Tuesday 18 February 2014

The Angel of the Seven Thunders




St. Bonaventure and the Angel, by Francisco de Zurbaran (1629)


The duration of the period of peace foretold to take place immediately before the coming of the Antichrist, is one of the topics contemplated by the Seraphic Doctor, St. Bonaventure, who linked the beginning of this period to the shout of the angel of the seven thunders:

"no one knows how long that time of great peace will last since "when they said 'Peace and security,' then suddenly destruction came upon them" (Matt 24:21). The seventh time or age, that of quiet, begins with the shout of the angel who "swore through Him who lives forever and ever that there would be no more time; but in the days of the seventh angel the mystery of God will be completed" (Rev 10:6-7).
In the sixth age three things take place - excellence of victory, excellence of teaching, and excellence of the prophetic life.... In this age there ought to come a life through an order which will possess the prophetic life. This age is double. Just as in the Lord's Passion there was first light, then darkness, and then light, so it is necessary that first there be the light of teaching and that Josiah succeed Hezekiah, after which came the tribulation of the Jews through their captivity. It is necessary that one ruler, a defender of the Church, arise. He is either still to come or has already come. (He added: Would that he has not already come!) After him will come the darkness of tribulations..."

It was said to the angel of Philadelphia, the sixth angel: "He who is holy and true, who has the key of David, who opens and no man closes, closes and no man opens, says this - 'I know your works, and behold I have placed an open door before you'" (Rev 3:7). (And he said that now for the first time the understanding of Scripture would be given and that the revelation, or key of David, would be given to a person or a large group, but I think rather to a large group.)
In the seventh age we know that these things will take place - the rebuilding of the Temple, the restoration of the city, and the granting of peace. Likewise in the coming seventh age there will be a restoration of Divine worship and a rebuilding of the city. Then the prophecy of Ezekiel will be fulfilled when the city comes down from heaven (Ezek 40); not indeed that city which is above, but that city which is below, the Church Militant which will then be conformed to the Church Triumphant as far as possible in this life. Then will be the building and restoration of the city as it was in the beginning. Then there will be peace. God alone knows how long that peace shall last.
(St. Bonaventure, Collation 16:17-19. Translated by McGinn, B. Visions of the End, pp199-200)

In the above text, St. Bonaventure connects the coming of the period of peace to the idea of a "seventh age" of the Church, which was a common interpretation of the meaning of the seven oracles addressed to the Churches of Asia Minor found in Rev 2-3. This in turn was partially based on the earlier tradition of a "Great Week" or "Sabbath Millennium" discussed by the early Church Fathers, which proposed that the whole of human history would consist of a week of millennia corresponding to the seven days of creation - in accordance with the words of 2Pet 3:8: "But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." Using the chronology given in the Greek Septuagint version of the Old Testament, many early Christians, such as St. Hippolytus, calculated the date of creation to around the year 5,500BC, which placed the end of the Sabbath week of millennia at around the year 500.

However a completely different chronology can be found by using the original Hebrew version of the Old Testament, which yields a difference of 1,500 years. This alternative chronology was used during the 2nd century AD by Rabbi Jose ben Halafta to date the creation of the world to 3761BC, and this is still the date given for creation using the Anno Mundi system in modern Judaism. During the 17th century, Anglican Archbishop James Ussher of Armagh used the chronology given in the Hebrew Bible to calculate the date of creation as 4004BC  - meaning that the seventh millennium of the "Great Week" actually began around the year 1996. If we are to interpret the significance of the Sabbath Millennium in relation to the more obvious symbolism of the Anno Domini calendar however, the primary point of reference would be naturally shifted to align with the turn of the millennium.

Although it must be noted that the seven ages of the Church discussed by St. Bonaventure is different from the idea of a prophetic week of millennia, they start to make a lot more sense once we reapply his meditations on Scripture to parallel this much older view of the Sabbath Millennium. St. Bonaventure states that the "time of quiet" during the seventh age, or the "time of great peace" would begin with the shout of the angel holding the little scroll in Rev 10:

Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, wrapped in a cloud, with a rainbow over his head, and his face was like the sun, and his legs like pillars of fire. He had a little scroll open in his hand. And he set his right foot on the sea, and his left foot on the land, and called out with a loud voice, like a lion roaring. When he called out, the seven thunders sounded. And when the seven thunders had sounded, I was about to write, but I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Seal up what the seven thunders have said, and do not write it down.” And the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven and swore by him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and what is in it, the earth and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it, that there would be no more delay, but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.
Then the voice that I had heard from heaven spoke to me again, saying, “Go, take the scroll that is open in the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land.” So I went to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll. And he said to me, “Take and eat it; it will make your stomach bitter, but in your mouth it will be sweet as honey.” And I took the little scroll from the hand of the angel and ate it. It was sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it my stomach was made bitter. And I was told, “You must again prophesy about many peoples and nations and languages and kings.”
(Rev 10)

Angel of the Revelation, by William Blake


St. Bonaventure's contention that the "time of great peace" which takes place at the start of the seventh age would be marked with the shout of the seven thunders is noteworthy in the fact that the sound produced by the angel here is described as being like a "roaring lion". In the earlier post The Third Secret of Fatima and the Angel with the Flaming Sword, we have already discussed how the prophecy of the angel of the seven thunders can be connected to the terrible events of 9/11. We shall discuss this in some more detail shortly below. The link between the shout of the angel of the seven thunders and the attacks on the World Trade Centre recalls some remarkable private revelations given to Venezuelan mystic Maria Esperanza (1928-2004), who was proclaimed a Servant of God by Bishop Paul Bootkoski in 2010. The following material is taken from Catholic author Michael H. Brown's website Spirit Daily:

It was Venezuelan mystic Maria Esperanza -- whose cause for sainthood is now under investigation by the diocesan tribunal -- who in December of 2000 claimed to Spirit Daily that enemies were on American soil -- one of them a "small" enemy -- and planning to strike. Our headline: "World-known mystic Maria Esperanza warns U.S. of foreign danger, sees world 'saddened' in a short while, is concerned with the Mid-East, the Pope, and two nations." She was warning of two foreign "powers," one that she described as small, the other larger, acting in such a way as to provoke America. "The United States has to be very careful," she stated. "It has to act with a lot of prudence." As her son-in-law and interpreter explained to us at the time (ten months before September 11), "She feels in her heart that there is a certain big thing that is about to happen." He went on to say that a heaviness in her heart indicated something was on the way. She repeated this warning while in New Jersey that following March of 2001. It would be something that "will shake the world."
Then, in mid-August of 2001, her family sent Spirit Daily a fax warning that the event of which she had been speaking was about to occur -- which, of course, it did, less than three weeks later. The exact date: August 25 at 9:35 p.m. The fax said the event would occur in "three weeks or three months." It happened 17 days later.
In the frenzied day after 9/11, Maria -- who happened to be in northern Manhattan on September 11, during a long stay in the U.S.! -- said she saw a "roaring lion" behind the attacks. This is before the world knew of Al Qaeda. It later turned out that Osama means "lion." Years before, in the 1990s, she had described to pilgrims a vision she had of two large towers in New York on fire and collapsing...
(Read the full article here).

This particular insight, which appears to link the events of 9/11 with the sound of the "roaring lion" at the shout of the angel holding the little scroll, would further strengthen my hypothesis that the attacks on the Twin Towers during the turn of the millennium are directly related to the "blood, fire and columns of smoke" described by the prophet Joel. In the Book of Joel, it is prophesied that a number of visible signs would accompany the eschatological outpouring of the Holy Spirit during the Second Pentecost:

“And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions. Even on the male and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit.
“And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.
(Joel 2:28-32)

The view that the events of 9/11 are related to the "signs in the heaven" predicted in the Bible, is apparently shared by Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who upon returning from officiating Sr. Lucia's funeral Mass in Feburary 2005, stated to journalists during an interview with the Italian daily newspaper La Republica newspaper that: "prophecy must always be interpreted: It is enough to think of the Apocalypse, of the signs in heaven. Have these perhaps not already been seen with the airplanes that toppled the Twin Towers?" 
(La Republica, 17th Feb, 2005: cited in Socci, A. The Fourth Secret of Fatima p119) 


The portion of the Apocalypse that the then Secretary of the Congregation of Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) was referring to during this interview is the signs in heaven that occur at opening of the sixth seal:

When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.
(Rev 6:12-13)

The signs in heaven are also mentioned by Christ during His eschatological discourse on Mt. Olivet:

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn..."
(Matt 24:29-30)

This begs the question whether the connection between 9/11 and the "signs in heaven" was merely the personal musings of the Secretary of the CDF here, or whether this interpretation has been widely discussed within the highest circles of the Vatican hierarchy. Although the reference to the "blood, fire and columns of smoke" is omitted in the Apocalypse as part of the events which unfold at the opening of the sixth seal, we are prompted to compare this passage with its scriptural precedents in order to flesh out a fuller picture. When we do so, we can safely conclude that the "signs in heaven" consist of the following events:

A powerful earthquake
A total solar eclipse (the Sun becoming black like sackcloth)
A total lunar eclipse (or blood moon)
A great meteor shower
The appearance of the mysterious "sign of the Son of Man"
Some sort of major disaster which involves "blood, fire and columns of smoke"

As we have already discussed at some length in the post Signs in the Sky, all of these events occurred at the turn of the millennium (or the beginning of the Sabbath Millennium according to the chronology of the Hebrew Bible) - which can be linked to the start of the "seventh age" that St. Bonaventure believed would be inaugurated by the shout of the angel holding the little scroll (which sounds like a lion roaring).

We have noted in a previous post that a bridging connection between the angel of the seven thunders and the angel of the Third Secret of Fatima can be found once we examine the exact portion of the Old Testament which is alluded to in Rev 10. The motif of the angel raising his hand to heaven to swear an eternal oath in Rev 10:5 is directly lifted from Deut 32, which provides the additional detail that it is this same angel who holds the flashing, flaming sword which protects the way to the Tree of Life - the angel seen in the Third Secret of Fatima:

For I lift up my hand to heaven and swear, As I live forever, if I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries and will repay those who hate me.
(Deut 32:40-41)

In the Third Secret of Fatima, the flames spewed forth from this sword which threaten to consume the world are temporarily quenched by the rays of grace that emanate from the hands of the Blessed Virgin, in order to allow a time of penance to take place before the final Passover of the Church - a period which should be equated with the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary:

 ...at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘PenancePenancePenance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it'...

The imagery here is clearly based on that of the Miraculous Medal, which shows rays of light emanating from the hands of the Blessed Virgin, and the head of the Ancient Serpent being crushed underneath her heel. The focus of the wrath dealt out by the sword is now directed away from humanity, and is aimed at the head of the Adversary instead. Although the head of the Serpent is metaphorically crushed under the heel of the Woman Adorned with the Sun (in order to indicate who is ultimately responsible for his defeat - in accordance with the Protoevangelium of Gen 3:14), it is the Archangel Michael who is tasked to deal the fatal blow to the Enemy.


Archangel Michael Hurls the Rebellious Angels into the Abyss, by Luca Giordano (c.1666)

The fact that the angel of the seven thunders in Rev 10 is based on the angel holding a sword swearing an eternal oath in Deut 32, helps us to identify both figures as St. Michael - the angel who delivers the fatal head wound to the Ancient Serpent when he is cast out from heaven.
The imagery of the angel holding the open scroll is clearly modeled on one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World - the torch-bearing Colossus of Rhodes. The Colossus was thought to have similarly stood with one foot on the land and one foot on the sea, largely based on the fact that the ancient dedication poem to the statue mentions its dominion "over land and sea" twice:

To you, o Sun, the people of Dorian Rhodes set up this bronze statue reaching to Olympus, when they had pacified the waves of war and crowned their city with the spoils taken from the enemy. Not only over the seas but also on land did they kindle the lovely torch of freedom and independence. For to the descendants of Herakles belongs dominion over sea and land.
(Anthologia Graeca 4, 171 H.)

The oldest representations of the Colossus of Rhodes in works of art always present the posture of this statue as standing with one foot on the land and one on the sea, holding aloft a blazing torch (which in visual terms readily evokes the imagery of a "flaming sword"). The depiction of the statue standing with one foot on the land and one on the sea was intended to symbolize the Rhodians' military superiority over both land and sea. St. John would have been thoroughly acquainted with the story of the Colossus, since a particularly strong tradition informs us that he stayed for some time at the nearby coastal city of Ephesus, and the Apocalypse itself was composed on Patmos, one of the neighbouring islands to Rhodes.


The Colossus of Rhodes, from The Book of Knowledge, The Grolier Society, 1911


The Statue of Liberty, designed by the French Freemason Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi, was directly modeled on the Colossus of Rhodes, and incorporates not only the same torch-bearing motif, but was also based on the presumed dimensions of the ancient wonder of the world. Bartholdi feminised his version of the colossus as a personification of liberty, and drew on similar themes found among the imagery of the goddesses of ancient mythology. Most notably, we find that the characteristics of the Statue of Liberty closely parallels that of the Greek goddess Hecate. As well as sharing the rays which form an aureole around her head, the goddess Hecate is similarly depicted in ancient art as bearing a torch. 




The Hecate Chiaramonti, which resides in the Vatican Museums





Hecate wearing a crown of rays

Hecate was closely associated with the Egyptian goddess Isis and her counterparts in the Mesopotimian pantheons as the goddesses Ishtar/Inanna/Astarte. These were in turn derived from the same archetype as the goddess Semiramis - the legendary wife of king Ninus, who Greek historians identified as the eponymous founder of Nineveh.



As early as the Clementine literature, which dates to circa 300-400AD, Ninus was equated with the biblical king Nimrod, who the Book of Genesis tells us was also the founder of Nineveh:

Cush fathered Nimrod; he was the first on earth to be a mighty man. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD. Therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the LORD.” The beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he went into Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth-Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah; that is the great city.
(Gen 10:8-12)

In the mythology of ancient Assyria, the goddess Ishtar was the daughter of Ninurta, the god of Lagash - who has also been identified by scholars with the biblical king Nimrod. An interesting aspect of the Assyrian goddess Ishtar/Astarte, and her Sumerian counterpart Inanna is that her symbols in ancient art were the lion, and an eight pointed star which represented the planet Venus (the Daystar or Lucifer). Ishtar/Inanna was the goddess of erotic love (not marriage) and promiscuity, and because of her unpredictable nature, she was also associated with war and chaos. According to an ancient Sumerian text known as the Hymn to Inanna:

"She stirs confusion and chaos against those who are disobedient to her, speeding carnage and inciting the devastating flood, clothed in terrifying radiance. It is her game to speed conflict and battle, untiring, strapping on her sandals."



The Sumerian goddess Inanna, depicted alongside her symbols, the lion and an eight-pointed star representing Venus


The Assyrian goddess Ishtar, shown standing on two lions  

Although it is not explicitly mentioned in the text of the Old Testament itself, both Jewish and Christian tradition hold that it was king Nimrod who was responsible for constructing the Tower of Babel after the flood. The purpose of this tower was to reach heaven itself, but ultimately wrought the disunity of mankind as a result of the confusion of languages:

Now the whole earth had one language and the same words. And as people migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. And they said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks, and burn them thoroughly.” And they had brick for stone, and bitumen for mortar. Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth.” And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of man had built. And the LORD said, “Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another's speech.” So the LORD dispersed them from there over the face of all the earth, and they left off building the city. Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the LORD confused the language of all the earth. And from there the LORD dispersed them over the face of all the earth.
(Gen 11:1-9)


The story of king Nimrod, which appears immediately after the narrative of Noah's flood in the Bible, may also be alluded to in the fact that there are clouds and a rainbow above the head of the angel of the seven thunders (Rev 10:1), since these are the visible signs of the Noahic covenant:

I have set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth. When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds, I will remember my covenant that is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh. 
(Gen 9:13-15)

When viewed together as a collective whole, the imagery of the angel holding the little scroll thus not only alludes to the Colossus of Rhodes, but it also foreshadows the symbolism of the goddesses of ancient Mesopotamia which would be incorporated into the Statue of Liberty - goddesses who were represented by the symbol of a lion and Venus/Lucifer, and who were closely associated with the story of king Nimrod and the building of the Tower of Babel.
The imagery of the angel holding the open scroll in Rev 10 is further reflected in the fact that the Statue of Liberty similarly clutches on to a tabula ansata - a tablet bearing dovetail handles which resembles an open scroll.




An ancient tabula ansata bearing a Greek inscription. The handles indicate that the text is an open scroll containing an authoritative proclamation

The legs of the angel of the seven thunders being like "pillars of fire" further recalls  the "blood, fire and columns of smoke" listed by the Book of Joel as one of the signs in heaven during the eschatological outpouring of the Holy Spirit.



A further link to the confusion of languages can be found during the events of the original Pentecost, when one of the principal signs of the descent of the Holy Spirit onto the apostles together with the Blessed Virgin in the Upper Room in Jerusalem, was the miracle of speaking in tongues.



The Confusion of Tongues, by Gustave Doré

When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing them speak in his own language. And they were amazed and astonished, saying, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “What does this mean?”
(Acts 2:1-12)

The miracle of speaking in tongues was in effect a reversal of the confusion of tongues which took place at the building of the Tower of Babel in Gen 11. This unique miracle symbolized the fact that God was now ready to reunite all of humanity through the proclamation of the Gospel. At Pentecost, mankind had now indeed reached the heavens; but it was not accessed by a tower constructed through his own inflated sense of self-determination - which presumes that the creation can ascend to the throne of the Creator. The only tower through which humanity could truly reach the gates of eternal paradise was that which was opened by the sacrifice of the Lamb - the eternal Word of God who humbled Himself to become incarnate in the womb of the Blessed Virgin.

At the construction of the Tower of Babel, which acted as a sort of "anti-Pentecost", bringing division to humanity, the uncompleted tower itself was left intact, and the punishment for this act of hubris was the confusion of languages. Pentecost itself miraculously reversed this confusion of languages as a sign of the restoration of unity in humanity in Christ (who is the Light brought to the gentiles), at the very birthday of the Church. The only tower to reach the heavens during this episode was Jesus Himself, who had allowed entrance to the Kingdom of God through His Death and glorious Resurrection. It seems apt then that the beginning of the Second Pentecost, which will eventually unite the scattered people of God under one shepherd, was marked by the destruction of towers in the presence of a statue which invokes the Babylonian goddess Ishtar, whose mythology is inextricably bound with the story of king Nimrod.

This is not to say that the terrorists of 9/11 were acting on behalf of God, or that those who lost their lives on that dreadful day were deserving of punishment. This truly was an unspeakable evil, committed by twisted fanatics whose only destiny is the road to eternal punishment. But God sometimes permits evil to happen to fit the purposes of His overall plan for creation. This is not only to make us aware of His anger, but as a Father who chastises His children to prevent them from coming to greater harm.

Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.
(Rev 3:19)

The events of 9/11 serve as a warning, not only to America, but to the entire "Christian" West, of a worse punishment to come if we do not amend our ways, and depart from this current state of apostate secularism.

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Pay her back as she herself has paid back others, and repay her double for her deeds...
(Rev 18:4-6)

The immediate winning over of "about three thousand souls" at Pentecost, described in Acts 2:41, appears to foreshadow and balance out the almost exact number of three thousand souls that were lost during the attacks on September 11th.

Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
(Acts 2:37-41)

So the immediate flood of 3,000 converts at Pentecost appears to have been a prophetic sign itself, reflecting the 3,000 people who would be tragically lost at the start of the Second Pentecost.

When we look at the context in which this imagery is used throughout the rest of the Bible, we can gain a further insight into the significance of the shout of the angel holding the little scroll. The noise produced by the angel in this vision - the sound of a lion roaring, is particularly important. The symbolism of a roaring lion is used in the First Epistle of St. Peter to describe how Satan roams the earth in search of prey:

Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
(1 Pet 5:8)

Could this be a further reference to the casting out of Satan from heaven, when he is thrown down to the earth by the Archangel Michael? The imagery of the Devil prowling around back and forth on the earth in search of prey is used in the Book of Job - the text that forms the basis for the Prophecy of Pope Leo XIII  (which also points to the significance of the turn of the millennium, as the end of the period of Satan's greater power).

