Tuesday 18 November 2014

The New Fatima Revelation in Closer Detail (Part Two)

In part one of this post (which can be found here), we discussed the influences behind Cardinal Bertone's remarks following Sr. Lucia's funeral Mass, when he made a direct connection between the "signs in heaven" described in the Bible with the events of 9/11. We noted how Sr. Lucia is known to have written a letter to Pope St. John Paul II in the aftermath of the attacks on the World Trade Center. This was soon followed by the dispatch of Archbishop Bertone, the then Secretary of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, to interview Sr. Lucia in November 2001 - the timing of which seems in all likelihood in direct regard to the letter she had sent the Holy Father. We have also noted previously in the first part of this post how there are several strong indications that the "attachment" to the Third Secret of Fatima (the interpretation of the secret given to Sr. Lucia by Our Lady), contains a precise date concerning the turn of the millennium, and relates to the struggle of the Woman Adorned with the Sun against the Dragon of the Apocalypse. 

Once we begin to pool this evidence together, it strongly suggests that Cardinal Bertone's contention that the events of 9/11 are connected to the "signs of heaven" described in the Bible, is in fact rooted in some information conveyed to him by the seer of Fatima herself - which was most likely originally communicated to the pope in the immediate wake of the destruction of the Twin Towers.
At the time, there were rumours circulated by Inside the Vatican that Sr. Lucia had sent a letter to Pope St. John Paul II immediately after the attacks on the World Trade Center. Citing anonymous sources from within the Carmelite order, traditionalist newspaper The Remnant published yet another rumour that Sr. Lucia had received a new apparition of the Virgin Mary on October 7th, 2001 - the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary - which rather aptly, also reflects the struggle between the Arab and Christian worlds, since this feast commemorates the Battle of Lepanto in 1571, when Catholic forces triumphed over the Islamic Ottoman fleet.  The alleged new revelation was supposedly to ask for prayers to prevent an impending "blood bath", and seems to be partially based on the fact that the Carmel of Coimbra did indeed hold to a 24 hour period of prayer on 7th October, 2001. At least one Carmelite convent had confirmed that it had received a letter from the Association of Our Lady of the Rosary of Fatima, dated to 13th September, 2001 (just two days after 9/11), calling on the Carmelite order to unite with Sr. Lucia in praying for peace in the world on 7th October - the Feast of the Holy Rosary

Archbishop Bertone himself had confirmed that the purpose of his meeting with Sr. Lucia was specifically to address the recent developments surrounding the events of 9/11, during a press release published on 9th January 2002:

In recent months, especially after the sad event of the terrorist attack last 11 September, articles on alleged new revelations by Sr Lucia, announcements of letters of warning to the Pope and apocalyptic reinterpretations of the Fatima message have appeared in the Italian and foreign press.

The suspicion that the Holy See did not publish the whole text of the third part of the "secret" is being reaffirmed and certain "Fatimist" movements have repeated their accusation that the Holy Father has not yet consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

It was therefore considered necessary, with the agreement of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and the Bishops of both Leiria-Fatima and Coimbra, that I meet Sr Lucia in the presence of Rev. Luis Kondor, SVD, Vice-Postulator of the cause of Bl. Francisco and Bl. Jacinta, and of the Prioress of the Carmelite Convent of St Teresa, to obtain explanations and information directly from the only surviving visionary.
(Archbishop Tarcisco Bertone, Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, L'Osservatore Romano, 9 January 2002. See the full text here)

However during the same press release, Archbishop Bertone stated that Sr. Lucia denied that she had received a new revelation after the events of 9/11, quoting her as saying:

"If I had received new revelations, I would not have communicated them to anyone, but I would have told them directly to the Holy Father..." 

So we can safely rule out the possibility that Sr. Lucia received a new private revelation at this time, as was suggested by The Remnant. But there was no denial that she had sent a letter to Pope John Paul II in the wake of the attacks on the World Trade Center. Instead we find a confirmation that if there were any developments concerning the message of Fatima, Sr. Lucia would have communicated this directly to the pope. This suggests that the content of the 2001 letter directly referred to the contents of the Third Secret or the attachment to the Secret kept in the Papal Apartments, and was perhaps a new understanding of this material in light of the world-changing events which had occurred at the turn of the millennium, rather than containing details of any new private revelation. To use the words mentioned by Archbishop Bertone in his press release, the contents of this letter contained "warning to the pope and apocalyptic reinterpretations of the Fatima message".

