Monday, 15 May 2017

The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart

Stephen Walford has published an excellent article on Vatican Insider, providing us with a detailed synopsis of his book Heralds of the Second Coming. In this article, titled The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart: The Light from the East is Dawning, he deftly tackles the problem of millenarianism in contemporary Catholicism, besides covering a host of other interesting topics on the subject of eschatology, with a particular emphasis on the prophetic charism of the papacy. You can read the full article here, or by clicking the link above.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Although I do value Stephen's insight into Fatima, the fact remains that he makes the same mistake in his article as he does in his book: he conflates Millenarianism with the period of peace and the possibility of a period of triumphant Christianity. In his article he rules out a "cessation of hostilities" prior to the Second Coming. This does not strike me as sound Catholic insight. In fact, numerous Popes have prayed for peace, temporal peace. In fact, peace, real temporal peace, is possible in individuals as well as society. Christ demands it and the Grace to achieve such a happy result is provided through the Sacraments. It is the fruit of living in state of grace - which is possible right here and right now by means of the Church, the Holy Spirit and the Sacraments. We've grown so accustomed to centuries of Freemasonic wars and corruption of morals in society, that we have forgotten a time when Christ ruled in individuals as well as in society: what was once known as Christendom. It was not a paradise on earth and sin, suffering and evil existed then just as much as they exist now. But let's not fall for the Freemasonic lie that peace is not possible in society. It certainly is and in fact the Church demands it and continually prays for it. While it is true that numerous Popes and private revelations have warned that the Second Coming is close, it is also true that they have foreseen and prayed for a period of peace and restoration within society and the Church. And I have in my possession a book from 1952 titled The Teaching of the Catholic Church, which bears the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur, and which strikes the proper balance on this issue:

"Another form of illusion in this great matter of Christ's second advent has been much more universal, much more persistent, and is, in a way, more easily forgivable. This form of religious dreaming is even older than the Gospels; it is man's hope of the millennium. It has always been the faith of certain pious people, whom the iniquities of the world have afflicted in their souls, that there would be on this earth some day a very magnificent kingdom of God. With the advent of Christianity it was, of course, Christ who would be the King of that happy era of human sanctity. It is not easy to contradict people and prove them to be wrong if they profess a hope in some mighty triumph of Christ here on earth before the final consummation of all things. Such an occurrence is not excluded, is not impossible, it is not at all certain that there may not be a prolonged period of triumphant Christianity before the end. The point of division between the legitimate aspirations of devout souls and the aberrations of false millenarism is this: the Chiliasts - as believers in the millennium are called, from the Greek word for thousand - seem to expect a coming of Christ and a presence of him in glory and majesty on this earth which would not be the consummation of all tings but would still be a portion of the history of mankind. This is not consonant with Catholic dogma. The coming of Christ int he second Advent - the Parousia, as it is is called technically - in orthodox Christianity is the consummation of all things, the end of human history. If before that final end there is to be a period, more or less prolonged, of triumphant sanctity, such a result will be brought about, not by the apparition of the Person of Christ in Majesty but by the operation of those powers of sanctification which are now at work, the Holy Ghost and the Sacraments of the Church."

Emmett O'Regan said...

Anon, you keep going round in circles with that non-authoritative 1952 book which Stephen has already shown written by a single priest. It is not a magisterial document. The Catechism rules out the idea a period of total peace on earth will be possible in history. I have given you some leeway so far, but if you attempt to use this book again to undermine the Catechism, I will delete your comments.

"The Church . . . will receive its perfection only in the glory of heaven," at the time of Christ's glorious return. Until that day, "the Church progresses on her pilgrimage amidst this world's persecutions and God's consolations." Here below she knows that she is in exile far from the Lord, and longs for the full coming of the Kingdom, when she will "be united in glory with her king." The Church, and through her the world, will not be perfected in glory without great trials. Only then will "all the just from the time of Adam, 'from Abel, the just one, to the last of the elect,' . . . be gathered together in the universal Church in the Father's presence." (CCC 769)

Anonymous said...