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. The LORD said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.” And the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear God for no reason? Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.” And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.
(Job 1:6-12)

After Satan has been granted his period of greater power, or the "little while" of Rev 20:3, he is no longer tolerated to stand in the heavenly throne room in order to accuse humanity, but is thrown down to the earth, whereupon he pursues the Woman Adorned with the Sun with renewed vigour:

Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”
(Rev 12:7-12)

Although this text is based on the events of Lucifer's primordial fall from grace, it is also clearly eschatological in nature, and concerns events that will only occur towards the end of the world. Even though Satan had already fallen from grace and earned his place in the abyss, he was still permitted to flit between earth and the heavenly throne room, and bring the sins of humanity before God in order to accuse them (as is evidenced by the Book of Job). But the Book of Revelation informs us that this situation is only tolerated up to a certain point, and towards the end of time, Satan is cast from heaven down to the earth, upon which he rises in the form of the seven-headed water dragon, variously known in ancient mythology as Levithan, Rahab, Tiamat or Lotan.
It is when Satan is cast from heaven down to the earth that the head of the Serpent is crushed under the feet of the Woman, and the Archangel Michael deals the head of the Dragon a fatal blow with his flaming sword:

In that day the LORD with his hard and great and strong sword will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan the twisting serpent, and he will slay the dragon that is in the sea.
(Isa 27:1)

The Book of Job describes this moment in context with the appearance a number of the signs in heaven - the covering of the face of the full moon (i.e. a lunar eclispse), and also the trembling and astonishment of the "pillars of heaven":

Sheol is naked before God, and Abaddon has no covering. He stretches out the north over the void
and hangs the earth on nothing. He binds up the waters in his thick clouds, and the cloud is not split open under them. He covers the face of the full moon and spreads over it his cloud. He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness. The pillars of heaven tremble and are astounded at his rebukeBy his power he stilled the sea; by his understanding he shattered Rahab. By his wind the heavens were made fair; his hand pierced the fleeing serpent.
(Job 26:6-13)

In comparing the Egyptian Pharaoh to the Devil, the Book of Ezekiel similarly informs us that the casting down of Satan to earth at the end-time is marked by the appearance of the signs in heaven - solar and lunar eclipses; in a passage which also contains echoes of the eschatological banquet described Rev 19:17-21:

“Son of man, raise a lamentation over Pharaoh king of Egypt and say to him:
“You consider yourself a lion of the nations, but you are like a dragon in the seas; you burst forth in your rivers, trouble the waters with your feet, and foul their rivers. Thus says the Lord GOD:
I will throw my net over you with a host of many peoples, and they will haul you up in my dragnet.
And I will cast you on the ground; on the open field I will fling you, and will cause all the birds of the heavens to settle on you, and I will gorge the beasts of the whole earth with you. I will strew your flesh upon the mountains and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with your flowing blood, and the ravines will be full of you. When I blot you out, I will cover the heavens and make their stars dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give its light. All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over you, and put darkness on your land, declares the Lord GOD.

(Ezek 32:2-8)

An earlier passage in Ezekiel also describes the wicked Israelite royalty in a similar fashion, and speaks of the destruction of cities at the sound of a roaring lion:

He prowled among the lions; he became a young lion, and he learned to catch prey; he devoured men, and seized their widows. He laid waste their cities, and the land was appalled and all who were in it at the sound of his roaringThen the nations set against him from provinces on every side; they spread their net over him; he was taken in their pit. With hooks they put him in a cage and brought him to the king of Babylon; they brought him into custody, that his voice should no more be heard
on the mountains of Israel.
(Ezek 19:6-9)

The same theme is taken up in the Book of Amos, which as well as mentioning disaster being visited to a city at the roaring of a lion and the sounding of a trumpet, adds the detail that God will also reveal his secrets to those who serve him at this time - which parallels the sealed words of Scripture described in the Book of Daniel, (which is alluded to by St. Bonaventure above):

Is a trumpet blown in a city, and the people are not afraid? Does disaster come to a city, unless the LORD has done it?“For the Lord GOD does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets. The lion has roaredwho will not fear? The Lord GOD has spoken; who can but prophesy?”
(Amos 3:6-8)

The portion of the Book of Daniel which mentions that its words are sealed up until the end of the world similarly describes the defeat of Satan by the Archangel Michael at the end-time, and states that it will be at this moment that the prophet's people will be delivered. This is the end-time conversion of the Jews during the Second Pentecost, which St. Paul tells us will ultimately bring about the General Resurrection of the Dead (which takes place after the Second Coming and destruction of the earth by fire):

“At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever. But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”

Then I, Daniel, looked, and behold, two others stood, one on this bank of the stream and one on that bank of the stream. And someone said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the stream, “How long shall it be till the end of these wonders?” And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the stream; he raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven and swore by him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time, and that when the shattering of the power of the holy people comes to an end all these things would be finished. I heard, but I did not understand. Then I said, “O my lord, what shall be the outcome of these things?” He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end. Many shall purify themselves and make themselves white and be refined, but the wicked shall act wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but those who are wise shall understand.
(Dan 12:1-10)

So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!

Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?
(Rom 11:11-15)

It is noteworthy that the angel the prophet Daniel sees in this vision also raises his  hand to heaven to swear an eternal oath, which indicates that this is the angel holding the little scroll - the scroll which is sealed up with seven seals. This should thus be equated with the "sealed book" mentioned in Dan 12. It is perhaps no coincidence in this regard that the Third Secret of Fatima was first published at the turn of the millennium - which I believe is a vital key for interpreting Scripture (the key of David mentioned by St. Bonaventure?).

The fact that the scroll held in the hands of the angel of the seven thunders is open, indicates that the seven seals mentioned earlier in Rev 5 has by this stage now already been opened. The text then enigmatically acts as a sort of "feedback loop" here, and the open scroll of the seven thunders is sealed again, and sent hurtling backwards in time to be opened by the Lamb in Rev 5 - an act which sets the events of the Apocalypse in motion, when the nations of the earth are gathered together for battle by the Devil at the beginning of his period of greater power, during the appearance of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.
(Rev 20:7-8)

For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.
(Matt 24:7-8)

The opening of the scroll sealed with seven seals is equivalent to the "little while" given to Satan, when many shall fall away from the faith because of the widespread chaos that ensues.

...because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.
(Matt 24:10-12)

At the end of the "little while" given to Satan, the Devil is cast from heaven down to the earth, upon which he continues his pursuit of the Woman, and transfers his great power and authority to the Beast which rises up from the sea. Although the fatal head wound dealt to the Dragon when he was cast out of heaven seems to be healed, it will ultimately bring about his complete demise - when the appearance of the Antichrist is brought to nothing by the Second Coming of Christ:

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast.
(Rev 13:1-3)

And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.
(2Thes 2:8)

Just as the Gospel was allowed to be spread during the first Pentecost, after Christ had bound the strong man to plunder his goods, so too will the Gospel be able to spread once more during the Second Pentecost, when the powers of Satan are restricted again when the head of the Serpent has been crushed. Indeed it is only by studying the events of the first Pentecost that we can gain a sense of what to expect during the Second Pentecost. Evil continued to exist after the first Pentecost, even though Christ had defeated Satan once and for all by His Death on the Cross, descent into Hell, and glorious Resurrection from the dead. Evil continues to exist after Satan is thrown down from heaven to earth at the end of his period of greater power. As Pope Benedict noted during his interview with journalists during his pilgrimage to Portugal in 2010: "The Lord told us that the Church would constantly be suffering, in different ways, until the end of the world". Evil will persist in the world right up until Satan is finally thrown into the lake of fire, along with the Antichrist and False Prophet, during the Last Judgment.

In fact if anything, the level of spiritual warfare intensifies once Satan has been cast down to the earth, as the Church is now positioned to face its greatest enemy, when Satan gives his great power and authority to the Antichrist. Whilst the heavens can rejoice in the fact that the Gospel may now once again be spread, the inhabitants of the world are warned to be prepared for even worse times, since the Devil has now come down to them in great wrath:

Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”
(Rev 12:12)

As Pope John Paul II once famously declared during a trip to America before he was elected to the chair of St. Peter:

We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has ever experienced. I do not think the wide circle of the American Society, or the wide circle of the Christian Community realise this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the antichurch, between the Gospel and the antigospel, between Christ and the antichrist. This confrontation lies within the plans of Divine Providence. It is, therefore, in God's Plan, and it must be a trial which the Church must take up, and face courageously.
(Cardinal Karol Wojtyla, Address at the Eucharistic Congress in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States, 1976)

When Satan is cast down to the earth, his powers are once again reduced to the level they were before he was granted his "little while". This allows the Gospel to be spread during the Second Pentecost. But the very people responsible for bringing about the new Springtime of the Church - the Two Witnesses, are put to death by the Antichrist during the final Passover of the Church:

And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them and conquer them and kill them, and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.
(Rev 11:7-8)

This directly parallels the events which took place after the first Pentecost. Although the Church was flourishing when Gospel was first spread to the gentiles, it also was constantly beset by persecution - a scenario which eventually culminated in the deaths of Ss. Peter and Paul under the Roman Emperor Nero (the precursor to the Antichrist). The era of peace promised by Our Lady of Fatima should therefore not be confused with the end of all evil on earth. This is an event which belongs solely to the world to come during the new creation. It is the spiritual peace found in embracing Christ that is granted to the world at this time, not the end of evil itself. There will always be tribulation in the world.

"I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”
(John 16:33)

While not everyone will accept the Gospel during this time, the eschatological outpouring of the Holy Spirit will bring in the "fullness of the gentiles", leading to the conversion of the Jews:

Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, “The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”; “and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their sins.”
(Rom 11:25-27)

Since the above evidence suggests that the casting down of Satan from heaven took place at the turn of the millennium (marked by the appearance of the signs in heaven), we are prompted to look for further evidence that this truly did signal the beginning of the age of the Second Pentecost. While this age still obviously needs to come into full fruition, the Holy Spirit may already be sent out into the world to accomplish the new Springtime of the Church. We have to keep in mind that the Holy Spirit works invisibly to bring about the restoration of the Church, and He does so by inspiring each of the individuals who make up the Church on a personal level. Given that this involves a gradual, rather than immediate process, the work of the Holy Spirit is not always going to be immediately obvious to us. Yet it may be possible to find some tangible evidence that the Holy Spirit is already operating in a mysterious, invisible manner to restore the Church, in a way that is fully consistent with the eschatological outpouring of the Spirit described in the Book of Joel.

Since the turn of the millennium, there has been reports of thousands of Muslims turning to Christ after He had appeared to the them in dreams. This new phenomenon, which has been dealt with in several recent books, such as Dreams and Visions: Is Jesus Awakening the Muslim World, by Tom Doyle, directly echoes Joel's prophecy of the eschatological outpouring of the Holy Spirit: "your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions (Joel 2:28). The remarkable feature of this phenomenon is that it is centred on the turn of the millennium itself. While there were relatively few such conversions that took place before the turn of the millennium, we find that an explosion of these conversion stories have surfaced after the events of 9/11 further polarised the Western and Arab worlds.



One further connection between the events of 9/11 in relation to the eschtological outpouring of the Holy Spirit described in the Book of Joel, is found in the Book of Isaiah, which similarly forwards a paradox that juxtaposes a time of great disaster (this time the "falling of towers") with the Second Pentecost:

And on every lofty mountain and every high hill there will be brooks running with water, in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. Moreover, the light of the moon will be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day when the LORD binds up the brokenness of his people, and heals the wounds inflicted by his blow.
(Isa 30:25-26)

The brightening of the Sun and Moon is used in a figurative sense here, to describe the interior illumination which takes place during this period, when people will be able to clearly see the Light shining out of the darkness to the gentiles. An event which is spoken of in the preceding chapter, which also mentions the opening of the sealed book in relation to the conversion of the Jews at the end-time:

And the vision of all this has become to you like the words of a book that is sealed. When men give it to one who can read, saying, “Read this,” he says, “I cannot, for it is sealed.” And when they give the book to one who cannot read, saying, “Read this,” he says, “I cannot read.”...

...In that day the deaf shall hear the words of a book, and out of their gloom and darkness the eyes of the blind shall see. The meek shall obtain fresh joy in the LORD, and the poor among mankind shall exult in the Holy One of Israel...

“Jacob shall no more be ashamed, no more shall his face grow pale. For when he sees his children,
the work of my hands, in his midst, they will sanctify my name; they will sanctify the Holy One of Jacob and will stand in awe of the God of Israel.
(Isa 29:11-12; 18-19; 22-23)

The seven-fold increase of the Sun foretold in the Book of Isaiah is also alluded to in a prophecy made by St. John Bosco, which foretells that the appearance of the "rainbow of peace" (also seen behind the Angel of the Seven Thunders) will take place "before two full moons shall have shone in the month of flowers":


Things follow too slowly upon each other, but the great Queen of Heaven is at hand; the Lord's power is Hers. Like mist She shall scatter Her enemies. She shall vest the Venerable Old Man with all his former garments. There shall yet come a violent hurricane. Iniquity is at an end, sin shall cease, and before two full moons shall have shone in the month of flowers, the rainbow of peace shall appear on the earth. The great Minister shall see the Bride of his King clothed in glory. Throughout the world a sun so bright shall shine as was never seen since the flames of the Cenacle until today, nor shall it be seen again until the end of time...

The vesting of the "Venerable Old Man" of Lazio (a term which St. John Bosco frequently uses for the pope) with his former garments, alludes to the Book of Zechariah, when Joshua the high priest (who is a template for one of the Two Witnesses) is dressed in pure vestments after the captivity in Babylon - which according to the Olivet discourse, symbolises the apostasy foretold to take place after the series of wars and rumours of wars, when the love of many grows cold:

Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him. And the LORD said to Satan, “The LORD rebuke you, O Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is not this a brand plucked from the fire?” Now Joshua was standing before the angel, clothed with filthy garments. And the angel said to those who were standing before him, “Remove the filthy garments from him.” And to him he said, “Behold, I have taken your iniquity away from you, and I will clothe you with pure vestments.” And I said, “Let them put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him with garments. And the angel of the LORD was standing by.
(Zech 3:1-5)

This takes place when Satan is rebuked by God for accusing the high-priest, which recalls both the story of Job and the prophecy of Pope Leo XIII. The rebuking of Satan at this point would therefore be equated with his casting out of heaven by the Archangel Michael. The above prophecy of St. John Bosco is directly related to his March of the 200 Days:

It was a dark night, and men could no longer find their way back to their own countries. Suddenly a most brilliant light shone in the sky, illuminating their way as at high noon. At that moment from the Vatican came forth, as in procession, a multitude of men and women, young children, monks, nuns, and priests, and at their head was the Pope.

But a furious storm broke out, somewhat dimming that light, as if light and darkness were locked in battle. Meanwhile the long procession reached a small square littered with dead and wounded, many of whom cried for help. The ranks of the procession thinned considerably. After a two-hundred day march, all realized that they were no longer in Rome. In dismay they swarmed about the Pontiff to protect him and minister to him in his needs.

At that moment two angels appeared, bearing a banner which they presented to the Supreme Pontiff, saying: "Take the banner of Her who battles and routs the most powerful armies on earth. Your enemies have vanished: with tears and sighs your children plead for your return."
One side of the banner bore the inscription: Regina sine labe concepta [Queen conceived without sin], and the other side read: Auxilium Christianorum [Help of Christians].

The Pontiff accepted the banner gladly, but he became distressed to see how few were his followers.
But the two angels went on: "Go now, comfort your children. Write to your brothers scattered throughout the world that men must reform their lives. This cannot be achieved unless the bread of the Divine Word is broken among the peoples. Teach children their catechism and preach detachment from earthly things. The time has come," the two angels concluded, "when the poor will evangelize the world. Priests shall be sought among those who wield the hoe, the spade, and the hammer, as David prophesied: 'God lifted the poor man from the fields to place him on the throne of His people.'"

On hearing this, the Pontiff moved on, and the ranks began to swell. Upon reaching the Holy City, the Pontiff wept at the sight of its desolate citizens, for many of them were no longer. He then entered St. Peter's and intoned the Te Deum, to which a chorus of angels responded, singing: Gloria in excelsis Deo et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis. When the song was over, all darkness vanished and a blazing sun shone. The population had declined greatly in the cities and in the countryside; the land was mangled as if by a hurricane and hailstorm, and people sought each other, deeply moved, and saying: Est Deus in Israel [There is a God in Israel]. From the start of the exile until the intoning of the Te Deum, the sun rose 200 times. All the events described covered a period of 400 days.

As we have already noted in the previous post, St. John Bosco's Prophecy of the Turn of the Millennium, Fr. Frank Klauder has shown how the prophecy of the March of the 200 Days points to the significance of the Great Jubilee Year:

1. The four hundred "days" refer to four hundred months, or thirty-three-and-a-third years;

2. The two hundred "days" refer to sixteen and a half years;

3. The first "brilliant light" before the beginning of the procession or march refers to Vatican Council II, which ended in 1965;

4. The "furious storm" that broke out refers to the controversies that arose after the council;

5. The end of the first two hundred "days" or sixteen-and-a-half years, brings us to 1982, when the Pope visited Fatima, one year after the attempted assassination on his life. At that time, speaking, in the third person the Pope said:

"Today John Paul II reads the message of Fatima again, with trepidation in his heart, because he sees how many people and societies-how many Christians have gone in the opposite direction to the one indicated in the message of Fatima. Sin has made itself firmly at home in the world, and the denial of God has become widespread in the ideologies, ideas, and plans of human beings."

Before concluding his talk, the Pope recited a prayer, called "apocalyptic" by the New York Times, as follows:

"From famine and war, deliver us.

From nuclear war, from incalculable self-destruction, from every kind of war, deliver us.

From sins against the life of man from its very beginning, deliver us.
From hatred and from the demeaning of the dignity of the children of God, deliver us.

From every kind of injustice in the life of society, both national and international, deliver us.

From readiness to trample on the commandments of God, deliver us.
From attempts to stifle in human hearts the very truth of God, deliver us.

From sins against the Holy Spirit, deliver us, deliver us.

May your Immaculate Heart reveal for all the light of Hope." 

It was at this time that John Paul renewed the consecration of the world and Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, having invited the bishops of the world to join him in a collegial manner and thus complying completely with one of the requests of the Fatima message. Two years later, in 1984, he repeated the same consecration. Events thereafter (1989) witnessed the collapse of the Communist regimes in Eastern Europe.

6. The end of the four hundred "days" brings us to 1999. In that year two full moons occur in the same month, as also in 1988, when there were two full moons in the month of May, as a prelude to the events of 1989.

7. The splendid era of peace, with which "the first prophecy" ends refers to the era of peace promised by Our Lady at Fatima, and which is being gradually prepared by the papal initiatives for the third millennium.

(See full text here)


The prophecy of the March of the 200 Days in relation to the turn of the millennium is therefore made doubly significant in the fact that it is based on the exact portion of the Book of Isaiah which mentions the "falling of towers" at the time of the new Pentecost, when the Sun shines forth seven times brighter - which has not been seen since the time of the first Cenacle in the Upper Room in Jerusalem.

As for our previous suggestion that the events of 9/11 may have been discussed by the Vatican hierarchy as being related to the signs in heaven spoken of in the Bible, we know for certain that Bl. Pope John Paul II connected the eschatological outpouring of the Holy Spirit prophesied by Joel, which is identical with the new Springtime of the Church, to the Great Jubilee Year at the turn of the millennium - which he has called "the hermeneutical key of my pontificate":

"As the third millennium of the redemption draws near, God is preparing a great springtime for Christianity, and we can already see its first signs"
(Pope John Paul II, Redemptoris Missio, 1990)

"What these Popes have accomplished during and since the Council, in their Magisterium no less than in their pastoral activity, has certainly made a significant contribution to the preparation of that new springtime of Christian life which will be revealed by the Great Jubilee, if Christians are docile to the action of the Holy Spirit."
(Pope John Paul II, Tertio Millennio Adveniente, 1994)

I cry from all the depths of this Millennium, I cry on the vigil of Pentecost:
Let your Spirit descend.
Let your Spirit descend.
and renew the face of the earth,
the face of this land.
(Pope John Paul II, Mass in Victory Square, Warsaw, Poland, 2nd June 1979)

It is this new Springtime of the Church, when the branches of the fig tree puts forth new shoots, that will prepare the Bride for the coming of the Groom. And as Christ has told us, the generation who witnesses this glorious Springtime will not pass away until the completion of all things:

“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
(Matt 24:32-35)











139 comments:

Anonymous said...

Awesome, Emmett!
Michael

Emmett O'Regan said...

Thanks Michael!

Ciara said...

Beautifully written and researched article. Worth the wait!

joerusso777 said...

Emmett this is an amazing connection! You truly have been given a great gift!
You connected Babel, to the first Pentecost, to the second. Truly Awesome!
I wondered as you connected those 3 that there is also a similar connection, interwoven. In the case of Babel and Pentecost there also seems to be a spontaneous Supernatural(type of outpouring of the spirit) "event" that first breaks the languages and scatters, to Pentecost, where God unites in another spontaneous supernatural way. Could we not make the case for another spontaneous Supernatural outpouring of the Holy Spirit this time?
I understand it can be said it's happening gradually, it did before Pentecost also, and then Boom! The massive outpouring of the Spirit and a flood of Conversions immediately and then the Church's Passover.
Thanks again Emmett

Emmett O'Regan said...

Hi Joe,
Good to hear from you again! The connection between the confusion of languages at Babel and its reversal at Pentecost has been long understood. The only thing original I have added to this is the link between the numerous prophecies pointing to the turn of the millennium in relation to the Second Pentecost, and the attacks on the World Trade Centre being fulfilling the "blood, fire and columns of smoke" aspect to the signs in heaven. And the only reason I ever thought of doing so was because of Cardinal Bertone's enigmatic words, pondering if the signs in heaven had already been seen in the events of 9/11. I think him dropping this little nugget of information was quite deliberate and considered well in advance, to allow others an insight into the thoughts of some of the members of Vatican hierarchy on this subject. Perhaps even the Holy Father himself.

