrelevant and won't tell us what to do!! Very merciful your eminence.... Cardinal Baldessiri a shrewd operator expert in manipulating synods sneaking in the odd relatio and ignoring the fact along with his boss that majority wasnt reached.... Next in this vertiable gallery of Catholicity step forward. Cardinal Danieels google his supression of child abuse victims and the filth propagated in belgium masquerading as sex education not to mention the arrogance of openly admitting the existence of the benevolent St Gallen mafia, yep lets work like devils to oust Benedict much too orthodox and openly admit to the world conspiring pre conclave to elect bergolio, in direct contravention of the rules of conclave..... Yes a noble group so far buts lets introduce the reputed yes i stress alledged writer of AL himself, drum roll please.... Archbishop Tucho "heal me with your mouth, the art of kissing" Fernandez! A word of warning do not attempt reading his mighty tome until you have fully digested your dinner. James martin sj! Im not even going there!! Antonio Spadaro sj, 2+2=5!! Only one thing to say to logic as superlative as that, Jesus wept. Cardinal Coccopalmerio boss of monsignor Luigi capozza, google what luigi was up to in vatican buildings. Austin Ivereigh the greatest author known to man, all round humble good egg, see Danieels and st gallen for ivereighs incredible stupidity in revealing their impious plotting. I know I know its a long hard read so we will wrap up with The german,Argentinean and maltese bishops conferences purveyors of sacrilege and staunch opponents of the sixth commandment, Monsignor Ricci google him, Please feel free to add to this esteemed gallery of ultra bergolians and form your own opinion on who exactly St Michael might be rebuking eh Emmett??
In the interests of fairness lets look at the legion of lucifer attacking our poor peronista, sorry I meant Pope..... The dubia cardinals,hmmm struggling here only crime I can detect is fidelity to the teaching of the Catholic church, the signatories of the correction, again struggling but in the intersts of equanimity lets just call them all rigid fundamentalists, pharisees, doctors of the law, mad trads etc, how very dare they adhere to the commandments and the temerity to agree with Christ on divorce! Scandalous!! I'll lump the polish bishops in among these rogues, hmmmm no contest I think on balance Ive talked myself round!! The bergolian camp are fine,moral upstanding men, zealous in their fidelity to the church! Emmett your right after all, St Michael will surely smit these vicious touts attacking and questioning Our supreme leader, guardian of the faith His Holiness Pope Francis. Viva Franco Rey!!! I know this is an angry post severly lacking in charity, and although it may not seem like it I have great respect for Emmett and his works, seems indeed like Christ has not come to bring peace but to spread the sword! Father against son,brother aginst brother.
ReplyDeleteThe Horror!, Marcelo González, of Panorama Católico Internacional, Argentina (March, 2013).
"The Horror!
Of all the unthinkable candidates, Jorge Mario Bergoglio is perhaps the worst. Not because he openly professes doctrines against the faith and morals, but because, judging from his work as Archbishop of Buenos Aires, faith and morals seem to have been irrelevant to him.
A sworn enemy of the Traditional Mass, he has only allowed imitations of it in the hands of declared enemies of the ancient liturgy. He has persecuted every single priest who made an effort to wear a cassock, preach with firmness, or that was simply interested in Summorum Pontificum.
Famous for his inconsistency (at times, for the unintelligibility of his addresses and homilies), accustomed to the use of coarse, demagogical, and ambiguous expressions, it cannot be said that his magisterium is heterodox, but rather non-existent for how confusing it is.
His entourage in the Buenos Aires Curia, with the exception of a few clerics, has not been characterized by the virtue of their actions. Several are under grave suspicion of moral misbehavior.
He has not missed any occasion for holding acts in which he lent his Cathedral to Protestants, Muslims, Jews, and even to partisan groups in the name of an impossible and unnecessary interreligious dialogue. He is famous for his meetings with Protestants in the Luna Park arena where, together with preacher of the Pontifical House, Raniero Cantalamessa, he was "blessed" by Protestant ministers, in a common act of worship in which he, in practice, accepted the validity of the "powers" of the TV-pastors.
This election is incomprehensible: he is not a polyglot, he has no Curial experience, he does not shine for his sanctity, he is loose in doctrine and liturgy, he has not fought against abortion and only very weakly against homosexual "marriage" [approved with practically no opposition from the episcopate], he has no manners to honor the Pontifical Throne. He has never fought for anything else than to remain in positions of power.