The then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, added more insight to the contents of this letter, by adding his own comment following the publication of the Inside the Vatican article on 26th October, 2001:

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said Thursday that the rumors about this alleged letter are the continuation of "an old polemic fed by certain people of dubious credibility," for the purpose of "destabilizing the internal equilibrium of the Roman Curia and of troubling the people of God."
(Zenit News Agency, 28th October, 2001)

Although Cardinal Ratzinger's words were intended to bemoan the fact that these rumours were being exploited by the "Fatimist" movement, it has been noted they do not deny the existence of this letter - but rather add an intriguing insight into the destabilizing effects that these rumours were having on "the internal equilibrium of the Roman Curia". In response to this statement, the "Fatimist" movement pointed out that the very fact that there were internal divisions within the Roman Curia itself on this matter, highlights that there was some considerable substance to these claims. If there were no truth behind these rumours, then they could not possibly cause any internal divisions within the Roman Curia - given that the high ranking members of the Vatican hierarchy are the very people who would be fully appraised of these matters. The fact that the Roman Curia was divided on this issue points to something of considerable weight behind these rumours, and indicates not only that the existence of this letter was widely known within the Vatican hierarchy, but also that its contents (which most likely consisted of an "apocalyptic reinterpretation of the Fatima message" in light of the events of 9/11) proved to be extremely divisive. 

We can find yet another detail of the content of this letter in Cardinal Bertone's book The Last Secret of Fatima. Here, Bertone informs us that when he met Sr. Lucia for the second time, after the events of 9/11: "...she showed absolutely no interest in drawing connections between Fatima and the attack on the Twin Towers." (The Last Secret of Fatima, p78). While on the surface this would appear to contradict the possibility that this letter contained some sort of apocalyptic reinterpretation of the Secret of Fatima linking it to the attacks on the World Trade Center, it actually provides us with a number of clues. Given that Sr. Lucia had shown no interest in connecting the Secret of Fatima to the events of 9/11, we can safely conclude that it was not her that had brought this topic up during her interview. Which can only mean that Cardinal Bertone had questioned her on this subject - asking her if she thought there was a connection between the Secret of Fatima and 9/11. The fact that it was Cardinal Bertone who had raised this connection suggests that he had been considering a possible link between the two himself, most likely due to the contents of the letter she had recently sent Pope St. John Paul II. While this means that there was no explicit link between the events of 9/11 and the Secret of Fatima in this letter, that must have been something within it to suggest such a connection - enough to warrant Cardinal Bertone's question asking if Sr. Lucia thought the two were linked. Sr. Lucia's response to this question - that of disinterest in making this connection herself, seems to be a typical trait of her personality. We know that Sr. Lucia humbly deferred to the Church authorities in matters of interpretation, stating of the Third Secret: "I wrote down what I saw; however it was not for me to interpret it, but for the Pope". ("Conversation with Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart", The Message of Fatima). 

Although Sr. Lucia did not answer the question that Cardinal Bertone had put to her, asking her if she thought there was a link between the Secret of Fatima and the events of 9/11, we know that he remained personally convinced that the attacks on the Twin Towers were related to the "signs in heaven" described in the Bible - given the fact that he publicly mulled over this possibility following Sr. Lucia's funeral Mass. This means that although it was not completely explicit, there must have been something contained in this letter which strongly suggested a connection between the Secret of Fatima, 9/11, and the apocalyptic "signs in heaven" described in the Bible - which herald the moment Satan is cast from heaven down to the earth, signaling the rise to power of the Antichrist and the fulfilment of the prophecy of the mark of the Beast. 

The recently published private revelation, concerning a vision seen by Sr. Lucia which prompted her to commit the Third Secret to writing, helps us to gain a better understanding of the implications behind these events, and what they portend for the future. In order to fully grasp the true significance of this private revelation, we must turn back to examine some material which was published earlier on this blog, and re-evaluate some of our previous conclusions in light of this new evidence.