I think the events of the Second Pentecost are necessarily different from the first, since we can only have only one reversal of the confusion of languages. The Holy Spirit has always been with the Church since the first outpouring of the Holy Spirit. The reversal of the confusion of languages was a prophetic sign to point to the significance of the narrative concerning the Tower of Babel, and the role this story would have to play in the Second Pentecost.
The immediate winning over of "about three thousand souls" at Pentecost that you mention, described in Acts 2:41, appears to foreshadow and balance out the almost exact number of three thousand souls that were lost during the attacks on September 11th. So this immediate flood of 3,000 converts appears to have been a prophetic sign itself, reflecting the 3,000 people who would be immediately lost at the start of the Second Pentecost.
After the instant conversion of the 3,000 people at Pentecost, the process became more gradual; but this was the crucial kickstart that gave birth to the Church.
That being said, I think you dynamite metaphor here is quite apt. We should perhaps consider the events of the turn of the millennium (the appearance of the signs in heaven, and the publication of the Third Secret) to be the spark that lit the fuse. A fuse which continues to slowly burn right now (guided by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit), until "Boom!" - an explosion of converts is won, and a huge haul of fish is brought into the boat of St. Peter.

joerusso777 said...

Thanks Emmett! Good to be back! I had quite the falling away in the last year or so. I was actually quite frightened I may never return to practicing my faith again. Sin is extremely enslaving, it's unbelievable what it will do to you if you give in and stay down for a while. Anyway, good thing is i'm back :) I would like to ask everyone here to say a prayer for me and my wife (even just a quick Hail Mary) for the blessed Mothers intentions for each of us that would be ENORMOUS!
Sorry for the misinterpretation there on where the connection came from. What you say makes total sense.
I also just somehow, some way think God is going to make a big move Spiritually very soon.
Thanks

Peterman said...

Emmett,

Each one of your posts is like a master's thesis. I have to read some, ponder, rest, research, read some more. It's good to know the sons of Patrick (of which I am the American stripe) are still out there writing down deep thoughts about God and bible. This I equate to the modern version of the monks on those isolated islands who hand copied and decorated bibles which were then used to enlighten post roman empire Europe.

Interesting the analogy to the tower of Babel. I have a wise, old, priest friend in Connecticut who told me the towers were modern towers of babel and this was right after 9/11 happened. I was in DC at the time and was supposed to be in the pentagon near the very area where the plane crashed in. For whatever ever reason, that day I overslept so didn't get over there.

Of course, we could pass go, get out of jail free, and collect $100 if just one of the popes had obeyed the mandate of our Lady and made the consecration as instructed. I don't consider the current "bishop of rome" even capable of such a job thus it would fall to Pope Benedict or his successor.

JohnO'

Anonymous said...

Here we go...

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this brilliant piece, Emmett!

You never cease to amaze me! God bless you!

~Hannah

joerusso777 said...

Emmett
I don't know if you've seen the short 7 min video by the Pope to a major Pentecostal leaders convention in Texas, but that video doesn't show what the Pentecostals were doing and talking about at the time.
I will post the full video from Mark Mallets site. It's also worth reading his short post before watching it.
This is absolutely AMAZING!
Everyone should see this! Emmett, I think your writing about the Angelic Pope are very accurate. He's got to be the one!!!!

http://www.markmallett.com/blog/the-coming-wave-of-unity/

Anonymous said...

Uh oh

Anonymous said...

Things to keep in mind:

http://www.aleteia.org/en/religion/article/watch-pope-francis-sends-video-message-to-pentecostal-gathering-in-texas-5878665283895296

Lisa

Emmett O'Regan said...

Thanks for pointing out those videos Joe and Lisa! Besides showing his concern for Church unity, I think the true significance of the Holy Father's words here lies in the fact that he acknowledges that the restorative mission of the Holy Spirit during the Second Pentecost has already begun:

“We should move forward. We are brothers. We should give each other a spiritual embrace and open ourselves to letting the Lord complete the work he started...

I never saw the Lord start a miracle without finishing it... And he will finish this miracle of Christian unity.”

His point of reference his is to the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification published in 1999 - one of Pope John Paul II's initiatives to commemorate the Great Jubilee Year, which he envisaged as the beginning of the "New Springtime" of the Church.

joerusso777 said...

Thanks Lisa. Very good point!
Emmett, I agree with you 100%.
The way I look at it is this. These people have been so set on the Catholic Church being so wrong, that it has blocked any such dialogue from taking place.
I know we can sit here and pick out all the things that they were wrong about, or misunderstood, and should be clarified eventually. I think the real true important thing right now is the fact that this is a major Protestant group, who has finally "opened" themselves to Gods Holy Church. Important thing to note is they are open. They've opened the door and stepped inside.
What I'm VERY excited about is now that they are there, like Pope Francis says, God will finish it.
Emmett, you're right about the way Pope Francis delivered the message. I truly believe, he's going to be the one who attracts everyone home with the love and humility of Christ. We are living in truly historic times!

Peterman said...

So joerusso777 you think Francis is the "angelic pope"? Just curious if I've read that correctly.

joerusso777 said...

Hi Peterman!
I do think there's a strong possibility that he is. I can't say 100% that he is though. I'm not sure if Emmett's thoughts on this has changed since around the time he was elected Pope, but there were a few writings by Emmett around the time of his election that pointed to that being very possible.
I think it's very curious how he's perceived among the masses.
The secular world is very interested in him, Others of different faiths find him inspiring, and those from within seem to either accept him for being a great Pope so far, or see him as fitting their own "agendas" some very cautious and not sure, and others (which seems to be growing in numbers) not following the strict letter of the law (the way he carries himself as Pontiff, Liturgy, all in all just the way they "perceive" what he is)
Sound familiar?
I for one love this Pope! If we really pay close attention to him he's saying the exact same thing Jesus was saying to the world, and his own, (faithful, Scribes, Pharisees)
I think we have the same problem today that the Jews did when Jesus was walking the Earth. This alone tells me personally that some real big changes are coming, just like back then.

Anonymous said...

No, Pope Francis is not 'the Angelic pope'.

joerusso777 said...

Anon. Can you clarify on why you feel so strongly about this?

Anonymous said...

The world is getting darker, full of sin, abortion, changing the definition of marriage,and immorality of everysort.I am a sinner and I try to lead a Christian life but just turning on the TV (or the computer with the adds) is an occasion of sin these days. Confusion and false maxims abound. And now we have a new Pope. There are things I like about Pope Francis--see link below....

http://denvercatholicregister.org/opinion/god-worst-poverty/#.Uw_SYijDPzJ

but then, Some of the off the cuff comments he has made has led to much confusion and false interpretation in the media.Then, there is the repression of the Franciscans of the Immaculate who are now forbidden to celebrate TLM (The Latin Mass) under the Pope's orders. He's not a fan of TLM and he has made some unfair criticisms about those who prefer TLM:

On Feb. 14th 2014 Pope Francis told the bishops from the Czech Republic, specificaly Archbishop Jan Graubner, the following quote:
(the word "it" in the following quote refers to TLM):

"He made a quite strong statement when he said that he understands when the old generation returns to what it experienced, but that he cannot understand the younger generation wishing to return to it. 'When I search more thoroughly - the Pope said - I find that it is rather a kind of fashion [in Czech: 'móda']. And if it is a fashion, therefore it is a matter that does not need that much attention.' "

Here's the link to the entire article:
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/02/important-pope-francis-on-feb-14-young.html

I find him to be an enigma. He wants to start discussions about how to be more pastoral to divorced couples, but the REAL problem is cohabitating couples that don't attend mass or the sacraments, and the fact that 50% of marriages END in divorce. The mass attendance in Churches in the USA is about 25% of those who say they are practicing Catholics...but 60% of them see nothing wrong with contraception, homosexual marriage and cohabitating prior to marriage. And Catholics have abortions too. In Europe I understand that all these problems are just as bad. If this is an outpouring of the Holy Spirit I've got to be missing something.

I personally think things are getting worse. You can tell me I must pray more. I DO!!! I pray a number of hours a day, go to Holy Mass daily and am so distressed at the party atmosphere after it's over--like the show just let out-very few people even bother to make a communion thanksgiving afterward--and these are daily communicants! In TLM it's a whole different atmosphere--reverance, quiet,prayer and a true belief in the Eucharist as the Body and Blood of Christ.This why I (unlike Pope Francis) can see why the younger generation WANT to go to a mass like that. But it's hard to get to TLM but it's what I prefer for those reasons.

Most Catholics don't even believe in the real presence anymore and the children are not being taught their catechism. They don't know what it means to be Catholic.

I don't see the Pope addressing these problems. I don't want to criticize the Pope and I'm not going to engage in responding to other people's comments about mine because every person is entitled to their opinion and I don't want to get into heated discussions. I just personally find Pope Francis to be an enigma for the reasons I've stated. Is he the angelic Pope? I would personally have to see a lot more proof before I believed that IMHO.
Not trying to start a war here..but I do have credible reasons for believing what I believe. And by the way, I'm not the anon person who wrote the comment prior to mine about Pope Francis not being the angelic pope. I use my name when I post.
rose
p.s excuse all spelling errors--no spell check!

Peterman said...

joerusso with all due respect friend this guy is NOT the "angelic pope". That Pope is yet to come and will rescue the Church from the mess that this "bishop of rome" will lead the Church into.

Go back and read the absurd, blasphemous statements francis made about the Blessed Virgin. Then take a look at what he says about the old covenant still being valid, this is directly counter to what previous popes decreed and pure, 100% gatbage.

And another thing, I don't believe for a minute that Pope Beendict wrote a letter to a Andrea Torinelli of La Stampa. The fact is too many folks around the world are now doubting this papal resignation story so now they release this story with Pope Benedict supposedly writing a letter which by the way Torinelli won't produce any copy or nor will he let anybody see. What a crock of bullsh*t.

Anonymous said...

I agree that he is not the Angelic Pope, but it is possible that he converts, as Pope Pius IX did. Then, we'll see.

As of now, there is apostasy in the Church, as Rose is saying. Outright apostasy and the hierarchy is silent about it, from the Pope on down. Yes, there are Bishops and Priests who care about souls but they are few and far between.

The Pope doesn't condemn the evils of the day and call Catholics to repentance. Catholics are no different from the world, drowning in sin and the Pope is writing an Encyclical on the environment. Are you serious? This is the Angelic Pope? I say he's still to come. I'm praying for him. We need him desperately, to get us out of this mess and to condemn the revolution, to set the Church back on track.

Would the Angelic Pope mock the 1,500 year old Mass?! The Mass. Think about that for a minute. I'm a Tridentine "addict" apparently because I'm 16, a young person, and love the Catholic Faith and the Catholic Mass. I have to be helped because I have an addiction. The Catholic Faith is a fashion now? I don't think so. The 50 year-old Novus Ordo is the fashion. And it is, really. It will pass, sooner rather than later, I hope.

The Angelic Pope is supposed to restore the Church, not tear it down.

We got a Pope we deserve because we have a generation worthy of him.

Is this criticizing the Pope? Well, the truth has to be said. The Pope isn't God. It's not like we can't point out his errors when we see them. The errors from this past year could fill up a book, if explained thoroughly.

Keep praying the Angelic Pope comes and soon, for the sake of the countless souls, especially Catholics on their way to hell because nobody is praying and making sacrifices. Nobody is telling them the truth, not even the Pope. May God have mercy on him.

-Hannah

joerusso777 said...

I can understand everyone's thoughts and feelings, and I thank you for your comments. I don't think it really matters if he's the Angelic Shepard or not. He's our Holy Father.
The only thing I will say is this...every argument that has been given can be looked at differently. I never take anything at face value. For example, petermans argument about an invalid papacy.
If we just we're assume that Benedict XVI were forced out, and he never stood up and said anything then he would have to be heals even more guilty for deception. Even if he were "forced" a grave deception is placed on his soul.
I'm not willing to even speculate on that. No way.
Please everyone be careful to not judge before you know every detail. I will pray for all of you, please pray for me as well.

Anonymous said...

I want to add an addendum to my comments. I wrote it because I was personally having a hard time labeling our current pope as the angelic shepherd. I in no way think Pope Francis is an invalid Pope or a heretic or a schismatic or any other derogatory label one could call him. I believe he was validly elected through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and the cardinals. I pray for him daily. And I respect him and his office. But it doesn't mean one cannot express one's concerns. The points I mentioned in my previous post are of grave concern. And precisely because of them I am less and less likely to believe he is the "angelic pastor" that many believe he is.

I know that when the Pope speaks it is his own opinion and he is not speaking ex-cathedra--it's not dogma or doctrine. And, I think as a jesuit, liturgy is not all that important of an issue to him. I also think his Argentinian culture and background influence what he does and what he thinks. Perhaps, like our Lord, his main role is to bring the disenfranchised to the love of the Lord. This seems to be his calling but I don't know yet. I'm still waiting to see. I just have to say I'm disappointed in his lack of enthusiasm for the ancient rite of the Church that created so many saints throughout the centuries.

When I see the adulation of people for this Pope I think of Our Lord's triumpant entry into Jerusalem with everyone waving and shouting Hosanna. But, we know what happened a few days later. I'm wondering if this Pope will be martyred some day. I think Emmett mentioned that somewhere in his blog postings. And, by the way, by writing that, I'm not wishing that to happen--I want to make that clear!

But my own personal opinion is that there is yet a pope to come who will fit this title of "angelic pastor". The jury is still out with me. Now, I think I've written enough for awhile!
rose

Peterman said...

A great point I heard someone make today. They said that they believe Francis will have his "road to Damascus" moment and have a full conversion. I believe this, I think he will and I pray he will. Now many will say "how can you say this, he's the pope!" That's okay, I just pay attention to what people do no so much what they say. Our Lord works in mysterious ways and he might just convert this Jesuit in due time.

joerusso777 said...

Rose I respect your comments and like I said I understand. I also know you're not wishing death on the Pope. I know where you're coming from. All Popes have shortcomings. I think he's got the most important thing for our time and that's a head over heels in love with Christ Spirit. I happen to agree with you on his possible martyrdom. I hope not but it just feels that way.
God bless you Rose

diane said...

Great Post Emmet!

So sad that many Catholics don't understand the Pope. I get him. I think he is the Angelic Pope. He is humble servant of the Lord reaching out to our Protestant Brother. We need to trust the Lord in this whole situation

God Bless You All

KP said...

It looks like things might be moving....

Israeli police were fighting with Palestinians on the Temple Mount, as Israel debates taking back control of the Temple Mount.


"The unrest came as the Israeli parliament prepared to debate a motion calling on Israel to "realise its sovereignty over the Temple Mount."



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26338344

Peterman said...

You're right Diane, he must be humble because he's on record himself telling us as much. True, google it. That's one humble guy.

joerusso777 said...

For if this endeavor or this activity is of human origin, it will destroy itself.
39But if it comes from God, you will not be able to destroy them; you may even find yourselves fighting against God.”
Acts 5 38-39

Anonymous said...

As we see Russia moving troops into Ukraine, would be nice if that consecration had been done no? This is just the first step, not sure if we're in 1933 or 1938 but it's happening quickly. Just around the corner, 2017, 100 year anniversary of Fatima, 500 year anniversary of Luther, 200 year anniversary of mason grand lodge founding in england, anniversary of WWI and on and on. Moral of the story? Obey the mandates of our lady.

Anonymous said...

Martin Luther's ninety-five Theses was posted Oct. 31 1517. The Grand Lodge of England was founded on June 24,1717, and the
Bolshevik Revolution beginning Oct.13,1917. All two hundred years apart and odd numbers with the 17th year. I wander if it means anything. christa

joerusso777 said...

Good points. Seems like the #17 has some significance.

Anonymous said...

2017 will be a time to pray that's for sure. As Emmet has pointed out Our Lord and his Mother operate precisely, down to the day, exactly 100 years later. This has been the case in some of the prophecies in France. As we approach 2017, keep praying the rosary.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to share an interesting website called biblestudy.org in reference to the meaning of the #17. Some Bible meanings this site stated were: 17 combines the #10(ordinal perfection) and #7(spiritual perfection) 17 forms a great factor in the #153. Daniel 7, the beast has 7 heads and 10 horns. Revelation 13 shows again the 7 heads and 10 horns. christa

Emmett O'Regan said...

Thanks for sharing that Christa! There is definitely a special significance attached to the number 17, and we all know how important the use of gematria was to the Apostle John.

jac said...

Emmett,
Like many other catholics I am not so sure that the Consecration of Russia in 1984 was done properly by Pope JPII because:
-The Pope didn't dare to utter the name "Russia"
-The world's bishops were not ordered by Rome to make the consecration in the same time as the Pope, in their respective dioceses.
Of course Sr Lucy said this act of consecration was "accepted by Heavens". Did ever Heavens reject any consecration? Since it didn't comply strictly with our Lady's requirements, Heavens granted the promised fruits but only partially: We got the fall of the Communism but not the conversion of Russia to the one true catholic faith. We didn't get the promised period of peace, too.
So I am convinced that the correct Consecration is still to be done and the remaining time draws near. Sr Lucy warned by a comparison with the Consecration of France's Kingdom as required by Jesus to Margaret Mary Alacoque in 1689. The french kings didn't took the issue with due consideration and the Revolution began in France a hundred years later in 1789 almost day-to-day with the date of the apparition.
So it is highly probable that the year 2017 will be crucial to the world and to the Church, if a correct consecration is not performed within 3 years.

Emmett O'Regan said...

Hi Jac,

I would be inclined to agree with you. Pope Benedict XVI admitted that the prophecy of the triumph of the Immaculate Heart was still not completely fulfilled during his pilgrimage to Fatima in 2010. But as you say, at the same time there has definitely been observable fruits from each consecration - particularly those of the years 1984 and 2000 (which Sr. Lucia stated was accepted in heaven). I think the Holy Spirit has been at work in many diverse ways with each of these consecrations in order to enable the conversion of Russia, which will all come together in the end. The centenary of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima in 2017 is the most obvious date to attempt to fulfill all the requests exactly as stipulated by the Blessed Virgin. I would expect the Church to make some form of significant gesture to mark this anniversary (including perhaps the canonization of the visionaries). We'll have to wait and see.

greatful said...

Emmett.
By far a remarkable intuitive and enlightening work.

It was Aug. 15th 2000, the Great Jubilee & Our Ladies Feast day that I was brought back to Gods Holy light, Gods Holy family. My conversion is ongoing, but the breakthrough took place then. God is good! Your work is spot on. Thank you a thousand times.

Anonymous said...

Sure we know that it will end starting as confirmed by Padre Pio In the three days of Darkness (Worth Reading) - As for the Third Secret this was confirmed By Sister Luis before she died that it was the attack on Pope JP11 I know of no other Fourth Secret - Its of no doubt that at the moment we as Man have plunged into the very darkness of sin and we call it Free Choice - But remember this We win in the end and all we have to do is PRAY FAST CONFESSION DAILY MASS THE HOLY ROSARY keep the Commandments Pray For ALL souls and then when its Our time sit back and enjoy Heaven God bless We win in the end Happy Days

Emmett O'Regan said...

Thank you very much for sharing that Grateful! I had a few personal experiences around the turn of the millennium myself, which brought me closer to God. One of the commentators above, Joe Russo, stated that he had an experience at this time on a previous post, if memory serves me correctly. I wonder how many other people have had a spiritual awakening at this time period?
I think your conversion is complete, rather than ongoing. I assume you are merely struggling with holiness in maintaining the perfection your faith demands, like the rest of us sinners. We can only attain this through the Grace of Christ, given freely to the world through the intervention of His Mother.

jac said...

Anonymous,
The attack on Pope JPII has nothing to do with the Third Secret. There is no fourth secret, granted, but in the revealed 3rd Secret are lacking the "WORDS OF THE VIRGIN", according to the exact press release of the Vatican in early 1960 stating it would probably never be revealed.
Pls let me know: WHERE ARE THESE WORDS?
We didn't get the whole stuff, that's all, probably because they were scaring and not very friendly to the post conciliar Church.

Anonymous said...

Petermann, what was the blasphemous statements made about our Blessed Mother and where can I find this? I'M having a terrible time believing this, but like St. Thomas...I have to see to believe. I hope and pray that this is wrong! Please pray for our POPE!

Anonymous said...

Emmett said:
..."That being said, I think you dynamite metaphor here is quite apt. We should perhaps consider the events of the turn of the millennium (the appearance of the signs in heaven, and the publication of the Third Secret) to be the spark that lit the fuse. A fuse which continues to SLOWLY BURN right now (guided by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit), until "BOOM!" - an explosion of converts is won, and a huge haul of fish is brought into the boat of St. Peter."...

Emmett, its been some time since I posted, your latest writing "The Angel of the Seven Thunders" was linked in the headline at Spirit Daily.

Private revelation does not say the anti-Christ comes AFTER the Era of Peace. How can this be? The anti-Christ appears before God's new Day, in the 6th Day to enslave you, mentally control those who take the chip.

Revealed in the messages, before evil men arrive at your door, the faithful (less the martyrs of Tribulation) will go, guided by their guardian angel to safety, protected at God's places of refuge.

The Second Pentecost, you sound past tense and your words about a fuse, a slow burn right now of conversion? Except the First Pentecost happened in a moment. I agree with you about God the Holy Spirit's "boom" if it is the Warning.

What of Garabandal's prophecy of the Warning and before that, Jesus' words to St. Faustina, the world seeing Our Lord's Cross in the Heavens? Then, God's mercy is poured out, the Warning, this is the Second Pentecost. God is going to show all people personally the Truth, everyone in the world will experience an NDE like life review.

The Blessed Mother to Garabandal's Conchita, when Communism comes again and the world is at its worst the Warning will happen. Are Mary's words about Communism returning, is it starting now with Putin's actions in Kiev?

Satan, evil men and demons will be cast into Hell during the Era of Peace. Only God knows the space of time for the Era of Peace. Then, Satan is released for the last battle before Jesus' return at the Final Judgment.