Emmett,

The book to which you derisively refer is a two-volume work titled "The Teaching of the Catholic Church: A Summary of Catholic Doctrine." It was was arranged and edited by Canon George D. Smith, D.D., Ph.D. The majority of the essays presented as a composite work were published originally as separate volumes in "The Treasury of the Faith" series. It contains the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur.

Where did Stephen show that this work is "non-authoritative?" And it wasn't written by a single priest; it's a composite work first printed in 1927. Obviously, he's never seen this two volume work in person.

I see nothing in the citation I referenced that would undermine the Catechism's teaching on the Second Coming or Millenarianism; if you think otherwise then make the case instead of resorting to bully tactics and threats of virtual book burning.

Rachmaninov said...

Anon,
Abbot Anscar Vonier wrote the essay on "Death and Judgment". Nobody else wrote it. Page 1101 to 1134. There was no theological commission. It is completely non authoritative. Have a look at Donum Veritatis for an understanding of the levels of magisterial teaching. An imprimatur only means its free from doctrinal error. And as I have pointed out in my book "Communion of Saints", Abbot Vonier does not even accept any millennium. He calls it "religious dreaming." I have no problem at all with what he said that Christianity could flower at some stage-as it does throughout history in different places-think of Africa the past century; millions of converts. That is what he is saying-conversions in the usual way and holiness through a sacramental life-which is what St. Bernard's adventus medius is all about. Of course as usual that teaching has been mangled as well to try and fit the error of the spiritual millennium into the authentic teaching of the Church. When it comes down to it, there is nothing-absolutely nothing in the magisterium that would accept your premise; that's why dodgy interpretations and dodgy private revelations have to be wheeled out.

Anonymous said...

Abbot Vonier most definitely understood Chiliasm and the Millennium: that's why he drew a distinction between "between the legitimate aspirations of devout souls" and the aberration of Chiliasm. Why are you trying to twist what the good Abbot wrote when it is clear as day to anyone who reads it for themselves?

As for my premise, I don't think you understand my premise at all. I am not promoting "spiritual millenarinism." Hoping and praying for peace to exist within individuals, within families and within society is not millenarianism or even modified millenarianism. It is what it means to be a Catholic living in the State of Grace. Hoping and praying that there will be cessation to centuries of Freemasonry's mortally sinful warmongering is in no way promoting Millenarianism.

It is entirely possible for the entire world to be Catholic right here and right now. It is also possible for the entire world to not only be Catholic but to live in a state of grace each and every day. Such a scenario would not see the abolition of sin, evil and suffering but would be a radially different status quo than what now exists. Such a scenario would be possible, not through some glorious coming - spiritual or otherwise - of Christ in Glory prior to the Second Coming. Rather, it it would be possible by means of the Sacraments and the mission of the Church. If such a view you call heretical, then I say you are the one with the problem, not me.

Rachmaninov said...

Ok,
So i accept what you say 100%. The question is then, if you are not promoting in any way a spiritual millennium, what was your problem with my essay; since it was based on what the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart means?

Rachmaninov said...

I ruled out a "cessarion of hostilities" precisely based on a spiritual millennium view . The CDF ruled it out in the Vassula notification of 1995.

Anonymous said...

The CDF ruled out something very specific. The words chosen were very specific. The CDF said:

"In millenarian style, it is prophesied that God is going to make a final glorious intervention which will initiate on earth, even before Christ's definitive coming, an era of peace and universal prosperity."

What was ruled out was a period of peace that is intitated, not by the Sacramental life of the Church, but rather by a final, glorious intervention. Big difference.

The Popes have been praying for peace between the nations for at least a century. Pope Francis has consistently prayed for peace and rallied against those who profit off of war. To say that the Church does not call or pray for a cessation of hostilities seems to be a gross misunderstanding of what the Church is actually saying.

Emmett O'Regan said...