Ishtar and the Whore of Babylon

As we have already discussed in some detail in an earlier post, there are some remarkable parallels between the symbolism of the angel of the Third Secret and the imagery of the Angel of the Seven Thunders  described in the Apocalypse - once we take into account a bridging link provided by the Book of DeuteronomyThe Angel of the Seven Thunders, who raises up his right hand to swear an eternal oath before God, is directly based on a passage in the Book of Deuteronomy, which combines the motif of a flaming or "flashing" sword with the raising of a hand to heaven to swear an eternal oath:

“See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven and swear, As I live forever, if I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries and will repay those who hate me".
(Deut 32:39-41)

The Angel of the Seven Thunders was seen by St. John holding the open little scroll in his hands, and was almost identically described as stretching out his hand to heaven to swear an eternal oath: 

And the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven and swore by him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and what is in it, the earth and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it, that there would be no more delay, but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.
(Rev 10:1-7)

Only this time, the imagery directly corresponds to the ancient descriptions given for the Colossus of Rhodes, which was similarly depicted as standing with one foot on the land and one on the sea, while at the same time holding a flaming torch up in the air. This is but one example of the many instances in which the Book of Revelation uses parallelism incorporating the mythology of different Ancient Near Eastern cultures. In doing so, the Apocalypse aligns such imagery with themes found in the Old Testament, in order to imbue the text with a densely layered, complex structure, which can only be fully understood in light of this broader context. 

The imagery of the Colossus of Rhodes is in turn the primary inspiration for the Statue of Liberty - which was conceived of by its Masonic designers as a "new Colossus", that would adorn the shores of the United States. This bridging connection between the Apocalypse, the Book of Deuteronomy and the imagery of the Colossus of Rhodes informs us that the Angel of the Seven Thunders described in the Book of Revelation is also the angel with the flaming sword seen by the shepherd children in the Third Secret of Fatima, and parallels events which unfold on earth during the eschatological age. 
In the post The Angel of the Seven Thunders, we also noted how the French Freemason who designed the Statue of Liberty, Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi, styled its appearance on the Greek goddess Hecate, who as well as sharing the distinct rays around her head, is similarly depicted in ancient art as bearing a torch.  Hecate was closely associated with the Egyptian goddess Isis and her counterparts in the Mesopotamian pantheons, the mother goddess Ishtar/Inanna/Astarte, as well as the goddess Semiramis - the mythical wife of King Ninus, who was identified with the biblical King Nimrod. Ancient Greek historians attributed the building of the city of Nineveh to King Ninus, and asserted that it was from him that the ancient capital of Assyria derived its name (which was a centre for the worship of Ishtar). The Book of Genesis similarly informs us that it was Nimrod who founded the city of Nineveh:

Cush fathered Nimrod; he was the first on earth to be a mighty man. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD. Therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the LORD.” The beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. From that land he went into Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth-Ir, Calah, and Resen between Nineveh and Calah; that is the great city. (Gen 10:7-12)

Ninus/Nimrod was also identified with the Mesopotamian deity Ninurta, who similar to Nimrod's description in the Bible as a "mighty hunter", was often depicted with a bow and arrow.

Ninurta depicted as a "mighty hunter" with a bow and arrow

Ninurta, shown to the left holding a bow and arrow, standing between a lion and his daughter, the Babylonian goddess Ishtar.

According to both Jewish and Christian tradition, it was King Nimrod who constructed the Tower of Babel. So by evoking the legacy of the Greek goddess Hecate and her Ancient Near Eastern counterparts (such as Isis and Ishtar), the symbolism of the Statue of Liberty not only alludes to the Colossus of Rhodes and the Angel of the Seven Thunders, but is also closely associated with the story of King Nimrod and the construction of the Tower of Babel. In basing the symbolism of this famous statue on the mother-goddess figure of the ancient world, the Freemason architects responsible for its design appear to have deliberately associated it with the Whore of Babylon described in the Apocalypse. 