The evil plans of the anti-Christ happen during the 6th Day of God, the time we are in now. All will be warned by God Himself of the chip and internment camps during the Warning before the anti-Christ comes to power. Trust, do as God directs, go to the refuges. The refuges, reminds you of history, the catacombs.

God's Era of Peace comes after the Chastisement.


God bless you,

Mary

mariana said...

I am still in such awe after reading this article. Thank you Emmett, it was such a great surprise to have come upon it. Comparing the 3,000 souls in Acts, to those in 9-11 was brilliant. I really truly believe we are so close to the ultimate triumph and era of peace. Your connection to Babel and Pentecost and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit during the millenium was so beautifully written, that you most definitely were inspired by the Holy Spirit. There is nothing you wrote that I disagree with. I do believe the year 2017 will be quite significant as Christa points out. And as you know, I am a believer of Garabandal, so I feel that Joerusso's "another spontaneous Supernatural outpouring of the Holy Spirit" may come before 2017, in the form of the Warning and Miracle. I can't remember how I came up mathematically that 2008 was the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation, but between 2015 and 2017, I just have this feeling the world will not be the same. Thanks again Emmett. You really summed it all up quite phenomenally.

Emmett O'Regan said...

Thanks Mariana!

I meant to include mention of the significance of the conversion of the 3,000 at Pentecost in relation to the number of victims of 9/11 in the main post. I have updated it to do so.

Emmett O'Regan said...

Hi Mary,

In each of the legitimate prophecies concerning the Angelic Pope and Great Monarch (who bring about the restoration of the Church during the Second Pentecost), these figures are always directly followed by the appearance of the Antichrist.
However the most direct confirmation of this sequence of events is found in Sacred Scripture itself. The Second Pentecost is established by the Two Witnesses - one of whom is the Elijah to come:

“Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the land with a decree of utter destruction.”
(Mal 4:5-6)

After they have established the Second Pentecost, the Two Witnesses are then put to death by the Antichrist:

"And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them and conquer them and kill them, and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified."
(Rev 11:7-8)

As I've said before, the idea of a future millennial reign of Christ on earth is a form of millennialism (either pre or post), which is in turn a Christian form of millenarianism. Although this idea is popular among many Protestant rapture preachers, and has influenced the ideas of some Catholics, this is not what the Catholic Church teaches. Catholics follow the eschatology of St. Augustine, and believe that Christ already reigns on earth from heaven, since His ascension into heaven to be seated at the right hand of the Father:

"Taken up to heaven and glorified after he had thus fully accomplished his mission, Christ dwells on earth in his Church. The redemption is the source of the authority that Christ, by virtue of the Holy Spirit, exercises over the Church. "The kingdom of Christ (is) already present in mystery", "on earth, the seed and the beginning of the kingdom".

Since the Ascension God's plan has entered into its fulfilment. We are already at "the last hour". "Already the final age of the world is with us, and the renewal of the world is irrevocably under way; it is even now anticipated in a certain real way, for the Church on earth is endowed already with a sanctity that is real but imperfect." Christ's kingdom already manifests its presence through the miraculous signs that attend its proclamation by the Church.
. . . until all things are subjected to him

Though already present in his Church, Christ's reign is nevertheless yet to be fulfilled "with power and great glory" by the King's return to earth. This reign is still under attack by the evil powers, even though they have been defeated definitively by Christ's Passover. Until everything is subject to him, "until there be realized new heavens and a new earth in which justice dwells, the pilgrim Church, in her sacraments and institutions, which belong to this present age, carries the mark of this world which will pass, and she herself takes her place among the creatures which groan and travail yet and await the revelation of the sons of God."

(CCC 669-671)

greatful said...

Thanks again Emmitt.
Our Immaculata is with each one of us, each and every step of the way home.
The end of satan's reign us nearing.

Anonymous said...

A word to those who say or do not say Pope Francis is the "Angelic shepherd": Prophecy is only seen to be fulfilled AFTER the fact. We shall only know after his papacy is over.

St Don Bosco (and others) prophesied that England would eventually return to the Catholic faith -- and an ancient folk prophecy of the English reformation says that when this happens, "the return of Our Lady's dowry" [England and its monarch is again Catholic] --that Our Lady will return to her ruined shrine at Walsingham. The "holy house" and its statue of Our Lady of Walsingham --ancient patroness of all England -- was reported burned in 1536; and the site of her shrine in rural Norfolk was sold and this private estate yet remains to this day in non-Catholic hands. It is a curious fact that today there are three shrines at Walsingham: Anglican, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox--yet none of them are on the original site, destroyed at the reformation.

Yet with with Pope Benedict XVI's apostolic constitution "Coetibus Anglicanorum" came the dramatic inception of the Anglican Ordinariate in England in 2010, shortly followed by the Ordinariate in the USA and Australia. It looks as if the Anglican Ordinariate may be the means by which Blessed cardinal John Henry Newman's prophecy of England's "second spring" of conversion is at hand. In fact, it restores the cultural patrimony of English-speaking peoples in a dazzlingly beautiful sacred liturgy worthy of the language of Shakespeare; which renews as in a new Pentecost the spirituality of the Anglosphere for the good of the church Universal and the world. This has peculiar historical significance as English is now the new "world language"

I personally believe that the fulfillment of this prophecy of England's reversion to the true faith will be symbolized, in due time, when the original site of the ancient shrine comes again into Catholic hands and is rebuilt; and the supposedly lost and burned statue of Our Lady of Walsingham is found in its hiding place and replaced in the new shrine on the ancient site of "England's Nazareth".
There is some reason to think that a substitute for the 11th century-era Walsingham statue was destroyed in a bonfire ordered by Thomas Cromwell in 1536 in Chelsea. and that the original was smuggled to the Low Countries where it will be found in due time, when "Our Lady's dowry" is restored to her.

But we shall only know these prophecies fulfilled after, not during, their accomplishment.

Keep praying --Aunt Raven

Sr. Marianne Lorraine Trouve said...

Emmett, as a native New Yorker I am also fascinated by the connection you make with the Statue of Liberty.
We could also add that the poem on the statue by Emma Lazarus, titled "The New Colossus," also directly relates to the Colossus of Rhodes.
Here is the text of the poem.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities* frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

*The "twin cities" refer to NYC and Brooklyn.

Sr. Marianne Lorraine Trouve said...
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Sr. Marianne Lorraine Trouve said...

Also, the connection of the 3000 persons really gave me pause. I hadn't thought of that!

Also, the Statue's real name is "Liberty Enlightening the World."! A connection to the illumination, second Pentecost...

Sr. Marianne Lorraine Trouve said...

Hello Emmett, Thinking more about your connecting 9/11, here are a few more things.

1. The first official victim was a Catholic priest, Franciscan Fr Mychal Judge. His body was brought to St Peter's Church near the towers, which escaped major damage. It is the oldest church in NY state, and the church where the first canonized US saint, Mother Seton, was received into the Catholic Church.

2. another Catholic priest, Fr Francis Grogan, CSC, was on one of the planes that crashed into the towers.

3. Tom Burnett was on flight 93, on which the passengers fought back to prevent the plane from being crashed into a building. Mr Burnett's story is very interesting. He was a good Catholic, devoted to the rosary, who had a premonition that God was calling him for something special. Spirit Daily had an article about this.
http://www.spiritdaily.net/burnett.htm

4. I don't know if there's a connection, but I thought of Samson pulling down the two pillars. Judges 15 mentions 3000 men of Judah, and Samson ("man of the sun") also killed a lion.

Lots to think about! Great post!

MB said...

Food for Thought?

The overshadowing of the Holy Spirit has been seen to give birth to the Divine in this world; namely, the Incarnation and Pentecost. Each was brought about by God's intimate collaboration with the Blessed Virgin. We seem to be approaching the moment of another Great Birth. For some time, God has been collaborating in an extraordinary manner with Our Lady to bring about this Great Event and to prepare us for it. The Holy Spirit is moving in an extraordinary manner; think about all the modern prophets, the NDEs, those who have come back from being pronounced dead--many with messages of love and hope, the massive conversions taking place, and widespread miracles. And just as there was fearful evil in the world at the birth of Jesus and at the birth of the Church, so there is fearful evil in the world now, even at the door. But just as was illustrated to Peter, we mustn't focus on the waves whipped up by the storm of evil and lose our confidence and faith in God (nor His Vicar or our Church), and sink in our determination to reach with joyful hope the One Who beckons.

I am not knowledgeable. Could it be the Second Coming? After all, Jesus was born in the darkness on the first day of Redemption, He rose in the darkness on the third day, and these are the wee hours of the third day of Redemption...

Another Mary

Chantal said...

I'm also sad, so many don't get the Pope. I do. Our job is to pray for him. This is God's Church, not mine or your.
As for Russia, ever since Putin brought a solution of peace in Syria after the world prays, I've been intrigue by him. The way he stand against the West and upholds traditional values. The situation in Ukraine was interesting, it just seemed that there was information we were not getting and the demonizing of Putin and tabloid like articles annoyed me. I had to to search to simply get the other side of the story. Today, I finally found the translation to Putin's interview. Honestly, Putin seems the most reasonable head of state out there. Here is the link. AS least read. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37889.htm

Dave said...

Emmett, I might add another confirmation to the casting of Satan down to earth being stamped on our time. The successful skydiving spectacle completed a little more than a year ago by Felix Baumgartner, jumping from the very edge of space. In Luke 10:18 Jesus says he saw Satan fall like lightning from on high. Nobody has fallen farther or faster. This event was watched by a global audience.

The name Baumgartner literally means "tree gardener". The sponsor? Red Bull.

When he swooped in for a landing at a run, I thought of the verse from revelation "Woe to the earth and the sea, for Satan has come down to you and his anger is great for he knows he has but a short time"

Emmett O'Regan said...

Thanks for sharing those insights everyone!
The original version of the secrets of La Salette also highlight the significance of the conversion of England, Aunt Raven:

"A great country, now Protestant, in the north of Europe, will be converted; by the support of this country all the other nations of the world will be converted."

Emmett O'Regan said...

Hi Sr. Lorraine,

The "new Colossus" poem certainly demonstrates the intent behind the designers of the Statue of Liberty to emulate the Colossus of Rhodes.
I had thought of the story of Samson pushing down the two pillars of the temple as well, but didn't really know how to tie this in. Now that I think about it a bit more in light of your suggestions, it is starting to make more sense. There seems to be a lot of prophetic archetypes here. As Qoheleth states:

What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. Is there a thing of which it is said, “See, this is new”? It has been already in the ages before us.
(Ecc 1:9-10)

Samson was of course the champion of Yahweh, and in some ways reflects the role of St. Michael as the most powerful angel in heaven. Delilah is similar in many respects to Jezebel, who prefigures the whore of Babylon in the Book of Revelation, in the oracles to the seven churches (which contain programmatic motifs which recur later in the Apocalypse).

"But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols."
(Rev 2:20)

Peterman said...

Sure Anon, I'm happy to tell you where Francis blasphemed God and the Holy Mother of God. On 12/20/13 Francis made this whopper of a statement: "'You told me then - that's what we have read - that He will be great. You told me that You would give him the throne of his father David, that he will reign over the house of Jacob forever. And now I see Him there!' The Blessed Mother was human! And perhaps she would have wanted to say, 'lies! I have been cheated!'.

Who the HELL comes up with something like this about the Holy Mother of God? I'll give you a hint, the answer is in the question.

Yeah, I'm sure Bergoglio, The Holy Mother of God had the thought that God lied. What RUBBISH!

Everyone needs to pray that this man has his road to Damascus and soon.

Anonymous said...

Hi Emmett,

We don't totally disagree with each other, there will be an Angelic Pope and the Great Monarch.
Pope Francis maybe the Angelic Pope, look what is prophesied in the Locutions.org messages.

The Second Pentecost is yet to be, though it is close says Heaven.

The Day of the Lord is continually revealed in current private revelation and sometimes with Scripture reference included. The Day of the Lord is the Warning of Garabandal, the Second Pentecost. The three are the same and take place in this period of time, our times, the end of the 6th Day. God is going to reveal the truth, His plan and show all souls, their lives in review to bring the world to conversion. During the Warning, God is going to "warn" of the anti-Christ. Much of the world, they're not even aware we are in the end times.

There is a millennial reign of Christ, it is the 7th Day. Jesus
isn't coming in His person but will
reign in our hearts and Eucharistically. This is the Era
Peace.

The Eight Day of God includes the final Battle with Satan here and Our Lord's Final coming and the Last Judgment.

The Second Pentecost, the Warning
is the little, the -mini- judgment. God's mercy on the world, the chance to change and for some to find God for the first time.

This has all been revealed so we
can know what is coming and
prepare. Every day Our Lord and His mother with passion (ie: read the messages to Light of Mary) ask the faithful, the watchers, to pray for conversions, because time is so short.


Blessings to you,

Mary

joerusso777 said...

What the Pope was referring to in that statement is the temptation that she must've faced at that moment. Bishop Sheen used to refer to Jesus statement about his cry to the Father "Why hast thou Forsaken me?" As the time God almost became an Atheist! Was he calling him an Atheist? No... It's to show the level of temptation. Temptation is NOT a sin. Neither our Lord, nor Our Lady was spared from temptation, they were sinless. There's a difference.
I sense a hatred toward the Holy Father from you Peterman.

Please be careful my friend...please!

Peterman said...

Joerusso,

Thanks for the concern, I harbor no "hatred" against anyone sir and if I did I would quickly confess. We cannot judge people, we can judge the statements they make and their actions. I've said it once and I'll say it again, this pope needs his conversion experience, while he's alive he still has the chance. This pope is a leftist to the core and here's a newsflash, he can never alter the doctrine of the faith, he can hint at civil unions and Holy Communion for the divorced, it means nothing, even if he comes out tomorrow and says it's now "dogma" it wouldn't be and would changed by a future pope. Have you any idea why the media and the left loons like Kung fawn or this pope? It's not because he's a pious man I'll guarantee you things. \

As Mr. Vennari so aptly said, he's a theological train wreck and I wouldn't let him teach the faith to my kids.

Pray for his conversion.

Anonymous said...

When Jesus cried out "Abbas, why have you forsaken me" , i have always been taught He was referring to psalm 21 (or 22?) To bring the jews attention to that psalm. They knew the psalms and instead of numbering them they would refer to them by the first sentence.

joerusso777 said...

Anon,
That is what is taught for sure, but it is also said that Jesus, in order to redeem all of mankind, had to feel all of the pains and Sufferings of mankind and that this is the moment where he felt the pains and sufferings of Atheism.
Venerable Fulton Sheen would use the phrase I used earlier to make a point, not an absolute. That's the comparison I was trying to draw to the Pope's comment about Our Lady.
If you haven't before, I encourage everyone to Fulton Sheens talk on the 7 Last words. It's a Phenomenal meditation on Our Lords Passion! Sometime soon he should be beatified, just had another approved miracle being evaluated!

joerusso777 said...

Peterman
I hope you don't take my comments as being abrasive in any way. I have that tendency to sound that way. If so forgive me. Nothing I write here is meant that way.
On Pope Francis, I just think we will have to disagree. I think he's extremely misunderstood. I think it was inevitable given the expectations leading up to his Papacy, which causes people to focus on their own agendas, whatever they may be.
The media whether it's extreme right or extreme left points to the separate phrases out of context to support their ideas about him.
I don't think it's him that needs conversion, it's us as a Church. In my journey i've come to understand (in my poor finite mind) the true nature of God from this simple phrase, and I believe with all my heart this is missing from Christianity as a whole...
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments" we should look at that as if we truly love the Lord we won't even have to think about keeping them because we wouldn't dare betray his love. Same as if we have a spouse, we wouldn't have to struggle to be faithful because we love them that much.
God love you

JB said...

Welcome back!
Nice posting... reading it more than once, albeit. I would like to call your attention and that of your readers to an amazing interview with a Polish priest from more or less the same generation of St. Faustina and Blessed John Paul II. At the beginning I though that it had nothing to do with the main subject of this post of yours, but than I realised that what some people 'popularly' know today as 'The Warning - El Aviso' is actually also known as Second Pentecost. I have now listen to carefully this interview for 3 times and I think it nails the subject of things firstly put forward in Garabandal. The main subject starts around 20:05 but I would advise any reader to go through the ENTIRE (>1[one] hour) interview by Father Adam so as to get everything in the proper context of his life and visions. See for yourself... I don't have a single doubt of his testimony's honesty. The link for Youtube video narrated in English:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pWDk7IPbag

mariana said...

Thank you JB for the information on Father Adam, I had seen the video quite awhile ago and found it remarkable. The Second Pentecost supposedly is the Warning and Miracle. And Mary is correct on the order of events. According to the Garabandal apparitions we are in the end of times, still. The new era of peace does not come until after the Warning and Miracle. This event will make the Antichrist desperately more ferocious, and he will lead many to hell. Yet there will be many who will be lead to Christianity too. On Daniel's "7 heads, and 10 horns," made me think of our present day G-7 and 10 nations that includes the U.S. and the European Union. Since Russia pulled out of the G-8, it is now the G-7. I do want to remind you that Bible prophecy tells us salvation does come from the East. So, Russia has a very important role in God's plan. Ukraine may very well be the key to all the change that is coming.

Barb said...

Fascinating! I had never heard of the Tower of Babel analogy and the 3000 people connection.
Thank you for sharing...

Anonymous said...

I have often thought more along the lines that the protestant revolt was a Tower of Babel event and that is shortly coming up upon its 500 year anniversary in 3 1/2 years.

charles

Anonymous said...

A large part of 2017 is the Jewish year 5777. Interesting
? Christa

JB said...

About the Fatima connection, I would like to point out that the Consecration of Russia as asked is still pending just because of ONE reason: 'Russia' must be expressly written and mentioned as of in the consecrational act. Pius XII did mention Russia, but hellas it was not done in unison with the Episcopate. Concerning the missing text (explanatory) of the Third Fatima secret, I recommend the reading of Antonio Socci's book on the issue.The famous sentence 'mas em Portugal se conservará sempre o Dogma da Fé' is still out of context as to today...that tells everything and there is still a cover up going in the Vatican regarding this. I do know a lot about this because i'm Portuguese and have been reading all about Fatima for more than 40 years now. Father Kramer and Father Gruner are correct on this and have thus been persecuted for it. The issue is quite telling because if Satan is so keen on preventing the Consecration, it is because it will be the detonator of its final demise from Mankind History of Salvation. However, the last amazing Locutions.org only confirm that Russia is the key and that given that the Church disobeyed Mary's orders, she is going to tell it (spill the beans :) in the next Locutions....
http://www.locutions.org/category/revealing-gods-plan/

mariana said...

Hi JB, personally I wouldn't depend too much on Locutions.org. I just don't believe Our Blessed Mother's messages would dictate such a pro war political stand on world affairs. These messages seem false, and if it is true that a priest is behind them, then he has an agenda.

mariana said...

First Bishop appointed by POPE FRANCIS removes liberals! Wake up, those who have no faith in Pope Francis, wake up!

And for those who want more information on Russia, Pat Buchanan wrote an excellent article explaining all about the Ukraine crisis. Russia is not the driving force against God.

Anonymous said...

To All Christ believers,
Truth about man made churches around the world.
Many believe the lie, but only few will believe the love of the truth Matt 7:13-15; Matt 24:24.
My testimony on video is REAL.
God sent me spiritually into the great city Rev 11:8. I saw my own spiritual body go into the earth after God anointed me in the river of life.
I am witness in seeing the beast ascended out of the bottomless pit and in spiritual perdition right NOW.
Once spiritual perdition ends Rev 11:9-13, then beast goes to religious leader in Rome Dan 8:23-25; 9:26-27>Dan 8:9-11>Rev 17:8,11;Dan 8:23.
The word of God is spiritual. The prophecies of Revelation 11 is happening in the spirit realm.
When spiritual perdition ends (42 months) then beast goes to religious leader in Rome (Rev 17:11) then all churches of Catholics, Christians, Mormons, Jehovah witnesses on earth shall fall under the rule of the anti Christ, the false lord Rev 9:4,15-16> Joel 2:2-10;Dan 8:23; Rev 16:14; Rev 18:2-3;Luke 21:34-35.
Many believers come out of theses churches during spiritual perdition (42 months) Dan 12:7, And I heard the man clad in linen, who was above the waters of the river, and he raised his right hand and his left hand to the heavens, and he swore by the Life of the world, that in the time of [two] times and a half, and when THEY have ended shattering the strength of the holy people, all these will end.
Who are "They" ? Those who believe the lie of the false lord in churches around the world Matt 7:21-22; Dan 7:25; Dan 8:11-12; Matt 13:24-28
The battle between the tares and the wheat Gal 4:27,29; Rev 6:9-11; Matt 24:24

Many believers come out of the false doctrines of churches Rom 1:18; 2 Peter 2:1-2; 2 Peter 2:18-19,For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption:
Seek God in prayer for the truth. I did hear my testimony on video just Google "Christ testimony of the churches around the world"

Seek God in prayer for the truth. Be ready for Joel 2:28-29; Torah - Joel 3:1-2 upon all flesh: upon anyone whose heart becomes soft as flesh. Comp (Ezekiel 36:26) "And I will give you a heart of flesh." The great outpouring of God's Spirit upon ALL FLESH, "The Sealing" Rev 7:2-3, 14; Acts 2:2-3; Dan 12:10; 2 Tim 2:19; Ezek 9:4,6.