Stephen, I think the above anonymous commentator is the same as the one who keeps posting about the consecration of Russia, and is coming at this from a different angle than Fr. Iannuzzi's supporters. But he won't sign his posts, so we have to be left guessing as to what comments belong to whom. Unless I'm wrong, his argument is that if there is a proper consecration of Russia specifically by name in unison with the world's bishops, then Russia will convert and lead to a historic period of triumph for the Church and universal peace on earth, and this is what the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary means.
The Blessed Virgin never promised universal peace on earth at Fatima, she promised that a "period of peace" or "certain time of peace" would be given to the world after the Second World War, which we have already seen with the worldwide collapse of Communism. Unfortunately, these entirely unrealistic expectations of worldwide universal peace in the wake of the consecration of Russia prevents many Catholics from recognizing what has already been accomplished through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin. I'm afraid you have raised the bar so high your expectations will never be met, even if there is a consecration carried out as specifically asked. You still have the problem of human free will in this scenario anonymous. At least Fr. Iannuzzi attempts to explain how this could be so through his use of his "living in the Divine Will" theory (which is really just the heresy of quietism). The Catechism teaches that the triumph of the Church can only take place through its Passover and resurrection.

Mark W said...

Wasn't Russia specifically consecrated in 1954 by Pius XII? I'm not trying to derail the argument, I'm just curious.

Emmett O'Regan said...

Yes, Russia was specifically consecrated by Pius XII in 1942 and 1952. But not in union with the bishops. It has never been consecrated as specifically asked, i.e. Russia by name and in union with the bishops. But we still have the testimony by Sr. Lucia that the 1884 ceremony was "accepted by heaven", and that its fruits was in the downfall of the Soviet Union in 1991. There are conditional and unconditional aspects to the prophecy:
"If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world." The consecration of Russia, its conversion and the period of peace was guaranteed in the Second Secret - it is destined to happen. This is what was effected through the 1984 consecration (although the conversion of Russia to Catholicism lies in the future, during the healing of the East/West schism by the Angelic Pope). The conditional aspect is whether or not Russia will be the chosen instrument of God's chastisement. It think it will remain so until it is "too late".

Anonymous said...

Emmett,

This is anon from the first post. Just to clarify: I do believe and accept that the 1984 Consecration fulfilled Our Lady of Fatima's request. The Church has said the Consecration was valid and so I accept that it was valid. I also believe that the period of peace promised at Fatima has yet to occur, a position Pope Benedict took in 2010 where he prayed that the Triumph would commence prior to the centenary. You seem to believe that the period of peace promised at Fatima is synonymous with the Second Coming. I find this to be an extremely weird position and one that doesn't jive at all in my mind with the message of Fatima. As for Father Iannuzzi, I am not a follower of his and know very little about him other than that he has been accused here of dabbling in millenarianism.

Rachmaninov said...

anon from the last post here,
Just to clarify. Pope Benedict did not at any stage pray that the triumph would occur by 2017.What he prayed was that it would be hastened. They are two totally different things

Emmett O'Regan said...

Anon, I'm glad you distance yourself from Fr. Iannuzzi's theories, and that you refer to a "period of peace" rather than an "era". My apologies for assuming that you were advancing the spiritual millenarianism of Fr. Iannuzzi. But you really should catch up on what Stephen Walford has already established about the authority of that book in your possession. It is not magisterial - only certain documents published by the pope fall under the category of the ordinary magisterium (which is infallible). You need to set that book aside. I don't believe that the prophesied period of peace at Fatima is concerned with the Second Coming, but that it is here now, and has been since the end of the Cold War. There will never be an end to evil on earth, such a prospect only lies beyond this world, after the eschatological judgement. That is the Triumph, when we follow Our Lord in his Via Dolorosa.
Also, please sign your posts so we can distinguish you from other anonymous posters with similar views. Anything will do. Otherwise, we have to presume that Mr. Herring is responsible for all anonymous posts.

chris said...