In the Book of Revelation, the Whore of Babylon represents the eschatological world power; but its imagery is a deliberate parody of the Babylonian deity Ishtar, who was the goddess of fertility, love war and sex, and mother/guardian of sacred prostitutes. Worship of Ishtar in the ancient Levant involved the use of temple prostitutes in fertility rites, and the Book of Amos informs us that some Israelites had even adopted this practice beside altars dedicated to Yahweh, due to religious syncretism:

a man and his father go in to the same girl, so that my holy name is profaned; they lay themselves down beside every altar on garments taken in pledge, and in the house of their God they drink the wine of those who have been fined. (Amos 2:7-8)

This aspect of Isthar worship is highlighted by the title "mother of prostitutes" in the "name of mystery" written upon the head of the Whore of Babylon:

The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And on her forehead was written a name of mystery:“Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth's abominations.” And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
(Rev 17:4-6)

Religious syncreticism was a serious problem during this period of the Old Testament, and the goddess Asherah was frequently worshipped alongside Yahweh by some of the ancient Israelites, as a "divine consort" - much to the ire of the prophets. In the Ugaratic texts discovered at Ras Shamra in the early 20th century, Asherah is also called Elat (goddess) and Qodesh (holy one). This contains an important insight into unraveling the mystery behind the name of the Whore of Babylon in the Apocalypse here, as in the Hebrew Bible, temple prostitutes are called qedesha (consecrated ones) as opposed to the ordinary word used for whore (zonah). A difference which is used in the Book of Deuteronomy:

“None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute [qedesha], and none of the sons of Israel shall be a cult prostitute [qedesh]. You shall not bring the fee of a prostitute [zonah] or the wages of a dog into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow, for both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God."
(Deut 23:17-18)

The word qedesha (or kedeshah) is taken from the same Semetic root word (qdsh) used as a title for Asherah. So the alternative name for the goddess Asherah - Qodesh, appears to have been used as a Hebrew word-play for qedesha ("sacred prostitute") in the Apocalypse. So to the Hebrew mind, the "prostitute" or "qedesha" of Babylon, would quickly evoke images of the Canaanite goddess Asherah. Asherah was adopted into the religion of ancient Egypt as the goddess Qetesh (derived from the Canaanite name Qedesha), and was considered to be the fertility goddess of sexual pleasure.

The Egyptian Stele of Qetesh, which depicts the goddess Qetesh here holding a snake, and standing on the back of a lion - a symbol of Ishtar/Astarte

Qetesh was considered by the Egyptians to be a combination of the goddesses Asherah, Astarte and Anat, and like the Greek goddess Hecate (who provides the chief imagery of the Statue of Liberty), is one of the best examples in antiquity of the idea of a "triple goddess". The fact that Qetesh was considered to be a triple goddess, or a deity with an inherent threefold nature, gives this figure a striking association with the Greek goddess Hecate.  Hecate was the goddess of witchcraft and crossroads, and is the most widely known triple goddess in the ancient world.  She was usually depicted in threefold form in ancient art, and cult images of Hecate in triplicate form were often placed at crossroads with three ways, which served to highlight an aspect of this goddess as being a conduit between worlds, wherein she would be invoked to manipulate earthly events through the practice of occult magic.

Hecate in triple form

Another remarkable similarity between Qetesh and the Greek goddess Hecate is that both were often depicted holding a snake.

The Triple-Goddess Stone shows the Egyptian goddess Qetesh holding a snake, with the inscription "Qudshu-Astarte-Anat", showing that these three names referred to the one goddess

Hecate shown holding a snake and dagger

The various connections between the triple goddesses Hecate and Qetesh establish them as being merely different manifestations of the same deity, meaning that the Statue of Liberty is basically a representation of the Mesopotamian goddess Ishtar/Inanna/Astarte - the qedesha or "sacred prostitute" of Babylon, and is partially styled after the Colossus of Rhodes.

A further link between the Whore of Babylon and the various manifestations of the ancient Babylonian goddess Ishtar can be found in her connection to myth of the destruction of the primordial seven headed water dragon. One of the earliest versions of this myth is found in the story of Ishtar's father - Ninurta. As we have already discussed, Ninurta was associated by ancient historians with the Biblical King Nimrod, and in ancient Mesopotamian mythology, he was tasked with slaying a seven headed serpent associated with the mushussu, (which in a further parallel with the Dragon of the Apocalypse, translates as "reddish snake) - a hybrid between a serpent, lion and bird.

And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. (Rev 12:3)

The mushussu (previously known by an incorrect transliteration as sirrush) was depicted on the Isthar Gate constructed by King Nebuchadnezzar circa 575BC, which was the main entrance to the ancient city of Babylon.