KP said...

hello anonymous,

As a former Protestant, I'm glad that you came right out and spoke out against Protestantism with your initial statement, when you warned against "man made churches around the world."

After all, Protestantism is a man-made religion with a man-made Canon from the year 1517. You follow man-made sects, such as LUTHERanism, CALVINism, ARMINIANism, or man-made doctrines such as SOUTHERN BAPTISTS, ANGLICAN, etc. You accept the truncated Canon of Martin Luther, even though he removed Wisdom chapter 2, which is clearly a prophecy about Jesus that's even more clear than Isaiah 53, and thus means that the book of Wisdom was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Unfortunately the rest of your Bible quotes were irrelevant, because you have no infallible authority to interpret the scriptures. You interpret them one way, Lutherans another, Evangelicals another, and Calvinists another, etc. To my objection you'd say that we don't need a Church, because the Holy Spirit will reveal to us the true interpretation of Scripture. If that's true then we must have a schizophrenic Holy Spirit, because He keeps telling each Protestant completely different and even contradictory interpretations of Scripture.

We don't have to depend upon man-made demonominations or argue for 500 years over the correct interpretation of Scripture. Jesus gave us a CHURCH, not a BOOK; and He promised to guide the CHURCH into all truth.

"You are Cephas, and upon this Cephas I will build MY CHURCH (not "my Bible"), and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it." Matt 16

"the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth." 1 Tim 3:15

Btw, the "great city" and "whore of Babylon" you referred to in Revelation 11:8 is identified as "the city where our lord was crucified." Jesus wasn't crucified in Rome, He was crucified in Jerusalem.

Likewise Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9 refer to Rabbinical Judaism as the "synagogue of Satan." Synagogues are Jewish, not Catholic or Christian.

The whore of Babylon is not Rome-- Christ wasn't crucified in Rome-- but is rather the Rabbinical Jews who rejected Jesus as the Messiah.

Anonymous said...

Mariana:
"The Second Pentecost supposedly is the Warning and Miracle. And Mary is correct on the order of events. According to the Garabandal apparitions we are in the end of times, still. The new era of peace does not come until after the Warning and Miracle. This event will make the Antichrist desperately more ferocious, and he will lead many to hell. Yet there will be many who will be lead to Christianity too."...


Hello Mariana,

In reading the messages from Heaven for a lot of years, the Warning of Garabandal (the 2nd Pentecost) includes another divine help, the Warning is also God forewarning humanity because, a very short time after the Warning the anti-Christ will come to full power. This is why I wonder and no offense to anyone, how can it be Catholic watchmen have two views on the sequence of end time events?

Read ALL of private revelation, that includes the yet to be approved.

Here is a message to Pastor Enoch
(a translation), Our Lady speaks of
Satan's evil coming AFTER the Warning. The anti-Christ is part of the "Adversary's Army."


Mary

p.s. A translation, "the Armageddon" is not the Final battle before the Final Judgment but the battle of our time, during the Great Tribulation of the 6th Day.

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DURING THE WARNING MY FATHER WILL STRENGTHEN YOUR SPIRIT, SO THAN YOU CAN FACE MY ADVERSARY’S ARMY!

25 February 2013 – 7:50 A.M.

URGENT CALL FROM MARY MYSTICAL ROSE TO MARIAN MILITANT ARMY

My Marian Militant Army the peace of God be with you.
Be ready and prepare for great spiritual combat for all the events have begun to unleash it. Have ready and oiled with prayer your armor, and raise the Marian banner because the final battle for your freedom is about to start. Already celestial’s armies commanded by my beloved Michael are ready and aligned. Just is missing militant army to align and thus to begin the great spiritual battle, the Armageddon. If you remain united in prayer with your Celestial Mother and my heavenly army, you will be victorious in the daily combat, but if you let yourselves be divided for my opponent you will suffer painful defeats that will make hard your purification.
During the warning My Father will strengthen your spirit, so than you can face my adversary’s army. Remember that the struggle is not against enemies of blood and flesh, but against the spiritual forces of evil that dwell in celestial spaces, and which have command, power and dominion upon this dark world (Ephesians 6, 12)
Therefore my little children, you will receive from My Father, charismas, and special graces that will make you a real spiritual soldier; without these graces you could not face those wicked forces. Without help from heaven you would be defeated; I remind you that the battle is spiritual and that the spiritual weapons that My Father will give you are powerful and knock down strongholds. I do call to all of you which are soldier of my militant army; be spiritual prepared for the arrival of warning. Praying, fasting, and mortifying your senses to prepare your spirit for this great event that it will change your lives.
In the eternity, I wait for you that together with Michael and the Celestial Army, we will plan the strategies that we will implement to defeat my adversary and his host of evil. Forward my Marian Militant Army, your Queen and Mother and the Celestial Army are waiting for you!
Be prepare my Marian army, that your lamps remain lit with your prayers, so when your Master and Lord arrives will find you awake and vigilant as good soldiers; then be ready for combat and willing everything for the kingdom of God. Peace of God accompanies you, and my motherly protection assists you. Your Queen and Mother, Mary, Mystical Rose.
Make my messages known to all mankind.

http://www.mensajesdelbuenpastorenoc.org/english.html

Anonymous said...

Emmett and Mariana,

You two, be happy you are very good at writing. I left off, didn't make it clear in my previous comment...


Mary
Correction:

"Hello Mariana,

In reading the messages from Heaven for a lot of years, the Warning of Garabandal (the 2nd Pentecost) includes another divine help, the Warning is also God forewarning humanity OF THE ANTI-CHRIST'S PLANS because, a very short time after the Warning the anti-Christ will come to full power." ...

mariana said...

Very interesting Mary. I have never heard of the Mystical Rose apparitions. But they sure seem to agree with Garabandal and Father Gobbi. I just read about a young martyr of the Eucharist named St. Tarcissius. There is a possibility that on his feast day, the Miracle will happen. And as for the Warning, some believe it may occur on the day of the Divine Mercy. We are close, Mary, very close. I do think between now and 2017, we are to witness these events. Many to prayers for our Pope Francis, his sermons have been strongly objected by so many. I feel he is doing, as much as he can, to prepare to what I believe he knows is coming. He's not afraid. He may not be alive for the era of peace, but he is guiding us towards the end of these times with great courage. Communism is back, and he knows too well, the damage it has caused in alienating the Church and its laws from public life.

Anonymous said...

Mariana,
The messages to Pastor Enoc are grave but in those messages, an explanation about the Era of Peace, how there will be marvelous charisms given (January 3, 2014).

http://www.mensajesdelbuenpastorenoc.org/english.html

I wonder the date of Divine Mercy Sunday in 2017. I should look it up. God is so merciful right now, greater than a plenary indulgence, like our soul at Baptism, Jesus' gift on Divine Mercy Sunday.

Mary

Anonymous said...

Hi, it is Mary, I have been commenting about the sequence of end time events. I saw this transcript today so I posted it at Motheofgod forum. I thought it would be good to share at Unveiling the Apocalypse too.

I put in CAPS about the anti-Christ
appearing.

Light of Mary is from Latin America, hence, a translation. She experienced a pre-Warning! And the celestial (asteroid, comet) other messengers speak about at the time of the Warning is stated in Light of Mary's talk.

Personally, I have spoken to my family about the Warning, they do not believe. How about you all?

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TRANSCRIPTION OF LIGHT OF MARY’S CONFERENCE

(PART 2)

March 28-2014

Brothers and sisters:


CHRIST SPEAKS TO US OF THE WARNING:

The Warning has been announced at Garabandal, an event that keeps believers and nonbelievers alert.

The Warning was given to me to suffer in advance, this does not exonerate me from the instant in which I must live it like all human beings. Christ made me understand that the Warning is a product of an impious man who has given himself into the clutches of evil, and it is because of that, that humanity’s wickedness will generate the fulfillment of this event out of Divine Mercy.

This event has a spiritual origin. From days before the Warning man will perceive within himself the proximity of this Act of Divine Mercy. Cosmic intervention cannot be separated, for well in advance, scientists will spy an asteroid that approaches Earth, they will alert humanity and expectancy will be chaotic. The imminence of the asteroid’s route towards the Earth will alert all of humanity. Man will see the asteroid and terror will seize human beings, but that the ever-present Divine Hand will act to blow up the asteroid and it will not reach the Earth, although its destruction will be seen by humanity, some fragments will fall upon the Earth without causing greater damages.

The light the explosion of the asteroid will release will be so great that the human eye will be left as if blinded, a fact that will disturb an already terrified man. Some might even lose their life by suffering a heart attack before the terror that will invade them because of the unknown.

Thus we see that this day all men will know that their conscience will be scrutinized, as the origin of Divine Mercy. After this, humanity will enter into a chaos fatal as never before…

The Warning is not far from humanity, that is why they call us constantly to be true. A very big weapon the devil is using is untruth.

We have our expectations and hopes in the Warning for humanity to be better and we are never more wrong as when we think like this. The Warning is something personal, it is something of the conscience, yes it is something of the conscience. But what will happen with those who have no conscience? They are going to forget and deny the Warning because they have no conscience, they are going to say it was manipulated by the Church or other interests. (continued)...

Anonymous said...

...The Warning is something totally personal, we know that it will take place like a movie for us, but it is not Christ who will show us the movie, it is us who are going to show all of our works and actions of life to ourselves: the good we have done and the evil we have committed, as well as the good we have ceased to do; we ourselves will judge what we have done and how we have acted. We will know if we have done it well or not.

I think about the people who have a conscience, but about those who do not have a conscience for good. Will they be able to see the evil they have done? And will they be aware? Will they accept that evil? They will be able to see the evil they have done and the good they have ceased to do. And there each one will then go about, I would not say judging, but rather that there each one will finish defining himself or herself, to make the decision: evil or good. What side am I on?

In all the corners of the Earth, man’s mind will shake, not out of fear, but out of trepidation towards what he sees and is unknown to him, all that is in motion will fall but the Hand of Christ will not allow lives to be lost, for the effect of the asteroid will interrupt all the systems of communication. People experiencing great fear will want to reach their homes and man will panic; some will lash out against others fighting for the survival of the body and not of the soul. Immediately that light will cease to be that of the asteroid to be Divine Light, in the conscience of each and every human being, then everyone will be taken in a particular way.

The conscience, which is like man’s memory card, for it registers even the most minimal act or work done by him, will make man seek refuge in the face of the fear he will suffer. The fear will be generated by the evil that has seized human beings, otherwise, the Warning would have been mitigated since, as it will be a torment so great for those conscious of Christ’s absence, for those who are not conscious of the Divine Presence within them, will enter directly into panic and from there they will pass the scrutiny of themselves. They will be instants, seconds that will seem unending, and the pain in everyone will be the same as that suffered by the souls in the greatest punishment of hell: the remoteness of Christ, the pain of not having Him. (continued)...

Anonymous said...

...It will seem like hours, but it will be instants and after that instant has passed, immediately the person will have his liberty. It will be an instant, some seconds in which our entire life will pass, all our works and acts before us, except that in those instants we will not have free will, rather we will be before all that we have done. Immediately after the Warning has passed, free will will enter again and many will say: this is a work and manipulation of Science so that we go through all of this and so we do not believe that this event came from God, and continue on the side of evil.

That is why the Warning is a test for the conscience, that is why we must exercise our conscience now. Because it is a test for the conscience of each one of us, it is not something that will modify the course of coming events. What will happen, what needs to happen, will happen. It will be a test, to modify our works and our actions, so that our conscience is greater and is able to understand what it has not understood before, those who freely want it so.

Then the persecution of the Church of Christ will take place, the ARRIVAL of the ANTI-CHRIST will LIKEWISE come about, wars will begin, famines will come and plagues will come, because the Warning is not there to modify the course of events; it is there, I would say, to modify man’s conscience. It is a test for my conscience.

What the Warning will do is make us more aware, so that we see with another perspective. It will help us become more aware of all that is happening. The more awareness we have now, the greater opportunity.

The evil creature of Satan will take his active part within humanity getting all those who are lukewarm to rebel and those who do not believe in Christ to act more on Satan’s side, allowing him to take the reigns on all their works and acts, and the wickedness of the devil will spill in its entirety within men. Bloody instants, grinding of teeth where man will not know good, only and only the Holy Remnant will remain as small lights that illuminate the Earth.

In this moment, do parents speak to their children of what is happening? But these children who are going to suffer the Warning, are already formed and have taken a conscience and a decision that is very erroneous and mistaken. That is why we have the duty to act, now! Rather we are acting late.

I know that the conscience is a Gift from God, but just as life is a Gift from God and man has despised life, so the conscience is a Gift from God and man despises the conscience.

We ask Christ to give us His Word:

“Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them, ‘We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled. He will be delivered over to the Gentiles. They will mock him, insult him and spit upon him; they will flog him and kill him. On the third day he will rise again.’ The disciples did not understand any of this. Its meaning was hidden from them, and they did not know what he was talking about.”

The Word of the Lord. (Lk. 18: 31-34)

Just as all that Christ tells us now and we do not want to understand, so many of the things Christ told his disciples, they did not understand until after. Then we, when we understand, will say: yes, it was true! And we will lament with tears of blood for not having acted.

http://www.revelacionesmarianas.com/english.htm

JB said...

Hi Mariana
I disagree with you that Locutions.org are pro-war and that being 'pro-war' imply that messages are false.
My reasons:
1 - ALL seers I have for 'serious' don't have a spiritual director, something that the seer of Locutions.org does have and which one? - A former spiritual director of Mother Teresa! - So I trust that Mons. and his discernment. ... and he decides what messages to that prayer group will go public. So, the seer of Locutions.org is actually subjected to obedience, something entirely absent from other seers (which of course doesn't immediately imply that they are not true ones). This is not to be simply 'ironed'.
2 - As far as I've been reading them, EVERYTHING told there came to be: the mention of a future Conclave in the message of 1st Jan 2012, the description of the profile of the new Pontiff, the Syria crisis, etc, etc, etc. I will highlight the fact that NOT A SINGLE other 'prophet' ever talked about an eminent Conclave, no one but a few 'Vaticanists' were really expecting Pope Benedict XVI to leave office or either die. Lets not forget this not so small piece of evidence. Some protestants like Thomas Horn did wrote that Pope Benedict would leave office, based on their knowledge of old prophecy, etc, etc.
3- I consider those locutions mostly catechetical and less prophetic, they are an interesting spiritual guide for a life of prayer with the Blessed Mother. Some locutions might be 'political' but they're a minority and cannot be taken out of context, context that points to the Consecration of Russia as the only thing that can change the course of events. The main stand of the last messages is that the West lost its role on containing Russia and this is in accord with the rise or resurrection of a communist Russia not converted! - I have always think that the dismiss of the USSR was a planed move to gain time. And this is part of the plan of the NWO. The NWO elite in the US have plans to induce and survive a first nuclear strike by Russia to US territory. With this, they will get rid of the 'American people' (=patriots, middle class, etc), and think that China will later doom Russia and when this happens they will come out of their underground cities and bunkers. Anyway, I don't see how locutions.org is 'pro-war', our reality is the one that is on the verge of the WWIII and locutions.org is just reflecting it.

And I leave you, readers of this blog with another 'supernatural' SOURCE on this issue of RUSSIA, an interesting up-date. There is another American receiving Locutions that I trust because he already went trough 3 near-death experiences and the last one produced this pack of messages sent to Pope Francis this April: again, the eminence of a devastating WWIII and the need to the Pope to Consecrate Russia. You know,a couple of so to say 'independent' sources from distinct walks on life stating the same.
Here is a direct link to the last message given to Ned: http://www.endtimesdaily.com/messages-1/your-holiness-pope-francis

God Bless

mariana said...

Hi JB,

Let me try to explain to you another version of the crisis in Ukraine, and Russia's role in it. Unfortunately, Locutions.org does not give us a clear view on this matter, and that's worrisome. It's worrisome, because not only is the politics of it all unfair, but I highly doubt our Blessed Mother agrees with the aggressive U.S. role against Russia. Imagine the lunacy of trying to cut off the ONLY Russian warm water military naval port in the Crimea. Do you honestly believe Our Blessed Mother would agree with those U.S. actions, as well as, actions on sanctions against Russia? She would never agree to starving a nation. And this is exactly what our own U.S. President has agreed to do. Why would a priest even take sides on this political issue? Did you know that Russia's Church's are packed. Did you know that Putin is rebuilding those Church's that were destroyed by the communists in 1917? Russia's government laws are changing towards more Christian obedience. And what is the West doing? The absolute opposite. In other words, JB, we are doing it to ourselves. The wars that Israel and Saudi Arabia manipulated the U.S. to get into were terrible mistakes. We are in major debt because of them. The U.S. gov't debt is in foreign hands, over 30% of it is Russian and Chinese. A severe backlash is coming. The victim will be the U.S. dollar and its sidekick the U.S Treasury Bond. The U.S. Treasury Bonds may be kicked out of the global banking system. Believe me Russia is not the core problem, instead, we are our own worst enemies. And all of this could have been different, if we would have avoided the wars, and concentrated on our own hemisphere during the George W. Bush years. We were a strong country then, and heading in the right direction, until 9-11 hit. Unfortunately, we used this event to enrich our oil companies, which in turn expanded our government and brought misery to our middle class.

Russia today, is debt free. Putin is clearly trying to re-establish the Orthodox Church to find some kind of basis for law and morality in Russia because communism just eradicated everything, and now communism itself has been rejected and repudiated by all the people. But you have got to replace it with something. And what better than to bring back Christianity.

The genuine desire for some in the U.S. and Israel to get back to the cold war is something Our Blessed Mother would never agree with. NATO is the aggressor in Europe. Our CIA director John Brennan would be more than happy to start up division, and to hold the power to control as if he were moving chess pieces around the board, except the pieces are real human beings, whose lives don't mean squat to him and his warmongering buddies.

Libya, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... because of NATO's meddling, are centers of illicit arms trade, fueling unrest, murder and terrorism. And now with Russia, we are witnessing the final stages of a U.S. geopolitical chess game that is designed to end in war. Our own government needs for us to believe the aggressor is Russia. Our own government is counting on us to not notice that Russia had warned that such a move on sanctions would result in Russia dropping the dollar and encouraging others to do the same. Our own U.S. government is counting on us being too naive to realize that economic warfare invites physical warfare.

No, JB, Our Blessed Mother would never agree with Fr Esseff's views against Russia. What she would have agreed with is for a priest to point out that a huge amount of human suffering could be alleviated and global problems solved if the U.S. would make a genuine commitment to human rights and the rule of law, as opposed to one it only applies cynically and opportunistically to its enemies, but never to itself or its allies.

The real fight is here with our own government, if we don't have freedom we have no say.

mariana said...

And one more thing, JB, the consecration of Russia did happen, and was accepted. Unless, we understand this we will continue to believe Russia is the main enemy. The devil is very clever. Chaos, confusion and division is what makes him more powerful.

Anonymous said...

Mariana,
You are devout, I am not wanting to argue. Like locutions.org, other current messengers are hearing from Heaven the Consecration of RUSSIA has NOT been done. The Consecration of the world in 1984, yes but Russia was not specifically named.

Besides private revelation, you can see the consecration hasn't been done. Where is the fruit of Russians coming to THE faith? Russian women continue with multiple abortions, in 2013, the ratio, 10 babies versus 13 survive abortion! And Putin's holiness is a ruse, he is going to attack. Putin has already started with the Ukraine.


Jesus mercy,


Mary


http://www.mensajesdelbuenpastorenoc.org/english.html


PRAY MY CHILDREN SO THAT MY FIFTH DOGMA CAN BE ENACTED AND RUSSIA WILL BE CONSECRATED TO MY IMMACULATE HEART!
APRIL 9, 2013 - 1:15 pm

MARY’S MYSTICAL ROSE URGENT CALL TO THE CATHOLIC WORLD

Little children of my heart, may the peace of God be with you.

People of God, fear not, your Mother will not abandon you, I will look after my son’s flock, I will protect you and guide you lovingly on your way through the dessert. Pray for Pope Francisco, to endorse my Fifth Dogma as Mary Mediatrix, Coredemptrix, and Advocate, Lady of All Nations. You must pray much for Pope Francisco, because the enemies of the Church infiltrated in Peter’s headquarters will shorten his days as Pope if he does the will of my Father. My little children fortify the Pope with your prayers, fasting and penance, so he can do the will of God and no evil force can divert him from the path and the mission heaven has entrusted him with.

You are during times of great confusion and division, My Son's Church is divided in two, one side in favor and others against the election of the Vicar of my Son. I remind you my children that nothing moves in creation, not even a leaf, without my Father’s consent. Allow not to be divided by my adversary, be aware that when you pray, you fast and do penance, my Father's Will, will always be favorable to you. I ask you to be assured in my Father’s decisions and to pray much with my Holy Rosary and the Chaplet of the Precious Blood and Wounds of my Son, so that Pope Francisco can guide the Barque of Peter, in the midst of the torrential waters of apostasy and masonry of these The Last Days. Whether THE Vicar and the Church remain steadfast during the time my Father needs him to carry out his Holy Will depends on your prayers.