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-cardinal-burke-calls-for-consecration-of-russia-to-immaculate-hear

BREAKING: Cardinal Burke calls for Consecration of Russia to Immaculate Heart of Mary

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chris said...



Expertrfive.com/interview-dr-michael-hesemann-fatima-expert/


https://onepeterfive.com/interview-dr-michael-hesemann-fatima-expert/


Interview with Dr. Michael Hesemann, Fatima Expe

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chris said...


Historic Moment for Many Catholics … Vatican Investigation Concludes “Medjugorje Apparitions are Real”

http://www.mysticpost.com/2017/05/historic-moment-many-catholics-vatican-investigation-concludes-medjugorje-apparitions-real/


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chris said...


https://thefivebeasts.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/the-five-beasts-of-st-hildegard-and-revelation-17-the-beast-with-seven-heads/

The Five Beasts of St. Hildegard and Revelation 17: The Beast with Seven Heads

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chris said...



The Celestial Phenomenon on Sept. 23 and Revelation 12


https://thefivebeasts.wordpress.com/2017/04/18/the-celestial-phenomenon-on-sept-23-and-revelation-12/


The timing of this, occurring during the centenary of Fatima and the Miracle of the Sun, may also suggest it’s the harbinger of a response to the disregard of Our Lady’s requests.

An astute observation by Catholic journalist points in this direction. Writing about the significance of the upcoming astronomical phenomenon, Patrick Archibold recalled a communication from Our Lord received by Fatima seer Sister Lucia in 1931:

“Make it known to My ministers, given that they follow the example of the King of France in delaying the execution of My requests, they will follow him into misfortune.”
Archibold explains that on June 17, 1689 Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque, following Christ’s direction, implored King Louis XIV to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. This was never accomplished and exactly 100 years later, to the day, King Louis XVI was stripped of authority when the Third Estate declared itself the sole authority to conduct the affairs of France. The Revolution had commenced; the King would be executed four years later and the Catholic Church would suffer despoliation and persecution.

God gave the French 100 years to comply with his requests and Lucia is telling Church authorities that they will have the same. The 100-year period of the Fatima apparition concludes on Oct. 13, 2017, the anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun, the same month that the pope is headed to Sweden to celebrate the Reformation. If that day passes without a significant event that would suggest that a difficult time for the Church lies ahead, perhaps we should all breathe a sigh of relief.

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Paul Luke said...

1984 did not fulfill Our Lady's request. The Consecration was partial, with a partial response from Heaven. The October miracle at Fatima was partial because the children were kidnapped. St John Paul's​ intention was to mention Russia but it was kidnapped by Fatima's enemies. Since St John Paul's heartfelt intention was not known by all Bishops how can we say it was fulfilled? Cardinal Burke is calling for a Consecration to Russia to redress the balance thus "in the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph".

chris said...

https://onepeterfive.com/amidst-conflicting-fatima-secrets-a-clear-message-shines/

Amidst Conflicting Fatima “Secrets,” a Clear Message Shines
Steve Skojec Steve Skojec May 17, 2017 113 Comments
Sometimes, it’d be nice if things were a bit less complicated.

................
pressed by Zavala on why he so forcefully believes that the consecration was not done, Fr. Amorth replied: “Very simple: John Paul II wanted to mention Russia expressly, but in the end he did not.”

Zavala pressed the issue with Fr. Amorth, saying that Sister Lucia herself (as mentioned above) had said that Heaven had accepted the consecration. He describes an incredulous reaction from Fr. Amorth. “Lucia said that…?” He asked. Zavala continues:

“Well, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said it, in the year 2000, hiding behind a letter [escud├índose en una carta] from Lucia dated November 1989, in which she stated that Heaven had admitted consecration in spite of one of the most important conditions.

“Have you seen that letter?” He asks, as if conducting a police interrogation in search of evidence.

“Never,” I say flatly.

“I do not think you’ll ever see it, because I’m convinced that Lucia did not write it.”