It really cannot be what Benedict wanted for the Church. And he does not seem to have any of the conditions required to continue his work.
May God help His Church. One can never dismiss, as humanly hard as it may seem, the possibility of a conversion... and, nonetheless, the future terrifies us."
Four years later, one can tell that Bergoglio has not changed at all during his papacy.
Still, I firmly believe that we are bound to show respect for the petrine office. Unfortunately, many of us, me included, have failed, at times, to show due respect, not for Bergolgio himself, but for the papacy.
On the other had, I am sure that many of the Francis allies today, many of his close advisors, are Bergoglio´s true enemies, using him to build their own "chuch", after their interest. While heartfelt people (not everyone, I am afraid, but most of them, perhaps), answering legitimate questions, are regarded as archenemies, rivals that must be surpressed at all costs.
I am sorry. It is difficult to develop such feelings in foreign language. I am also torn on this matter, but I must side with the true Doctrine.
Pray for the Pope. Pray for the Church.
G.
Some excellent points there G sad as they are to espouse. I would be the happiest man alive if The Holy Spirit brought about Francis solidly teaching and defending the faith.
DeleteRC, you're going to have to calm yourself, mate, or I'll get the bouncers for ye :)
ReplyDeleteThe "papalatory" schtick doesn't jibe well with me, since I'm an outspoken critic of the direction the Church has been taken in the "spirit of V2". I have my own thoughts and opinions on Pope Francis' style of governance and some of the decisions he has made, which I do not make public out of respect for the office of the papacy. If it were up to me, things would be done much, much differently. But then I'm not the pope. My concerns are on the way the person of the pope and the office he represents has been attacked so viciously by those who profess to love the Church the most. Instead of "turning the other cheek", and waiting for this papacy to change hands in a few years, these theologians are intent on pulling him off his throne, and are willing to split the Church apart in the process. Pray for the pope, and pray for Church unity. The only good that I could possibly see coming from this whole mess is that an ecumenical council will be called to give fresh impetus and direction to this papacy. It's good to see that you haven't written Pope Francis off completely.
Hahaha ah the memories of a mispent youth in west belfast all came flooding back there,although to be fair although I have visited many a venue up and down the road I gave the doormen no prablems mucker! Agreed though i will certainly wind my neck in a bit.
DeleteLook to be fair they haven't viciously attacked him, they have respectfully asked him to clarify teaching which he is duty bound to do, yet for his self professed love of dialogue he doesn't even grant princes of the church an audience?? As i said I would be literally over the moon if he defended the authentic teaching of the church. It is an emotive issue most certainly, I guess in a way my passion for my faith is formed by what we experienced growing up where we did, Im sure we both know many people literally martyred for no other reason than they were Catholics living and working in certain areas of Belfast, we went about our business and daily lives with huge targets on our heads especially quite literally on ash wednesday!!! If you light a candle for me in St Johns or St Pauls? St Peters? Or Clonard? I'll reciprocate from over here in Our Ladys dowry. Deal mo chara?
" I have visited many a venue up and down the road I gave the doormen no prablems mucker! Agreed though i will certainly wind my neck in a bit."
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I recognize these words, but haven't a clue what this might mean. Two peoples separated by a common language, eh?
:)
I'm a bit rusty myself Mark to be honest having been away from home for quite a few years ☺ mucker is Belfast speak for friend/ mate, prablems is how a more working class Belfast man might say problems and to wind yer neck in means to cool down a bit/ behave yourself! It may also be expressed by respectfully requesting someone to "catch yerself on" Belfast speak in a nutshell ☺
DeleteHello emmett...for real...pope francis makes me feel confused...but this point of view you gave.(thats he is stgmatized)..its really beautiful....I know that Fracis is cleanning the h ouse in some way we dont understand....bless
ReplyDeleteRegarding Pope Francis, I always had a theory that he is purposefully pseudo-cooperating with the liberal forces in the Church so that they would come forth and be exposed. I have no doubt that many progressive leaning liberals in the church have no doubt masked their true intentions. With Pope Francis seemingly sympathetic to their causes, they would have felt more comfortable coming out in favor of certain changes. This way the next Pope in charge can really know who is who.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I believe God chose Pope Francis because of his message of mercy and forgiveness. I believe God is calling all to his mercy and final repentance because the time of judging the church and the nations draws near. As Jesus states in the Diary of Faustina, first I give my mercy and then my judgement.