Pray, little children for my Fifth Dogma to be enacted and that RUSSIA can be consecrated to my Immaculate Heart. Make a global chain of prayer with My Holy Rosary, asking Heavenly Father for this great request. Also pray for world peace so threatened now by the lust for power and expansionism of some kings of the earth. Do not neglect prayers, because you are in times of great upheaval, if you pray, all will be stopped for a while as my dogma is promulgated. If you neglect prayer, wars between nations will come and all will begin to destabilize.

Hence my children, I ask you for much prayer to stop the course of all these devastating events for humanity. Remember that popular saying of yours: ‘one swallow does not a summer make’. Therefore it is important to chain pray for there is strength in numbers, and it collapses fortresses; have faith and trust in God, He is your victory and I am your Captain and Lady, who will guide you together with Michael and the Celestial Hosts, towards the gates of the Heavenly Jerusalem.

My daughters, I ask you to return to the use of the veil on your heads imitating me and as a sign of love and respect for God. You know not how much this mother appreciates this and how happy heaven will be with your act of mercy. Say yes, say that you will do this my daughters, can I count on you? I want you to embrace this, my loving request that you may return to the House of God with a veil on your head and we may worship the One and Triune God in honor and glory. Remain in the peace of the Lord. Mary Mystical Rose, your mother.

Make my messages known to all human kind.

Sr. Marianne Lorraine Trouve said...

Mariana, I don't wish to get into an argument with you, but your defense of Putin is not reasonable. He is a former KGB agent, not a devout Christian, and still has his former world view. His treatment of the Ukraine is nothing but power-grabbing. The problems in the West don't make him a saint. Don't be deceived by him.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/03/07/putin-hasnt-lost-touch-with-his-reality-welcome-to-kgb-russia/

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303663604579503433988345564?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303663604579503433988345564.html

Sr. Marianne Lorraine Trouve said...

Also, the real problem with Russia is that it is in demographic collapse. The average Russian woman has 7 abortions in her lifetime. The government there promotes this.

Anonymous said...

Don`t know if Emmett realizes this, but in observing certain patterns and reactions of people such as Emmett and Michael H. Brown, I am reasonably certain that MHB is somewhat interested in the survival of this blog, and that he will feature at least one of the next three installments from here, at his website spiritdaily.com .

Ph.F.

Anonymous said...

Putin's no more advertising abortion, his supposed change on abortion because he realizes the demographics. In 2013, 13 abortions for ever 10 live births!

Pray and offer crosses for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart.


Mary
+ + +

The Blessed Mother to Light of Mary

March 5th, 2014

...The Horsemen of war go throughout the Earth bringing humanity’s scourge upon it: nuclear energy...

Pray children, pray for Russia.

My beloved, this generation has committed a grave error and a great offense against Me. This grave offense is having ignored My Petition made in Fatima: to consecrate Russia to My Immaculate Heart...

YOU, MY CHILDREN, FOR THE MAJORITY IGNORE THE DEVASTATION, NOT ONLY OF THE SPIRIT BUT OF ALL OF CREATION WITH WHICH COMMUNISM WILL CRUSH THIS GENERATION. Economic interests bend the Nations that are in the hands of rulers given totally to an economy that dominates and does not respect religious beliefs.

I have called you so much to be attentive! And you, My children, have out of human will, given the plan and the destiny of your countries into hands of people committed to the great communist powers. Humanity will see with horror and terror the cruelty of those who without compassion will scourge you totally.

I have called My Son’s Church so much… and have supplicated so much during long, long years through My Instruments, so that the Hierarchy of My Son’s Church consecrate the whole world and ESPECIALLY Russia, to My Immaculate Heart…!

This grave offense rises in this instant over all of humanity, for the entirety of My call, of My Message in Fatima has not been revealed to My Children. ...

http://www.revelacionesmarianas.com/english.htm

mariana said...

Oh, Mary, I do understand your apprehension, as well as Sr Marianne's' disbelief towards Russia. Believe me, my family were victims of communism many years ago, and none of us have forgotten the horror. But I truly believe in the prophecy that Russia will glorify God the most, and in the end will convert the West. I don't know if any of you have read the messages of Ukrainian seer Josyp Terelya, or the prophecies of Vassula. Or even the locutions of Fr Gobbi? You really should.

Also, please go back to the writings of Russian Alexander Solzhenitsyn. He was the most courageous anti communist the West ever had. He was jailed for many years in a Russian prison during the time of the Soviet Union. Then was sent to America. He knew full well, why communism began in Russia. He said, "God was forgotten," which in essence was what lead to atheism and tyranny. He mentioned how the West was heading in the same direction. And we are, aren't we? So, how can any of us criticize Russia, without criticizing our very own Western government and culture too?

One needs to visit Russia, and witness the Christian fervor of its people to understand, something miraculous is happening there. The Churches are packed with parish members. There are priests and nuns everywhere. We no longer have these massive vocations in our own Western countries anymore.

I understand the reluctance to believe that Russia will ever truly convert, but something positive is most definitely happening. I don't know what is in Putin's heart, but I do see a spiritual change in Russia. We must remember that this country is still a young one. They haven't been without communism for very long. It takes time to change the culture of abortion in a country that was so atheistic. But the government is changing the laws on abortion, today. So, there is hope.

As for the consecration to Russia, it has been done a number of times. Unfortunately, it is a subject that has become quite confusing. But I do believe in the letter of Lucia, saying John Paul II's consecration to Russia was accepted. After all, the collapse of the Soviet Union did happen.

I think the errors of today, are caused by our own countries here in the West. We don't need Russia to spread any errors, we are doing it instead quite well. Atheism is rampant, and an attack towards Christianity is constant in the West. Which is exactly what the prophecies said would happen.

I am waiting to see what does finally happen with Russia, and hoping and praying they do end up converting the West. Cause we sure need it badly.

Bless you both. And much love.



Anonymous said...

Mariana:
"But I truly believe in the prophecy that Russia will glorify God the most, and IN THE END will convert the West. I don't know if any of you have read the messages of Ukrainian seer Josyp Terelya, or the prophecies of Vassula. Or even the locutions of Fr Gobbi?"...


Mariana, "In the end", yes, Russia will convert, this is the Triumph of the Two Hearts.

The prophets you named, these visionaries all heard peoples will "convert" at the time of the divine Warning and for some a bit later during the short time of the harvest and during the worst times of the Great Tribulation. Plus, what does prophecy say concerning Russia, about their leader's plans?

In the news, Russia taking over part of the Ukraine, it is happening, remember, Conchita of Garabandal heard "when Communism comes again." Our Lord tells you in private revelation, this is Russia and China. Believe the prophets. Please reply someone to the second and third prophecies I posted here in comments. Like locutions.org, Our Lord and the Blessed Mother's recent urgent request for and their reasons WHY we must pray for the Consecration of Russia (naming Russia).

locutions.org
Light of Mary
Pastor Enoc


love,
Mary

p.s. Here is another message given two years ago about Russia.

5/22/12

message to Jennifer

http://www.wordsfromjesus.com

...Before mankind is able to change the calendar of this time you will have witnessed the financial collapse. It is only those who heed to My warnings that will be prepared. The North will attack the South as the two Koreas become at war with each other.

Jerusalem will shake, America will fall and Russia will unite with China to become Dictators of the new world. I plead in warnings of love and mercy for I am Jesus and the hand of justice is soon to prevail.

Anonymous said...

Hi Emmett,
I wrote this on the wrong blog..so here's the reprint:

I just re-read your post on Feb.21st 2013, (not 14) about the Glory of the Olive and the upcoming pope after Benedict, that no one would expect which, of course, is Pope Francis.

It seems like the interpretations in your posts afterward have changed from the Feb. 21st 2013 post, as you seem to now believe that Pope Francis is the Angelic Pastor--or the last pope.I could be quite mistaken so I would appreciate a clarification.

Being 77 years old (and seemingly good health) Pope Francis cannot in any way be identified as a young pope, as for instance JP2 was when he was elected.

What you wrote a year ago and your response to Sr. Lorraine is totally in agreement with my own interpretation ,which would imply, because of the age of Pope Francis (77yrs.),that he can't be the angelic pope. I know you've written very much since Pope Francis has been elected, and I can't quite ascertain what your interpretation of Francis' pontificate is at this time in relation to the St. Malachy's prophecies. I'm just seeking a clarification here.

thank you!
rose

Peterman said...

"As for the consecration to Russia, it has been done a number of times. Unfortunately, it is a subject that has become quite confusing. But I do believe in the letter of Lucia, saying John Paul II's consecration to Russia was accepted. After all, the collapse of the Soviet Union did happen."

With all the Christian charity I can muster I think you must be the most clueless fool to post yet on this blog entry.

Lets jsut take it from the top "ith has been done a number of times". By whom? Which pope had all the Bishops simultaneously consecrate Russia (specifically, not the world, etc) as demanded by Our Lady? Just answer that first question and we'll take it from there

Emmett O'Regan said...

Hi Rose,

I would regard the St Malachy prophecies of the popes to be among the most unreliable in trustworthiness. They were almost certainly not made by St Malachy himself, but rather someone writing under his name in the 16th century. So I would say that in all likelihood, Pope Francis is not the last pope. There are some elements to this list of popes which do appear to be prophetic "hits" (such as Benedict XV "Religion depopulated"), and the author may have possessed some prophetic insights to a limited degree, but the fact remains that no one knows exactly when the end of the world will be. We can only look to the "signs of the times" to establish our proximity to the end. If the phrase "Peter the Roman" does have any prophetic meaning, then it would perhaps signify that this pope will follow St Peter in martyrdom. But again, I do not place much trust in these prophecies.
At 77, it seems unlikely that Pope Francis could be the Angelic Pope. The prophecies concerning the Angelic Pope are primarily concerned with the pontiff who restores unity between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches. Given that Pope Francis has an imminent historic meeting with Patriarch Bartholomew in his forthcoming visit to the Holy Land, this should provide us with a clearer picture on the Holy Father's priorities concerning unity with the Orthodox Church.

mariana said...

Peterman, take it where ever you want. You seem to think you're smarter than the Holy Spirit. Just read about Pope Pius XII. He told the Russian people and the communist regime that the Virgin Mary was always victorious. He said, "The gates of hell will never prevail, where she offers her protection. She is the good mother, the mother of all, and it has never been heard, that those who seek her protection, will not receive it. With this certainty, the Pope dedicates all people of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin. She will help! Error and atheism will be overcome with her assistance and divine grace." Pope Pius XII was consecrated as a bishop on May 13, 1917 and was elected to the Papacy, and "became the Pope of Fatima." ON OCTOBER 31, 1942 - IN A RADIO ADDRESS, he consecrated the human race to the Immaculate Heart of Mary with specific mention of RUSSIA. On Dec 8, 1942, the Pontiff officially and solemnly declared this consecration in a ceremony in St Peter's Bascilica in Rome. Unfortunately, Peterman you have been conditioned to believe otherwise. You and Mel Gibson.

mariana said...

And the message of Fatima was finally fulfilled through Pope John Paul II's consecration to Russia. The Berlin wall was broken down with Our Lady's strength.

Pope Leo's XIII vision of Satan's 100 years of increased power has decreased tremendously with the collapse of the Soviet Union. 2017 may very well be an important year for the period of peace the Virgin of Fatima promised. In the end, Peterman, her Immaculate heart will triumph. She didn't promise an anti-pope, or a rapture, she promised "the Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world." Well, it's happening.

Anonymous said...


http://www.fatima.org/consecrussia/notobeyed2.asp?printer

I think the above link is the best answer I've read about the consecration of Russia to the IHM and the endless debates over whether or not it's been done or not done.

Seems like both sides have their merit.

rose

Anonymous said...

Any consecration will have its benefits but because Russia was never singled out as Our Lady requested, the burden of proof is on the Vatican to explain why there isn’t peace. Because Pius xii’s consecration of the world in ‘42 to the IHM, with no mention of Russia , without the bishops participation,
was not done properly, Our Lord told Sr. Lucia that world peace would not result from the consecration, but the war would be shortened. In 1952 , Pius consecrated Russia but without the bishops , still no peace.
Simply "accepting" the consecration of the world does not equate to what Our Lady insisted.
JPII consecrated the world with some benefits but still with no resulting peace. In an article in L’Osservatore Romano in ‘82, JPII explained why he had failed to mention Russia specifically, saying he had "tried to do everything possible in the concrete circumstances." This was widely interpreted to mean that he could not violate the terms of the Vatican’s continuing policy of appeasing Russia.

So we know what not to do, that should be obvious. We’re still awaiting for the correct procedure to be done. Lucy said Our Lady told her “She is always awaiting the consecration” meaning it is never too late to do so.

mariana said...

Okay, I guess we can agree to disagree on the issue of consecration. I still feel the consecration is a process that doesn't just magically bring peace right away. It takes time and effort from all of us to recognize that the unity of the Church is important in order for the spiritual peace to reach all our hearts. The peace promised by Fatima, has to come from us by accepting the ways of the Holy Spirit. I'm an optimist, and hope this Pope finally visits Russia. Once he does, according to the Garabandal prophecy, all chaos will break in Europe for a short time and then the transition for the period of peace will quickly arrive after the Warning and Miracle. I am hopeful this will happen soon.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the consecration by JPll was the mortal wound on the dragon's head that seems to be healed.

Anonymous said...

I'm all for hope and optimism but it should be tied with realism as well. You'd think this consecration should have seen results by now, 30 years in the making. If the benefits of the consecration of the world were fairly immediate, with the "end" of communism, munition explosions etc., then I would have to think this peace Our Lady spoke of at Fatima , it would be just as evident. So it was with the consecration of Portugal in '31 had quickly shown the benefits, I would like to think so too on a grander scale for the Russian consecration. http://www.fatima.org/essentials/facts/consecraport.asp

Here's an article which asks the question: why not do the consecration perfectly; what do we have to lose? http://www.fatimacrusader.com/cr96/cr96pg23.pdf

mariana said...

Wow, Anon, excellent point on the "dragons wound!" I believe that to be the case.

Like I said, the Pope's consecrations to Russia is a process, not a one time solution. And we are living the end times of Revelations. God has His plan and events to come about on His time, not ours. So, the change in Russia has been significant. But it has taken time. The Church in Russia is stronger. That's a plus. Unfortunately, it is not united to Rome, and this is the problem. Global Communist's especially inside Russia want the division, because a united Christian Church worldwide would crush them. So, those of us, who constantly deny our Pope's in Rome and their works through the Holy Spirit are actually helping the very same Communists, who feed on division.

This is why the Garabandal apparition is so important. Our Lady predicted Communism would come back. And it has. Our own United Nations is filled with Communists, let alone our socialistic atheistic Western policies. The wound of the Dragon has healed and is fighting to stay alive to conquer the world. The question is will Putin invite Pope Francis to Russia in order to unite the Eastern and Western Churches or will Putin side with Communism? Right now, Putin is being cornered through sanctions and a Western coup in Ukraine. Will he be able to calm the region through peaceful terms? According to the Garabandal apparition, there will be no WWIII. And this is a relief.

So, I feel instead of concentrating so much on whether the Pope's have consecrated Russia or not, we should instead, insist on uniting both Churches. Unity will finally end the Dragon's life line.

Anonymous said...

mariana said...
And the message of Fatima was finally fulfilled through Pope John Paul II's consecration to Russia. The Berlin wall was broken down with Our Lady's strength.

Then ~

Mariana said...
Like I said, the Pope's consecrations to Russia is a process, not a one time solution. And we are living the end times of Revelations. God has His plan and events to come about on His time, not ours. So, the change in Russia has been significant.

Mariana, I love you sister but which is it? You don't comment on the three current private revelations I posted about Russia, the need for the Consecration to be DONE and the grave reason why. The evil power in Russia has not changed. There has been no Catholic conversion of the people either.

And previously, others shared a fourth, the Blessed Mother asking Russia to be consecrated in the Locutions.org messages.

Mariana, see, this is the same reason for those declaring the Era of Peace comes before the anti-Christ. This group will not consider as being true, current private revelation. Take the good from the approved by the Church and the good from most all of current private revelation at present, the yet to be approved.

You speak of the yet to be approved but for the Consecration has already been done business. An example, you believe Garabandal, of the coming divine Warning. The Warning happens BEFORE the appearance of the anti-Christ. It fits, the anti-Christ appears a short time after the Warning. People will not be surprised for God will warn all souls on earth of the anti-Christ in the Warning.

To follow, the world goes through the Great Tribulation and the Chastisement, then, the new time, the Era of Peace. This is God's prayer, on earth as it is in Heaven period, the 7th Day.

It is hard to change people's minds. Our nature, everyone stays with their set belief. Hey, exceptions, what about the Swedish pastor of a mega-church converting to Catholicism? Alleluia!!!

The Great Warning of Garabandal is going to be astounding, breathtaking. It has to be.


Mary

mariana said...

You got it sista! The Warning will be breathtaking! Mary, sorry about not being too clear on explaining the consecration to Her Immaculate Heart. So let me try through Fr Gobbi's interpretations. According to Father Gobbi, "the act of consecration to the Immaculate Heart must always be renewed." I believe he really defines it so beautifully. Essentially every consecration is good including the one's our Pope's have done for Russia. Pope John Paul II's consecration fulfilled Our Lady's mission of renewal by collapsing the Soviet Union. She helped Pope John Paul II bring communism to an end in Eastern Europe, and she saved his life from the vision Lucia had in the third secret.

Now it is up to us to continue growing in the life of consecration to her Immaculate Heart. You see, again, it's a process that depends on us. Unfortunately, there is still great stubborn division against our Church. Human beings have hard hearts, and are skeptical of the ways of the Holy Spirit. They have very little faith. Because of this continuous confusion inside and outside of our Church, the Warning and Miracle must come. It's how I see it. Our Lady is giving us another chance for peace and unity. When the Warning and Miracle happen, few will complain about our Pope's, Vatican II, and there will be a general unity between all the Christian Churches.

As far as the antichrist is concerned, after the Warning and Miracle, we will see according to Fr Gobbi, the manifestation of the antichrist as a person. All will know exactly who to choose. There will no longer be any confusion. In other words, for those who choose Satan, they will know they choose evil over good. Depending on how humanity chooses in the end, depends on whether the Chastisement is mitigated.

Father Gobbi correctly mentions three elements we all must follow in order for the era of peace to come. 1). Commitment to live our baptism in the observance of the commandments of God. 2). Commitment to be UNITED to the POPE and to the BISHOPS and PRIESTS who are UNITED to the POPE, in order to remain always in the true faith. 3). Commitment to spread the word, evangelize to the world. How many Catholics today are obeying these commitments? How many are not following our Pope today? It is not up to us to choose whether we as Catholics should obey our Pope or not. We must choose to obey and pray for our Pope, as all her approved apparitions say, and we must choose the means which Our Lady tells us by the Rosary, Penance, and the Eucharist. Her promises if we do all of this is to protect us from the fire of the chastisement.

Mary, as far as Locutions.org, it is going to be condemned very soon. The messages are very much like the current condemned Maria Divine Mercy messages. If there is a real Fr Essef, he is writing very ill of our Pope Francis, and naming politicians and so forth. Our Blessed Mother would never communicate hateful messages like those. We must be prudent and always obey the directives of the Church. Today, unfortunately, there is an invasion of false visionaries and false messages.

mariana said...

Also, Mary, Fr Gobbi gives us an incredible view on what the mystical antichrist is in the end of this era.

He mentions the 3 attacks on historical periods by the antichrist. The first one was Islamism against Christianity. The second one was the triumph of rationalism in the XIII century. From here stemmed the division of the Church, with all the Protestant sects which were formed. And the third attack was theoretical atheism which was Communism. And today it is practical atheism which has spread throughout humanity. Practical atheism is our secularized world. The division between public and private, sacred and secular, forces a theology whereby God is largely absent, unknown in the public arena, and silent unless spoken to.

Now, Mary, Fr Gobbi insists that it is during the end of our current period of practical atheism that this person of the antichrist comes. Gobbi said, "However, as a person, he will not come suddenly, but rather his coming will be the fruit made ripe by all this historical context which has prepared it."

So, who today, is powerful enough in the world to support and want to dominate through practical atheism? Who has moved away from God? Who again has become pagan, materialistic, pro abortion, pro cloning, pro war? Who is against the Church?

"It is this person who has formed a cohort of all levels, one could say even at the ecclesiastical level, through masonic forces," which include the force of the media. Who can be this powerful that he dominates all of these levels?

Anonymous said...

Marianna said :” I still feel the consecration is a process that doesn't just magically bring peace right away. It takes time and effort from all of us to recognize that the unity of the Church is important in order for the spiritual peace to reach all our hearts...” Jesus, Himself, has told us, through the Message of Fatima, that the conversion of Russia will not come through a Miraculous Image of Our Lady or by the pilgrimage of the Russian people to a Marian Shrine, but, rather, it will come through the solemn public Act of Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by all the bishops of the world joining the Pope on one specific day. It is not going to come about through a long , drawn out period of time. It will come about by an obvious and direct action on the pope’s and bishops part. There is the promise of peace to follow the proper consecration of Russia and it is not going to be for Russia alone, but the whole world: "a period of peace will be granted to the world," pledged Our Lady from Heaven.