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chris said...

Moreover,” he adds, “if the consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary made by Pius XII in 1942 was only partially accepted [because he did not specifically mention Russia – ed], for Jesus said that in view of it the war would only be shortened rather than finished immediately, why would He now change his mind with John Paul II, if Russia was not mentioned on this occasion?”

“It would be an incongruity, yes.”

“Rather.”

“So…?”

“I have no doubt that the consecration did not occur in the terms required by the Virgin. But we must not lose sight of what she herself wanted to tell us through Lucia: ‘In the end My Heart Immaculate will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me and it will become, granting itself to the world A time of peace’…”

chris said...



There is a caveat to the----https://onepeterfive.com/interview-dr-michael-hesemann-fatima-expert/ interview with Dr. Michael Hesemann, Fatima Expert.

Dr. Hesemann has expressed and written articles that have included errors about Father Nicholas Gruner. I am not going to point out these differences because I think you are aware of the lies told of Father Gruner if you are a devotee to Our Lady. I comment only to alert readers that it is very difficult to find unbiased writing and commentary regarding this subject.
This article has some thought provoking insights.

Chris

chris said...


last one
https://onepeterfive.com/amidst-conflicting-fatima-secrets-a-clear-message-shines/

Fr. Gabriele furrows his brow and sticks out his chin. He seems very affected.

“Indeed,” he states, “One day Padre Pio said to me very sorrowfully: ‘You know, Gabriele? It is Satan who has been introduced into the bosom of the Church and within a very short time will come to rule a false Church.’”

“Oh my God! Some kind of Antichrist! When did he prophesy this to you?” I [Zavala] ask.

“It must have been about 1960, since I was already a priest then.”

“Was that why John XXIII had such a panic about publishing the Third Secret of Fatima, so that the people wouldn’t think that he was the anti-pope or whatever it was …?”

A slight but knowing smile curls the lips of Father Amorth.

“Did Padre Pio say anything else to you about future catastrophes: earthquakes, floods, wars, epidemics, hunger …? Did he allude to the same plagues prophesied in the Holy Scriptures?”

“Nothing of the sort mattered to him, however terrifying they proved to be, except for the great apostasy within the Church. This was the issue that really tormented him and for which he prayed and offered a great part of his suffering, crucified out of love.”

“The Third Secret of Fatima?”

“Exactly.”

“Is there any way to avoid something so terrible, Fr. Gabriele?”

“There is hope, but it’s useless if it’s not accompanied by works. Let us begin by consecrating Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, let us recite the Holy Rosary, let us all do prayer and penance …”

chris said...



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Mark W said...

Hey Emmett,

Something occurred to me the other day, and I'm curious what you might think of it.

Fatima started out on May 13th, 1917, but there wasn't any attention paid to it. The only earthly participants were the three children. May 13th, 2017, was a day with no great events as well - merely the beginning of the centenary.

The three seers were given the vision of Hell on July 13, 1917.

The Miracle of the Sun was on October 13th, 1917.

So what do you think of the idea that bigger events may be in store as the centenary moves along? Might there be some kind of Marian event in July that grips the worlds attention, and focuses us on the darkness that's so obvious to some of us these days? Might there be an even bigger event in store for October?

I guess what I'm saying is, what if the centenary plays out in much the same way as the original visions? How likely do you think such a string of events might be?

I know it's a loaded series of questions, and no one really knows the answer. But I'm curious if you have a feel for how the next few months will play out.

Mark

Emmett O'Regan said...

I really have no idea Mark, beyond pure speculation. But, yes, it seems feasible that the major events are yet to come, and I have always suspected that if anything, they would arrive later in the year. I don't want to get roped into "prophesying" anything though. This is something I am incapable of. But I do take note of certain coincidences, since I feel this is part and parcel of the way God acts within history. My gut feeling is that the date of 23rd Sept, 2017 does point to something significant, but exactly what this could be is still very much an uncertainty.