Emmett - Pertaining to the question you asked yesterday "If you can outline for me where it says in approved prophecies where we will have a heretical pope, I would like to see them quoted." - I can offer only this from the Cathecism of Catholic Church (CCC575)
ReplyDelete(573)"Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.(574) The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth (575) will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.576"
I found an interesting article where Benedict speaks about trusting in God when the Church is on the verge of capsizing. He made these remarks of one of the late dubia signers. The comment reminds me of the "calming of the storm." We are in the boat with Christ sleeping. The sea is overpowering the boat with the turbulent seas of relativism and stalled by the winds of indifference. Let's not panic about the filial correction, but have faith. Let's not be rebuked by the Master of whom the seas obey.
ReplyDelete"What moved me all the more was that, in this last period of his life, he learned to let go and to live out of a deep conviction that the Lord does not abandon His Church, even when the boat has taken on so much water as to be on the verge of capsizing," the pope emeritus concluded.
Meisner, who was 83, was one of the four cardinals who sent Pope Francis a dubia, consisting of five questions, asking if Amoris Laetitia is aligned with Catholic morality. He died still awaiting the pope's response. Although Pope Francis hasn't answered the dubia, he has given his approval to interpretations of the controversial exhortation that say those living in adulterous unions may receive Holy Communion.
Pope Benedict also mentioned in his statement that he had spoken to Cardinal Mesiner on the telephone the day before his death.
Canon lawyer Kurt Martens said Pope Benedict's message was an "amazing yet diplomatic form of support for [the] dubia Cardinals."
I just read this article linked off of spiritdaily. I'm not sure how many of these sources are authentic so be advised when reading: https://www.markmallett.com/blog/2017/09/12/fatima-and-the-great-shaking/
ReplyDeleteSome interesting things mentioned that I thought were relevant to our previous discussions are:
* Pope Benedict referred to the flaming sword as forged from the hands of men. When I was reading it, it made me think of the flaming sword as a nuclear holocaust.
* Faustina's vision of a sword and the scales of Justice. This reminded me of previous discussions of the scales of St Michael highlighted by Emmett.
The rest of the article is focused on the titling of the earths axis and coupling the "messages" with scripture quotes about the Earth trembling. Am I right to be somewhat sceptical of this article? Are the sources authentic or do they corroborate with authentic revelation?
Hello...i read the article...i believe its all true....please check this video....its all about Fátima and a possible Weapon from Rússia that could change the axis of earth...hope you enjoy as i did...https://youtu.be/AR2jC8N4IEM
DeleteÍ know an amazing theory that the sword of fire must be a Secret Weapon from Rússia....as our lady Always Said.. ..russia Will be the instrument that God will use tô chastises the world...
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Timely quote from St. Catherine of Sienna:
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He is insane who rises or acts contrary to this Vicar who holds the keys of the blood of Christ crucified. Even if he was a demon incarnate, I should not raise my head against him, but always grovel and ask for the blood out of mercy. And don’t pay attention to what the demon proposes to you and you propose under the color of virtue, that is to say to want to do justice against evil pastors regarding their fault. Don’t trust the demon: don’t try to do justice about what does not concern you.
God wants neither you nor anyone else to set themselves up as a righter of the wrongs of His ministers. He reserves judgment to Himself, and He reserves it to His Vicar; and if the Vicar does not do justice, we should wait for the punishment and correction on the part of the sovereign judge, God Eternal." (Letters, Vol. I. Letter No. 28).
"He left you this sweet key of obedience; for as you know He left His vicar, the Christ, on earth, whom you are all obliged to obey until death, and whoever is outside His obedience is in a state of damnation" (Dialogue, Treatise on Obedience)
"For divine obedience never prevents us from obedience to the Holy Father: nay, the more perfect the one, the more perfect is the other. And we ought always to be subject to his commands and obedient unto death. However indiscreet obedience to him might seem, and however it should deprive us of mental peace and consolation, we ought to obey; and I consider that to do the opposite is a great imperfection, and deceit of the devil."
This gives me alot to think about.
rose
ReplyDelete@rk, very thoughtful quote.
True Catholic Doctrine entails, necessarily, a great deal of respect for the petrine office.
Pray for the Pope. Pay for the Church.