In response to Sister Lucy's question why He would not convert Russia without the Holy Father consecrating that nation to His Mother's IH, Our Lord replied "Because I want My whole Church to acknowledge that consecration as a triumph of the IHM so that it may extend its cult later and put the devotion of the IH beside the devotion to My Sacred Heart." Has the church acknowledged this triumph is a result of a ceremony 30 years ago? Our Lord said that “ He wanted His whole church to acknowledge the triumph of IHM”, then how is the world to know that this conversion of Russia was a result of this consecration of the world 30 years ago? ( some say Russia has converted but just not to catholicism) Think about it. Let’s say it takes another 10 years for Russia to become catholic. No one in their right mind would attribute this ‘miracle’ of a conversion to the likes of a consecration 40 years later , because a miracle should be instantaneous or spontaneous , capable of being directly linked to an action by the clergy. Just like the consecration of Portugal had immediate results and was deemed ‘ Our Lady’s showcase’, Fatima’s promise of a world peace due to the conversion of Russia is not present nor even remotely evident.

If I go to Lourdes and pray for a miracle for a malady, bathe in the miraculous waters of the spring , hoping for a miracle but no cure until 5 years later, how am I or anyone else to believe this was a result of my pilgrimage there?

The clue to all this was when Our Lord appeared to St. Margaret Mary Alacoque on June 17, 1689 . The King of France failed to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart as Our Lord had commanded in His apparition to St. Margaret Mary. A succession of subsequent French kings also failed to follow this command. One hundred years to the day after that apparition—on the 17th of June 1789—King Louis XVI of France was stripped of his power by the Third Estate and four years later he was guillotined. His attempt to consecrate France in his jail cell while he awaited execution was too little, too late; it was not the solemn public act that Our Lord had commanded so that the whole world would know that His power had saved France. Compare it to our modern church; is it coincidental?

This is how serious this act is to require the correct attention. My guess is this warning is an indication of how extreme Our Lord is when it comes to following instructions to the tee. It is actually more than just a warning-it is a glimpse into the future. I believe this is what it will take to force the pope to make this work. The passive manner in which this consecration of the world in ‘84 occurred is to illustrate the condition of Our Lord’s church currently is, when He says he will vomit out of His mouth those who are lukewarm.

joerusso777 said...

Anon,
The best argument I've heard (example of the Sacred Heart) I've heard yet!
I'm not sure what you were implying in the end though.
Maybe saying our Popes have been Lukewarm. I'd be careful there. We don't know what's going on in the Vatican itself. Obviously the Communist infiltration in the Church has made a huge mess.
Just like our Lady said it would.

Anonymous said...

@ Emmett
You write: "but the fact remains that no one knows exactly when the end of the world will be. We can only look to the "signs of the times" to establish our proximity to the end."

Yes. But would you not agree that the birth of one particular creature certainly signifies the beginning of the end of the mortal age. And it seems that the appearance of this creature into human history is so significant, and so terrifying, that even a Holy Apostle would wish us to know of his birth.

Do consider that this creature is now among us, (born last year, perhaps, and to a woman of Jewish descent); and in any case, all those who write authoritatively on eschatological matters of this kind, who may be adept in interpreting the 'signs of the times', should consider the portents in regard to his appearance also, and the affect of his very existence on the affairs of this world.

This young man, (who it seems will survive what is to come), will be one of the most charismatic in the history of the human race: he will deceive even the elect. And perhaps because of another old prophecy retained in the Church's institutional memory, that has [falsely] withstood the test of time.

Peterman said...

Mariana (and anyone else here foolish enough to believe the consecration was done already). What was the promise of our Lady? A: Russia would convert and peace would reign. Now, can we agree this is was said at Fatima? I think anyone reasonable can agree that this is in fact what Our Lady said.

So now that we've established this FACT, where Mariana is the peace? Does Putin seem like a peaceful guy to you? C'mon people, wake up and smell the coffee, the consecration as demanded by Our Lady was NEVER made and thus we have no peace and we're REALLY going to have no peace in a couple of years based on the way things are in eastern Ukraine today.

mariana said...

Peterman read www.spiritdaily.com. Michael Brown writes an interesting article on the consecration of Russia and its outcome. Our Lady's message once the consecration to Russia was done promised a "period" of peace, not an era of peace. And after Pope John Paul's consecration there was a "period" of peace. For pete's sakes, Peterman, Eastern Europe was saved from Communism, and it was done without a gunshot blown. Instead of smelling the coffee, why not drink the coffee to wake up. Sr Lucia said the consecration was accepted in Heaven. She even wrote it and signed it in black and white. The era of peace, will not come till after the Warning and Miracle. And we don't know how long after the Warning and Miracle will this era finally arrive.

mariana said...

Anon, why do you think the creature is not an adult and already a world leader today?

Emmett O'Regan said...

I was wondering that myself... Of course if the Antichrist is in the world today, then we know that the end is very near indeed. I believe it is quite possible that the Antichrist is already among us. My point was that it is not given to us to know exact dates. But we can certainly be sure of proximity of the end, and that it is almost upon us. Once the conversion of the Jews takes place during the ministry of the Two Witnesses, along with the conversion of Russia, England, etc., the Antichrist will come to centre stage.

Anonymous said...

mariana,
There were posted four current, present day messengers to show all of them heard the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary has NOT been done yet.

Pass these four links on to watchmen, prayer warriors.

to Jennifer in the U.S.
http://www.wordsfromjesus.com/

http://www.locutions.org/

to Pastor Enoc
http://www.mensajesdelbuenpastorenoc.org/english.html

to Light of Mary
http://www.revelacionesmarianas.com/english.htm

Here is a fifth! And the message explains clearly about the Pope John Paul II's Consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Let us unite our rosaries for Pope Francis, that he require the bishops of the world to do as the Blessed Mother asks, consecrate
Russia.

Mary

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Messages to Cletus and Vern

GOD SPEAKS WILL YOU LISTEN

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen

09/25/07

My son, there is much fighting in my church regarding the consecration of Russia.
Many older prophecies were given regarding a communist led war which resulted in the destruction of much of Europe, including the Vatican. Documents released in your media verify these war plans. But my people forget one important factor in this discussion: God. I alone govern the universe and the affairs of mankind. I even govern the affairs of hell. Nothing happens without my will being done. Do you even think one moment, I am going to give glory to Satan and man’s pride? Remember Isaias 42:8: I, the Lord: this is my name. I will not give my glory to another, nor my praise to graven things. My son, John Paul II consecrated the world to the Immaculate heart of Mary, as you already know. Do you not think my son, these consecrations bore no fruit? For I the Lord God Almighty creator of heaven and earth prophesy to you: The result of the consecration of the world to my son’s mother Mary had two effects. It interrupted and changed the plans of masonic communistic forces and it gave the world an extended period of my mercy. Do you truly think a consecration to the Mother of Mercy would
have no effect? It allowed more souls to enter my kingdom. Do not forget my primary purpose is the salvation of my children. If you remember this my son, world events will make sense to you. Look at events from the eyes of your Father in heaven, not with your human eyes and understanding. My son at Fatima, my daughter Mary asked explicitly for the consecration of Russia by the Pope and the bishops of the world. This event has NOT taken place as asked by my daughter Mary. If it had my son, the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary would have already taken place. You would already be living in the era of peace. It is evident there is no peace in your world. Only a blind man would make such a statement.
My son, mankind has not responded to my mercy. Mankind has increasingly
become more evil and sinful. A day will soon arrive which will cause my wrath to
chastise my children. Again, I say these words not to frighten, but to wake up my
children. If you live in my peace, there truly is nothing to fear. Again, only the ungodly and lukewarm need to fear. My son, the Masonic communistic forces are again starting to rise in your world. The forces of Islamic terrorism, communism, and practical atheism are being used by Satan to cause another World War. For I the Lord prophesy to you again: If mankind refuses my mercy, another World War will be allowed and the man of sin will be allowed to chastise the ungodly and sinner. Read these words carefully. I am allowing these events because of my people rejecting my mercy. Where are the prayers, penances, and masses being offered in reverence for my honor and glory? Why do my people reject prayer and fasting to bring about my continual mercy on your world? ...

Anonymous said...

continued ~

...Do you not see my
hand in the weather changes and natural disasters occurring on your planet? Isaias 45:12, 18. I made the earth: and I created man upon it. My hand stretched forth the heavens: and I have commanded all their host. For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens, God himself that formed the earth and made it, the very maker thereof, who did not create it in vain, who formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is no other. Remember stop trying to figure out the mind and purposes of the Almighty. Seek not the things that are to high for thee, and search not into things above thy ability: but the things that God hath commanded, think on them always, and in many of his works be not curious. Ecclesiasticus 3:22. But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, for I am the Lord that exercise mercy and judgment and justice in the earth: for these things pleases me, saith the Lord. Jeremiah 9:24. What did my son command you to do above all other things? Love your God and your neighbor. Are you truly fulfilling these two commandments? If not, repent of your sins. My son, while my people argue over the validity of the consecration of Russia, many souls are going to hell. Do not allow yourself to be caught in Satan’s trap. The consecration has NOT taken place. It will take place. The message of Fatima was primarily concerned with repentance and the salvation of souls. The consecration of Russia is a message addressed to the Pope and bishops of the world. Pray my Holy Spirit will give the Holy Father the strength and wisdom to overcome the forces fighting against him. My son, I am gong to tell you why the consecration of Russia has NOT yet taken place. My church was not purified of the evil forces hiding among the clergy. Remember the Pope
and bishops of the world are required to make the consecration. In the past, there were to many Bishops who were rebellious against the Holy Father for the consecration to have taken place. My Holy Spirit has led the holy Father to purify my house. Once my church is purified and my house is in order, you will see the consecration of Russia done. As you have read, my son told Sister Lucy it would be DONE LATE. ...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen

Anonymous said...

"Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnost and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years. They are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep. We want to accomplish three things:
One, we want the Americans to withdraw conventional forces from Europe. Two, we want them to withdraw nuclear forces from Europe. Three, we want the Americans to stop proceeding with Strategic Defense Initiative."
"We are moving toward a new world, the world of Communism. We shall never turn off that road." Mikhail Gorbachev : General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the last head of state of the USSR (1985-1991) Date: November 1987 Source: speech to the Soviet Politburo, November 1987
The ‘changes’ in Soviet Russia must be understood according to what Gorbachev called the Leninist ‘method of dialectical cognition’. Yelena Bonner, widow of the late Andrei Sakharov, a well known Russian anti-Communist dissident, explains a key to understanding all Communist/Leninist/Marxist statements as follows: "The point is that the Communist goal is fixed and changeless — it never varies one iota from their objective of world domination, but if we judge them by the direction in which they seem to be going, we shall be deceived."
The ‘collapse of Communism’ and the ‘demise’ of the ‘former’ Soviet Union were staged events of the Leninist world revolution, planned decades in advance.
Our Lady told Lucy that world peace would be the result of the consecration of Russia. How many wars and skirmishes were going on during this time?

Was this a true peace from heaven? Has Putin repudiated communism? The tomb of Lenin is still centered in Red Square. I sincerely doubt that communism disappeared but had gone underground. It would give pause to the ‘conclusion’ that JPII had anything to do with this collapse. Don’t forget the statements made by defectors from behind the Iron Curtain, that this has been orchestrated to fool the west.

mariana said...

Emmett, I really believe in Fr Gobbi's locutions. His "Marian Movement of Priests" today is approved by the Church in every part of the world, they now have over 350 Bishops, 150,000 priests, and millions of faithful from every part of the world who adhere to this Movement.

The "Interview with Father Stefano Gobbi" on August 4-5, 1999, addresses many questions concerning the messages he received from Our Blessed Mother from 1973 to 1997. The videotape or pamphlet of this interview may be obtained from the National Headquarters of the Marian Movement of Priests in St Francis, Maine. Email:mmp@mmp-usa.net
Website:www.mmp-usa.net

Fr Gobbi refers to the End of Times to these present times we live today. This will be then the end of these times possessed by evil, in order to begin the new times possessed by God in which He will be glorified."

But Fr Gobbi is very clear, that these times are not the end of the world times. "the "End of the World" means that there will be the final judgment; both the world and time will no longer exist. After the final judgment there will be the resurrection of the body: paradise for the good and hell for the evil."

Fr Gobbi believed the tribulation is what we are living today, at the level of the Church and of humanity. And "the triumph of Jesus in glory will occur when He will give a glorious manifestation of Himself which will be visible to all. This will coincide with the great triumph of the divine mercy: a Second Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit will transform the hearts and souls of all, who will see themselves in the light of divine truth, bringing them to convert and return to God." Now this sounds to me like the Warning and Miracle of Garabandal.

Fr Gobbi reminds us this Second Pentecost will coincide "with the fulfillment of the divine Will upon this earth, and above all with the triumph of the Eurcharistic reign of Jesus."

So, "if we are waiting for our society to finally know what it has never known until now: a new way of living in communion, a new way of living in peace, a new way of living in peace, a new way of living in love. It will know the new civilization of love." This is the era of peace we will experience for may be for many centuries to come. We really don't know for how long.

Before this manifestation of Jesus to occur, we have the mystical antichrist which oppose Christ in these times. Even in the time when Jesus lived, the antichrist was present. Today, the antichrist forces are most strong through the masonic spread of denying God through atheism. At the end of this period of atheism, there will be the manifestation of the antichrist as a person.

I do believe he exists today, and since I believe in the Garabandal messages, the fight against him and his cohort of atheism is very much alive today.

We will see the antichrist as a person, if not already, after the Warning and Miracle, which Fr Gobbi calls it an "extraordinary event and sign, that could also be considered as a chastisement due to sin and evil. The Lord will allow this event, which can be one of purification and of chastisement, it is so that all humanity may come back to his merciful arms." Fr Gobbi believed that the triumph of the divine mercy will be an almost general triumph, including all those who have moved away from God through no fault of their own.

According to Fr Gobbi, today, we are experiencing the end of times, not the end of the world. We are preparing for an era of peace. And today's antichrist as a person, is not the one at the end of the world. Remember we have had many antichrists in the past history. The one at the end of the world will be Satan incarnate.

Anonymous said...

mariana said:
"According to Fr Gobbi, today, we are experiencing the end of times, NOT the end of the world. We are preparing for an era of peace. And today's antichrist as A PERSON, is NOT the one at the end of the world. Remember we have had many antichrists in the past history. The one at the end of the world will be Satan incarnate."

Emmett, yes, the anti-Christ in this the end times we're in, the 6th Day, is a person.

We all love you and your wonderful
blog, you share so much about the
words of the saints that we wouldn't know! You are articulate
and so is mariana. She briefly shared the order of events revealed in prophecy. Mariana, is ONLY off on whether Russia has been consecrated. She is stuck. Five private revelations stating the fact that it hasn't, I hope another one, the message to Cletus and Vern helped.

The difficulty IS how in the world
can Catholics have TWO views of the
sequence of the end times and the times after, the Millennium and the 8th Day? As Catholic watchers, we should be agreeing because of prophecy, the messages from Heaven (private revelation).

You have to have faith and take the
good from ALL private revelation, that includes 99% of the present day messages from Heaven. The yet
to be approved. The Church can't
approve the current because we are so close to divine events prophesied, meaning what is written in the messages, especially the major divine intervention (the Warning, the Great Miracle) has yet to happen.

Start checking the current daily
messages from Heaven.

http://www.afterthewarning.com/
Yahoo Groups - Seers 2


thank you both, Emmett and dearest mariana,


Mary

Peterman said...

Mariana, you call then call the Blessed Virgin a liar, you are either ignorant of the facts (which we know you aren't because several have presented them to you here), or you're a fool. I have no more typing to waste on a fool.

joerusso777 said...

Peterman...do you really have to be that way? We get that you disagree, and that's fine, but what is your deal?

Anonymous said...

Two things that I would like to share regarding the consecration. The first is that when asked what "Russia would be converted" meant Sr Lucy said nothing short than the wholesale conversion of Russia to Roman Catholicism. Russia's population today is nearly 145,000,000 people of whom roughly 500,000 are Catholic. You be the judge.
Secondly, many question the time frame. I am just returning from Mexico and although I did not visit Guadalupe (a regret now) I think that we can use what happened there as an example. Within 10 years , 9 million people converted to Catholicism. NINE. MILLION.

mariana said...

So, then Anon did Pope Benedict deceive the world in this matter on June 26, 2000, and ever since, on Sr Lucia's reassurance that the consecration was accepted? Because if you are correct, then our Popes including Benedict have deceived us.

And I will not go there. Unfortunately, the Mel Gibson's of our Church, are more than happy to speak ill of our Pope's. And this subject of whether Russia was properly consecrated by our Pope's or not, gives them the ammunition to make us doubt our own Pope's and their authority.

"The unbloody revolution of the nineties, that reversed the bloody revolution of 1917, should convince even the worst skeptic that Mary's promise of Russia's conversion is being fulfilled."

And as far as Guadalupe, yes, miraculously 9 million people converted in Mexico. They consecrated themselves to her Immaculate Heart, and it took 10 years. So, it is taking Russia and the rest of the world longer to finally make that complete commitment. In this society, in which atheistic Communism/Socialism is so diffused, Our Lady says to us: "My children, you are already consecrated to the Lord - you belong to Him." Unfortunately, it's taking time for some of us to figure that out, let alone accepting it. In our own Church, we have division. The Pope's have not only consecrated Russia, but the entire world. And we still have the Mel Gibson's arguing against the Popes! Should the question of whether Russia was consecrated correctly be the only focus? Or is this just an excuse used in order to avoid the real problems in our world today?

If some of us can accuse our Pope's of deceiving us about the consecration of Russia, then, some of us are not letting Mary lead us to live as she does. And there lies the problem.

It's always about knowing Him, serving Him, loving Him, enjoying Him, and OBEYING HIM. We obey and believe our Pope's. This is what our magisterium tells us to do. This is what makes us Catholic.

Our Pope Benedict, Pope John Paul II, or even Pope Francis are our Marian Pope's of today. They would not lie about Sr Lucia.

Please read an article from a Marian priest about the explanation of what the consecration means. As well as, an article that is poignant on crucial facts about the consecration of Russia.
www.therealpresence.org/archives/mariology/mariology_014.htm

taylormarshall.com/2013/10/has-russia-been-consecrated-by-the-popes.html

Again, I still believe Her triumph in the end will happen. It took Mexico 10 years, it may take the world just a bit longer.

Thanks Joe, for coming to my defense, you sir, are a true gentleman.



Anonymous said...

Mariana-I truly have great spiritual affection and affinity to Benedict XVI and our current Holy Father. In fact, one of the happiest days of my life was when I received a call from my diocese letting me know that I won two tickets to see then Pope Benedict XVI in New York in early 2008. It has been said that upon ascending the Chair of Peter Cardinal Ratzinger had two regrets: the first being the excommunication of the SSPX bishops, of which he later rescinded, and the second being a part of the of the circus in May and June of 2000 regarding Fatima. In the first, he is said to have stated, "I made a mistake." Regarding the second, he is said to have stated, "My hand was forced." Now please remember that the spin put on the secret in 2000 basically said that Fatima's prophecy was already fulfilled. Now, how do you then explain then Pope Benedict's remarks on plane to Fatima in 2010 in which he stated (and I am paraphrasing) that "anyone who thinks Fatima is relegated to the past is deceiving himself." Also, how does what happened in 2000 compare to what he said as Cardinal Ratzinger said in 1984 regarding "the dangers threatening the faith of the Christian, etc..."
Lastly, I would like to mention that I have heard that Sr Lucy was invited by the Vatican to take part in the conference in 2000. She refused. I have also heard that the convent in Coimbra was given the opportunity to watch the conference via satellite. Again, they refused. I don't have proof, but if that is true, it speaks volumes. To me, it would make sense that the only living visionary would attend and corroborate the Vatican line. But yet she didn't. Why, may I ask didn't she?
Lastly, it is known that there are many within the hierarchy who have willingly given themselves over to evil. The former chief exorcist, Fr Amorth, acknowledged that there were those within the Vatican who worshipped satan. I didn't say that. He did. And he paid for it. The last thing these men want is for Fatima to be fulfilled. They are doing their best to bury it.
PR

mariana said...

PR, your interpretation of Pope Benedict's phrases has no evidence that fits your unsound reasons. You ought to let the evidence speak for itself and then deal with what the evidence tells us. The real Pope Benedict is quite different from the Benedict existing in your mind.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2010/may/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20100511_portogallo-interview_en.html

"Even if the events to which the third part of the 'secret' of Fatima refers now seem part of the past, Our Lady's call to conversion and penance, issued at the start of the twentieth century, remain timely and urgent." - This is Benedict's position till today.

By the way, Pope Benedict was not forced out of the papacy either. All the "wolves" don't have him under ball and chain. Such nonsense! Again, just more twisted interpretations of desperation from a certain group in our Church, that should just calm down.

Anonymous said...

Mariana,
I am hurt a bit, you never replied to four present day messages from Heaven linked and one of them discussed (locutions.org) at UTA that confirm the consecration of Russia specifically has not been done yet. And you gave no reply to the older 2007 message to Vern and Cletus, God Speaks Will You Listen. Did you read it? In it Our Lord repeated over and over the consecration has not been done! Our Lord Himself explained about the 1984 "worldwide" consecration.

Here is another...

You love Father Gobbi, no argument, Father Gobbi is a true prophet. The Blessed Mother told Father Gobbi too, Russia has NOT specifically been named, the Consecration of Russia will be late.

Thanks David G.