G.
Yeah...lets pray the Rosary for all that madness of our time...thats what Our Lady asks...only She can help and do something about it....
DeleteAt daily Mass this week we started reading Ezra, about the restoration of the Temple and the people of Israel after the Babylonian exile. This to me is a sign of hope that the Church too will be restored soon, after all the confusion of this era. I never thought I would see so much confusion in the Church itself.
ReplyDeleteEmmett, I just re-read Zechariah 3 as you mentioned. It too is a beautiful prophecy of hope Verse 9 (about the single stone with seven facets) reminds me of the letters to the Churches in Revelation. Zech. says "I will engrave its inscription, says the Lord of hosts, and i will remove the guilt of this land in a single day." Also, 2 Chr 29:36 says about how King Hezekiah restored the Temple, "And Hezekiah and all the people rejoiced because of what God had done for the people; for the thing had come about suddenly."
Maybe the Church will be restored suddenly, too, and what we are going through now is a trial of faith.
Thank you so much for posting that most timely message Rose; it most certainly should give all of us some pause to ponder the message from the great stigmatic, Patron Saint of both Italy and Europe, and Doctor of the Church, Catherine of Siena, which holds as true now as the day she put pen to paper to write in so many hundreds of years ago (I have always felt an affinity to St. Catherine of Siena, started by sharing the same birthday, but also because she tried so hard to keep the Church together during one of it's darkest hours).
ReplyDeleteShe wrote during the time of the great Western Schism, when Pope Urban VI was challenged by the Antipope Clement VII, dividing the Church like at no other time, with the opposing camps being in the primary Italy and France. I have to admit, after reading some of the comments here, I fear the possibility of the same tremors, and even again, a terrible schism, frankly, for reasons of politics rather than faith.
Please pray for the Holy Father's intentions, and seek not to try to strip him of his legitimacy as Christ's representative on Earth; with the frightening shape the world is in, rejecting the teaching authority of the Church, a new wave of Protestantism, I think is exactly the very last thing we need right now. And, reading between the line, I believe strongly that these accusations against our Holy Father are very much over-blown for political reasons (many on the right of the political spectrum don't like Pope Francis' reaffirmation of the Social Doctrine of the Church because it clashes with the typical right-wing political thinking).
I'd please ask everyone to please read the following with an open-mind and open-heart:
https://cruxnow.com/commentary/2017/06/03/mullers-defense-amoris-laeitia-reads-church-tradition/
An excerpt:
"Müller faces the document’s famous footnote 351, which says in some cases those who are divorced and remarried can have access to the sacraments of Communion and Reconciliation, directly.
He says it only applies, “If they are ready to live as sisters and brothers,” and refrain from sexual relations."
p.s. I find it very odd that under the pontificate of Pope St. John Paul II, it was a matter of course that when questions were raised that then Cardinal Ratzinger, in the same role that Cardinal Müller now holds, would provide clarificaation, yet that process now does not seem good enough for some Catholics... why is that?
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ReplyDelete@Jason: that is because Pope Francis and his allies dont spouse Cardinal Muller's view regarding the access to the sacraments to divorced and remarried, among other issues. That is also the main reason Cardinal Muller was replaced without delay at the last day of his mandate.
Nowadays, Vatican works in a more opaque way, people have much more power because of their access to the Holy Father, or their influence on him, not necessarily because the position or office they hold. Cardinal Muller and Cardinal Sarah are two examples of this state of affairs in Vatican.
In many ways, It resembles a lot the way Pope Paul Vi worked out with Bugnini the reform of the Catholic liturgy that followed the Second Vatican Council.
ReplyDeletePray for the Pope. Pay for the Church.
G.
Following on Mark W's list of upcoming feast days, the 1962 Missal notes these additional ones of particular interest:
ReplyDeleteOct 8 - St. Bridget of Sweden (to whom the Seven Sorrows devotion was revealed)
Oct 11 - Motherhood of the Blessed Virgin Mary
I thought this was interesting in view of the Oct 13 apparitions. If I remember correctly, Our Lady appeared to the children in three "scenes": with the Holy Family, as Our Lady of Sorrows, and finally as Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.
(St. Bridget also influenced St. Catherine of Siena, as both women advocated for the return of the papacy to Rome.)