Mary

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March 25, 1984

'Before all I ask it of Pope John Paul II, the first of my beloved sons, who on the occasion of this feast performed the consecration in a solemn manner, after writing to the bishops of the world and inviting them to do so in union with him.
Unfortunately the invitation was not welcomed by all the bishops; particular circumstances have NOT yet permitted the explicit consecration of Russia which I have REQUESTED MANY TIMES. As I have already told you, this conse-cration will be made to me when the bloody events are are well on the way to actuality. I bless this courageous act of my Pope in his wish to entrust the world and all the nations to my Immaculate Heart; I receive it with love and gratitude, and because of it I promise to intervene to shorten greatly the hours of purification and to lessen the the gravity of the trial.'

According to European intelligence, in 1984 Russia was planning to attack Europe following Reagan's installation of Pershing missiles in Europe. In October of 1984, the big Naval base on the Baltic had a massive explosion, destroying vast quantities of weapons. The Russians changed their mind. The Blessed Mother did not waste any time in keeping her promise.

"Russia is the nation, chosen by God, to chastise the nations of the world, just like He chose the Philistines to chastise the Israelites, if we do not first obtain the conversion of that poor nation." ...Sister Lucia.

http://catholicexchange.com/ce-forum-did-the-consecration-of-russia-take-place-or-not

Anonymous said...

In 1939, the world was heading to another world war, Lucy’s advisors told her to ask Jesus if He would accept a consecration of the world instead of Russia by itself. Jesus replied that in return for that He would shorten the tribulation of the new war, but that Russia would not be converted then, and the period of peace would not come at that time. Jesus explained to Lucy that He would not convert Russia without its consecration because He wanted Russia’s conversion to be seen by the world as part of the triumph of His mother’s Immaculate Heart. In 1942, Pius XII consecrated the world and soon the tide of battle turned with Nazi defeats at Stalingrad and El Alamein.

Heaven accepted Pope JPII consecration of the whole world to Mary’s Immaculate Heart in 1984, and in return mitigated the tribulation of the Cold War. But, as in 1942, Russia was not converted, and since 1984 the world has experienced constant hot war, while Russia today is as deep a moral cesspool and as politically corrupt as any Western country.

The Holy Father must consecrate Russia by itself to comply with Heaven’s request. JP II did not do so because he truly believed that he could not. On August 1, 1984, John Paul told Fr. Pierre Caillon, a retired philosophy professor who had studied the issue of the consecration of Russia for years, that “the consecration is done…we cannot consecrate Russia apart by itself. We have consecrated all of the nations and we have added a special mention for the nation which Our Lady was expecting the consecration.” John Paul’s probable reasons to believe that he could not consecrate Russia alone could include the Vatican-Moscow Metz Pact of 1962, his fear of causing a schism in the Church, and internal opposition.

Almost immediately after the ‘84 ceremony, John Paul II began to organize the Interreligious prayer meeting at Assisi for the purpose of obtaining world peace (the event took place in 1986). Obviously, if JP II really believed he performed a valid consecration of Russia, then he would have felt no need to organize a very expensive and scandalous assembly for world peace two years later in Assisi, for peace would have already been guaranteed by Heaven itself. Rather than gathering the world’s bishops in prayer to the Blessed Trinity for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart, John Paul II gathered the world’s false religions to pray to their devils for peace. It is no wonder that the Church and the world are on the precipice of divine judgment.

The word “consecration" comes from the Latin word "consecrare" and generally means to dedicate, devote or make holy. The Catholic Encyclopedia defines it as “an act by which a thing is separated from a common and profane to a sacred use.” Acts of consecration are seen throughout Scripture, for example, in Moses’ consecration of God’s people (Ex 19:10), the consecration of Joshua (Num 27:18-23), the priests (Ex 19:22) and Levites (Num 8:14), and the consecration of Aaron (Ex 29).We see the same thing in the New Testament, for example, when Saul and Barnabas were “set aside” (consecrated) for the work of the Gospel. As these and other passages reveal, the consecration must be specific and identify the precise object in view.

Peterman said...

Joerusso nobody has the RIGHT to spread error and falsehood and despite what you may have heard from this liberal world your entire life everyone's opinion is not valid and correct, that's a lie propagated by the evil one. If someone is here or on ANY blog saying "the consecration was made, many times." they're FULL of IT and they call our Lady a liar. This is NOT peace we live in, people need to be shaken awake at this critical time, not lulled to sleep by ERROR and foolishness.

joerusso777 said...

Peterman,

My friend, I never said that I agreed with those arguments.
I happen to be one that doesn't believe the consecration took place yet. But that's not what I was talking about. It's fine to have a disagreement, but to lash out and call people fools, and be harsh towards them is what I was talking about. Is that really necessary? You seem to be real quick on rashly judging someones heart. I don't believe for one second that Mariana is believing she's deceiving people, she actually believes it.
I just don't understand why you can't just express your points without putting people down. I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I am actually concerned with you.

I also want to express this point regarding the consecration.
It's not our (us lay folk and even everyday Priests) responsibility. Jesus and Mary told Sister Lucia to give the message to the Pope, and told the Pope to do it and he had to have the cooperation of all the Bishops. Is it the Popes fault? Have they(the Popes) all been cowards? Have they all disobeyed by their own doing? Again, it is a rash judgement to just assume that they have sinned, when we have no idea what the real circumstances are.
Sure we have this person saying this, and that one saying another, but do we have concrete evidence? You yourself said don't believe everything people say.
What is our responsibility? Well, our Lady told the rest of us to Pray the Rosary everyday, And on the First Five Saturdays(Really if we take this seriously we'd just do it every Saturday) basically as soon as possible, go to Confession receive Holy Communion, pray a Rosary, Meditate for 15 minutes on all the Mysteries, all in reparation for the offenses committed against her Immaculate Heart. Not to mention Jesus' desire that the whole Church have a constant devotion to her Immaculate Heart.
If the rest of the Church would've listened to Jesus and Mary about the regular Daily and First Saturday devotion, we wouldn't be in this mess. The Consecration would've been done already, Long ago for that matter. I can already say, that I am guilty of not heeding all that I was supposed to do here. How about the rest of us? This is happening because we ALL didn't listen, Period.
Instead of fighting about whether or not the Hierarchy has done this or that, how about we all here make a pact and say we will from this day forward without ceasing(and forget about just trying to get the 5 Saturdays grace and do it out of just flat out love for Jesus and Mary) we will all get down on our knees and beg God for forgiveness and heed this warning that should've been heeded by everybody in the first place.

Anonymous said...

The truth is had the throne of France in been consecrated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, as Jesus himself demanded, no French Revolution. No French Revolution no Marxism. No communism, no need for Fatima . We are assured that Russia will play a major role in the re-evangelization of the (currently) post-Christian West, but this can only happen after the Russian Orthodox Church is re-united with Rome and this in turn can only come about by means of the collegial consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
The conversion of Russia will come at the height of the Tribulation, and it will astound the world, and the whole world will understand by whose all-powerful mediation with God this miraculous conversion has taken place. This will completely overturn the whole train of events that was set in motion by the French Revolution, that was cause by the failure to consecrate the Throne of France to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. The world will then see the dawning of the promised Era of Peace, under the reign of the Two Hearts. How will anyone connect all of this with an essentially little known consecration of the world by JP II some three decades or more prior to the event? They won't. Therefore, it could never be perceived by the world as the Triumph of IHM.

Our Lady appeared to Lucy in 1929, to formalize the requirement for the Holy Father, in union with ALL the bishops of the world, to consecrate RUSSIA to the Immaculate Heart. This confirmed the original request, made at Fatima on July 13th. 1917. In 1931, Jesus, having first warned that, "If they don't do it, they (the bishops) will follow the King of France into misfortune." Jesus then added, "In the end they will repent of it, and they will do it, but it will be late." Is ninety nine years late? If 1984 was late ...!
It is quite obvious that Jesus was drawing a direct parallel of 100 years , elapsed between the demand for the consecration of France and the outbreak of the diabolic French revolution resulting from the failure to comply with Heaven's requests. Therefore, it is apparent also that the same 100 year period applies to the demand for the consecration of Russia to the IHM.
The demand for the consecration of France was made at the same time as the revelation of the mysteries of the Sacred Heart to St. Margaret Mary Alacoque in June 1689. While the request for the consecration of Russia was 'formalized' in 1929, it was merely a confirmation of the initial request made by Our Lady in 1917. Applying the lessons learned from the revelation of the Sacred Heart, we may assume that our starting point is 1917, since the essential Fatima event occurred with that calendar year. Is it possible that the consecration will be done, within a twelve month period prior to July 13th. 2017?

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Anonymous said...

The church is following the same path it did in 1689. She is ignoring commands from heaven today as it did 325 years ago. It would seem that EVERY catholic, whether pope, clergy or laity is at fault , then and now , for not following what heaven is demanding, by not praying enough rosaries . We are on that path to almost total destruction of the church that heaven has warned us about. Something had prevented the church in Fatima’s infancy from performing this consecration of Russia and is still going on today. This so-called ‘84 event has not and is still not working, despite what many in the church believe. JPII stated that "the chastisements cannot be averted, it is too late." He stated that "the die was cast. The chastisements can be mitigated by praying the rosary." He reiterated that he, as his predecessors, preferred to postpone publication so as not to encourage the world power of communism to make certain moves. But was communism THAT powerful during the reign of Pius xi pontificate? (Unless of course communism had infiltrated the church). I believe the popes of the last and current century did not truly believe in the Fatima message, possibly because it was a “private” revelation and until Card. Ratzinger planted doubt about Lucy’s accounts of the angels and vision of Hell. He suggested they were “images which Lucy may have seen in devotional books and which draw their inspiration from long-standing intuitions of faith.” He questioned whether these accounts might only be “projections of the inner world of children” , a figment of a child’s imagination. Card. Ratzinger cast doubt on the veracity of the entire Fatima message. (is this what all pontiffs believed prior to Benedict 16?)

That’s how bad it has gotten in the church. A combination of post conciliar ecumenism, a lack of teaching of Marian devotion the last 50 years and now a certain disbelief and negativity towards the Fatima message which basically said the consecration of russia is done, “there is not much more that can be done” attitude from Rome, what are we to do and believe from this point now?

joerusso777 said...

Great explanation anon! The only thing we can do is do what Our Lady told us to do and live out our Faith. This is the only thing that will change hearts and the world. God has made this very clear.

Anonymous said...

Our Lady promised that when the Pope and all his Bishops consecrated Russia to her Immaculate Heart, it would be converted and peace would return. Clearly it is through this means that the Church will defeat its enemies. Note that the consecration enables the leaders of the Church to restore peace, but first Russia must be explicitly consecrated - to the IHM. Why should this be the means of restoring peace? The very title 'Immaculate Heart of Mary' reveals the answer. For, through God's foreknowledge of Christ's redeeming merits won on Calvary, Mary was conceived without original sin, to be the worthy mother of His Son. She also united herself so closely with His saving mission on Calvary that she merited a role in the final defeat of Satan. So devotion to Our Lady’s IH looks forward to that final victory. And when the Pope and His Bishops consecrate Russia, its miraculous conversion will demonstrate to all that God has triumphed through the Immaculate Heart of His mother.
This also fulfills what God promised in the Garden of Eden, when He foretold the coming of a woman whose offspring would crush the serpent's head (Gen 3:15). Mary is the woman foretold in this passage, and just as she was the means of Christ coming in His first Advent, so she will pave the way for His return. For it is through the Immaculate Heart of His Mother that God will conquer Satan. Bishop Fulton Sheen wrote: 'how shall we overcome the spirit of Satan except by the power of that Woman to whom Almighty God has given the mandate to crush the head of the serpent?' ('Life Worth Living' Series 2). This explains why at Fatima Our Lady stated 'God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart' - and then requested the Pope to consecrate Russia under this title. For by doing so, they will enable God's almighty power relayed through Mary, to defeat Satan conclusively.
With Christ no longer present in the Eucharist, the Immaculate Heart of Mary will provide an ancillary means of securing victory. God has entrusted the consecration of Russia as a 'sovereign remedy' so that her role would be manifest in and through the Church. This accords with what St Louis de Montfort wrote 'It was through the most holy Virgin Mary that Jesus came into the world, and it is through her that He has to reign in the world' ...'It was through Mary that the salvation of the world was begun, and it is through Mary that it must be consummated'.... 'Being the way by which Jesus came to us the first time, she will also be the way by which He will come the second time, though not in the same manner' (True Devotion to Mary).
So by requesting the consecration back in 1929, God was allowing man the freedom to comply or not to comply, but eventually a GRAVE crisis will arise which will effectively necessitate the consecration. Sr. Lucia once asked Our Lord why the consecration was necessary, and He replied: 'Because I want my whole Church to acknowledge that consecration as a triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary so that it would extend its cult later on and put the devotion to the Immaculate Heart beside the devotion to my Sacred Heart... (He also stated) 'Pray much for the Holy Father. He will do it, but it will be late. Nevertheless, the IMH will save Russia. It has been entrusted to her' (letter of Sr Lucia, 18.5.36 ). What God asks is that the Pope and his Bishops consecrate Russia by name, to the Immaculate Heart. To do otherwise is to thwart His purpose. The Pope cannot substitute 'the world' for Russia, because it was not the stated object. And he must do so in union with all his Bishops: their involvement is essential. By fulfilling all these conditions, they will win the triumph Our Lady foretold.

joerusso777 said...

Anon.
I think you and I are on the same page just a different paragraph. I believe everything you said. I only merely state this. Us layfolk, have no power to make the consecration except that which Our Lord stated, which is to pray much for the Holy Father, also as stated Pray the Rosary, First Satrurdays etc.
my Point is this...how will the church receive the Grace and Church to make this Solemn and important act? By Our Lady's IH. Our church is One Body and so by that very fact everything that happens in the Church the body is affected. The True devotion that St. Louis DeMontmort speaks of will influence more prayer and sacrifice and Penance which will in turn drive out the Evil one from the Hierarchy, which will influence and strengthen the Bishops and the Pope to finally do the Consecration which will ultimately bring about the Glorious Triumph of the IMH.
We can't separate any of this it all is one plan for the main goal. The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary United with the Sacred Heart of Jesus. The quicker we all realize this, the quicker it'll be done and the less it'll hurt. It's already going to hurt pretty bad. :)

Anonymous said...

Continued...
Actually, I had more to post. Got sidetracked...
However, the laity has a role also: they must help to merit this triumph by their acceptance of their sufferings. You may say: if we are to be persecuted, what point is there in discussing it? - you cannot change that reality. No, but the important point is - we can change our approach towards it. Consider Christ's own teachings on this subject. He did not conceal from His followers the fact that they were going to be persecuted, but what He taught enabled them to overcome their fears: 'Blessed are you when men persecute you: rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven (Matt 5:12); 'Rejoice when that day comes and dance for joy, for your reward will be great in heaven' (Luke 6:23)...'You will be hated by all men on account of my name, but not a hair of your head will be lost. Your endurance will win you your lives' (Luke 21:18-19). The key then is to see beyond physical life - to eternal life, the glory that awaits the faithful. In the last days the Church shall again be persecuted as at the start. The early martyrs were outstanding in the way they accepted sufferings. It is clear from the accounts of their martyrdoms, that when they were ‘put to the test’ that God supported them in their sufferings – a fact that ought to help inspire us.
Thus we read that when on the rack St Peter Balsam 'felt no pain'. When being tortured St Arcadius stated 'He comforts me in the condition you see me; to die for Him is to live, to suffer for Him is to enjoy the greatest delight’. Likewise St Quirinus stated 'I feel not the blows which my body has received, they give me no torment'. St Theodoret of Antioch exclaimed that he 'felt no pain as God was with him'. As St Victor of Marseilles was on the rack, Our Lord appeared to him holding a cross and said that He 'suffered in His servants and consoled them after their victory'. We read that before St Montanus was martyred, St Cyprian appeared to him and stated 'The body feels no pain when the soul gives herself entirely to the Lord'.
Clearly the reason for this is that 'God is not outdone in generosity'. It appears that as the martyrs began their sufferings, He united them so powerfully with Himself that His presence overcame the pain of their sufferings. And when one considers it, the very severity of those sufferings, itself presupposes such a divine support. In its readings for the Office, the Church underlines the fact that the martyrs were sustained in this way. Thus the response at Morning Office for the feast of St Agnes reads ‘God is her help, she will not be moved’ and the Scripture reading from 1 Corinthians states ‘He helps us all our trials..’ The Prayer for the feast of St Vincent Deacon and Martyr is ‘Almighty, ever-living God, fill us with your Holy Spirit, and let a love stronger than death possess our hearts, the love that enabled St Vincent to rise above the torments of his martyrdom’. Similarly for the Feast of St Lawrence, Deacon and Martyr, Antiphon 2 for Morning Prayer reads ‘The Lord sent his angel to free me from the fire and I was not burnt’ and the Benedictus Antiphon reads ‘Do not fear, my son, for I am with you; though you should walk through fire, the flames will not harm you, nor the smell of burning be about you.’

Anonymous said...

The above is of great importance if we are to remain faithful under persecution. It strengthens our readiness to offer our lives, if we know that behind the appearance of suffering the hand of God reaches out to hold and take us in an embrace. There is of course a theological justification for this, for it is certain that we can do nothing without God’s aid, and if that is true of every good act we perform, how much more true of the greatest act a Christian can undertake: the offering of his life? Our Lord’s words are surely relevant: ’learn of me for my yoke is easy and my burden light, and you will find refreshment for your souls’ – or as St Paul states ‘Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will affliction, or distress, or persecution…or the sword? Yet in all this we are conquerors through him who has granted us his love’ Rom 8: 35. The martyrs’ faith enabled them to face death willingly. Indeed they saw their sufferings as a privilege which united them in the closest way - with their Lord.
So although the Mass will no longer avail the Church, while it suffers persecution, its acceptance of those sufferings will help advance the time of triumph. In its section on the ‘last days’, the 'Catechism of the Catholic Church' endorses this idea of a union with Christ’s sufferings: 'Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies its pilgrimage on earth will unveil 'the mystery of iniquity' in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the faith. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist. The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this Passover, when she will follow her Lord in His death and Resurrection' (Section 675).
It would appear that the return of Christ in glory is to be preceded by the moment when the Church triumphs over Satan and his agents, through the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Given the importance of this event, we should expect a reference to it in the scriptural prophecies on the last days. Significantly, among those prophecies, is one which has never been satisfactorily explained. For Christ revealed that in the last days will appear ‘the sign of the son of man in the heavens’ (Matt 24:30). ‘A sign’ in Biblical terms - is a miracle; ‘in the heavens’ indicates one directly attributable to God and witnessed by all. As for ‘the son of man’… surely this is a reference to the prophecy of Genesis of the coming of a woman whose offspring will ‘crush the head of the serpent? Is it not significant that Christ referred to His Mother as ‘woman’ and to Himself as ‘the son of man’? Did they not indeed come in fulfillment of God’s prophecy in the Garden of Eden? And is it not evident that the ‘triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary’ will be the fulfillment of that prophecy when Christ through His Mother, defeats Satan conclusively? Picture the scene – when Antichrist through his miraculous idol will be leading many into following him while Russia imposes worship on that idol, on pain of death. At the climax of that conflict, Our Lady will intervene as she foretold at Fatima, and through the power of her Son, the ‘son of man’, will drive Satan from Russia and restore it to Christ. This will represent Christ’s conclusive victory, when He will ‘crush the head of the serpent’. So it will reveal the victory of God’s Incarnate Word and the fulfillment of His promise at the dawn of time, in other words it will be ‘the sign of the son of man in the heavens’.

Anonymous said...

For Our Lady to commit her message to a child implies that the Third Secret is essentially simple. Children do not remember what they cannot understand. And since Sr Lucia and the Pope have both stated that the Secret is contained in the end-time Scriptures, it implies that what they reveal is likewise simple. My conclusion, that both concern the coming of Antichrist to abolish the Mass fulfils that criterion. Clearly it is God’s plan that this message should be revealed prior to the attack, so that we can be forewarned of it, and so reject Antichrist, whatever the cost. For as the Catechism of the Catholic Church states, the coming of Antichrist is 'the supreme religious deception'. Clearly it is imperative for people to be forewarned so that they can defend the faith whatever the cost. What we face is an attack not on temporal things but on our eternal salvation. Nothing less than an awareness of those dangers will suffice.

Anonymous said...

Has God sent a prophet? www.thewarningsecondcoming.com
Be sure to read about the “Seal of the Living God” found on the homepage links - *a Biblical reference to this topic: Rev. chapter 7

Unknown said...

Hello Emmett,

I've been reading so many of your articles in the last months and so many of them make a lot of sense and though no one can be sure on all the accounts of the events that are taking place now and the ones to come, could you help me understand the statement you make saying that Satans increased power ends at the turn of the 21 century or at the end of the 20 century. Now if that is the case how can the rise of the antichrist and the great tribulation and all the great and horrible evils that will take place after the era of peace take place when his power I would think would be at its highest point. I just don't see the sense in that can you explain.

Thanks,
Karen

Emmett O'Regan said...

Hi Karen,

Sorry for the late reply. I was on holiday. The end of the period of the Devil's greater power is marked by the throwing down of Satan to the earth, whereupon he transfers his great power and authority to his servant the Antichrist. While the saints in heaven rejoice at this great victory, since it will allow for the restoration of the Church, the inhabitants of the world are warned that at this point the Devil has now come down to them in great fury. The casting down of Satan is to allow for the final victory of the Church during the New Pentecost, but after this the Church will endure its greatest trial:

"And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”
(Rev 12:9-12)

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