Catherine
I just checked, and in the first scene, she appeared with the Holy Family as Our Lady of the Rosary. So we have the Oct 7 and Oct 11 feasts brought together.
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Apologies for not getting round replying to everyone's comments. Things have been hectic for me. Rose, that is a most beautiful quote from St. Catherine, who is held as the supreme example of saints who have challenged the Holy Father. I must use that in my next blog post, which will be titled "The Stigmatization of Pope Francis". This challenge on the Holy Father directly undermines the principle of Petrine Primacy. Should the masses be fit to rise up against the successor of St. Peter and appoint their own pope any time we have a pontiff who challenges us? All of these events that have been happening around the world have been centred on this moment, when the Woman Adorned with the Sun is threatened to be swept away by the flood which issues from the mouth of the evil one. Pray and make sacrifice for the Holy Father in his hour of his trial, judged by these unworthy ministers.
ReplyDeleteCan. 1404 "The First See is judged by no one."
I'll go down to Clonard RC, mo chara, and the wee shrine to Padre Pio up the Mountain Loney.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/05/22/padre-pio-and-the-miracle-man-of-belfast/
Belfast is certainly the town of unsung martyrs for the faith.
Also, I would urge any readers of the comments section to keep themselves fully appraised of Stephen Walford's and Steve Skojec's various debates on this subject on twitter etc. We need to listen to both sides. They are both good men of faith, but Stephen Walford definitely has a better grasp of what the doctrine of papal infallibility entails, as opposed to the protection from error in matters of faith and morals in the non-infallible ordinary magisterium. It's a complex theological issue which goes over the heads of many, and some of the commentators here clearly don't fully understand what this entails. But we need to educate ourselves in this important matter. I'll try to put up a recommended reading list.
ReplyDeleteStephen Walford comments here under the pen name Rachmaninov, and also recently met with the Holy Father in a private audience in July. So he is clearly the "go-to" guy of Pope Francis.
Oh, by the way, I suspected this "filial correction" was coming for some months now, and framed my whole post about St. Michael's Lent around it. I had this in mind the whole time, and was astonished to see it come at precisely the moment I thought it would, on the feast day of St. Padre Pio. Perhaps as someone mentioned above, the Holy Father needs to bear this stigmatization in order to prevent the world from spilling over into nuclear war, just as St. Padre Pio bore his stigmata for the end of the First World War.
ReplyDelete"One from beyond the mountains shall become the Vicar Of God. Religious and clerics shall take part in this change. Outside the true path, there will be only disreputable men; I shrug my shoulders when the Bark of Peter is in danger and there is no one to lend it help... The schismatic shall fall into the scorn of the Italian faithful... By about twelve years shall the millennium have passed when the resplendent mantle of legitimate power shall emerge from the shadows where it was being kept by the schism. And beyond harm from the one who is blocking the door of salvation, for his deceitful schism shall have come to an end. And the mass of the faithful shall attach itself to the worthy Shepherd, who shall extricate each one from error and restore to the Church its beauty. He shall renew it."
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Emmett, go raibh mile maith agat. Perhaps in the interest of balance in your next blog post as well as writing on St Catherine you may also include St Athanasius letter? Getting mighty confused with this whole situation, according to St Catherine anyone rising against the pope is insane? I thought St Paul rebuked St Peter?
ReplyDeletePerhaps mr Walford on any of the other excellent posters on this blog could answer a few points?
We now have a situation in the church where for example the Argentinean bishops allow people in mortal sin to profane the the Body,Blood,Soul and Divinity of Our Immaculate Lord, due to their interpretation of AL, the pope then writes these bishops and says there is no other interpretation???? Confusion reigns!!! Therefore it is not sacrilege anymore to receive in a state of mortal sin?? Is then St Paul wrong when he says anyone receiving unworthily damns themselves????
Lets get to the heart of the matter. Is adultery now not a mortal sin?
Or is it now that mortal sin isn't a barrier to receiving the Eucharist??
Whats the difference in say, a pope allowing the vast majority of the church to hold a position of lets say, that Jesus Christ was not Divine, and a pope allowing the vast majority of the church to profane that now established fact, that of course Christ is God but mortal sin does not offend that Divine Majesty in receiving it?? Pertinent questions but very few people willing to answer???
Now for something completely different as they say, Emmett I appreciate you are an extremely busy man and appreciate your replies, if you could find a few minutes, what are your thoughts on Mount Melleray?