The mushussu/sirrush as it appeared on the Ishtar Gate, which is now found at the Pergamon Museum in Berlin

This motif of a legendary hero struggling against a primordial serpent recurs in other legends, such as the Babylonian god Marduk killing Tiamat, the conflict of the Egypt sun god Ra against the serpent Apophis, or Heracles battling against the Lernaean Hydra. In the land of ancient Israel, the most well known version of this story was the Canaanite myth regarding Baal Hadad's victory over the seven headed sea monster Yam/Lotan. In the Canaanite mythology, the mother goddess Asherah offers herself up as a consort to Yam, the god of the sea, in order to placate his wrath against her children. But Baal, being angered by Asherah's suggestion assaults Yam in a fit of rage, and defeats him by crushing his skull with a club. In the Hittite version of this story, Asherah is identified with Ishtar.

This myth about a mother goddess who was worshiped through the act of sacred prostitution is used by the Apocalypse to form the basis of the narrative concerning the Whore of Babylon, told through the lens of the Levithan story found in the Old Testament. But instead of being shown standing on the back of a lion (as Ishtar was usually depicted), this version of the Babylonian mother goddess is seen riding on the back of the mushussu-like beast with seven heads - which according to Canaanite mythology was the very primordial serpent she had sought to form an alliance with to serve her own purposes:

Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth have committed sexual immorality, and with the wine of whose sexual immorality the dwellers on earth have become drunk.” And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. 
(Rev 17:1-3)

The Book of Jeremiah explicitly informs us that the immediate cause of the downfall of the land of Judah at the hands of Babylon was because of the Israelite's syncretistic worship of the Canaanite mother goddess Asherah. Jeremiah tells us that the people of ancient Judah paid homage to the "queen of heaven" (i.e. Asherah, following the Cannanite pantheon) by pouring out drink offerings to her as a libation:

Then all the men who knew that their wives had made offerings to other gods, and all the women who stood by, a great assembly, all the people who lived in Pathros in the land of Egypt, answered Jeremiah: “As for the word that you have spoken to us in the name of the LORD, we will not listen to you. But we will do everything that we have vowed, make offerings to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her, as we did, both we and our fathers, our kings and our officials, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For then we had plenty of food, and prospered, and saw no disaster. But since we left off making offerings to the queen of heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by the sword and by famine.” And the women said, “When we made offerings to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, was it without our husbands' approval that we made cakes for her bearing her image and poured out drink offerings to her?” Then Jeremiah said to all the people, men and women, all the people who had given him this answer: “As for the offerings that you offered in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem, you and your fathers, your kings and your officials, and the people of the land, did not the LORD remember them? Did it not come into his mind? The LORD could no longer bear your evil deeds and the abominations that you committed. Therefore your land has become a desolation and a waste and a curse, without inhabitant, as it is this day. It is because you made offerings and because you sinned against the LORD and did not obey the voice of the LORD or walk in his law and in his statutes and in his testimonies that this disaster has happened to you, as at this day. (Jer 44:15-23)

Jeremiah explicitly states here that because of these offerings poured out to Asherah, honouring her as the "queen of heaven", Judah had heaped Divine Judgment upon itself at the hands of Babylon, bringing about the period of the Babylonian exile. Although some Israelites had engaged in syncretic practices, and worshipped Asherah as a consort of Yahweh, in reality God's only bride was Judah itself, and by turning to other gods, Judah had prostituted itself among the nations. The cup that Judah had offered as a libation to Asherah was in fact a poison that she would be forced to drink down herself, following the fate of her sister Israel (referred to as Samaria below) - when the Northern Kingdom was swept away by the Assyrian Empire:
Thus the LORD, the God of Israel, said to me: “Take from my hand this cup of the wine of wrath, and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. They shall drink and stagger and be crazed because of the sword that I am sending among them.” So I took the cup from the LORD's hand, and made all the nations to whom the LORD sent me drink it: Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, its kings and officials, to make them a desolation and a waste, a hissing and a curse, as at this day; (Jer 25:15-18)

...and they shall deal with you in hatred and take away all the fruit of your labor and leave you naked and bare, and the nakedness of your whoring shall be uncovered. Your lewdness and your whoring have brought this upon you, because you played the whore with the nations and defiled yourself with their idols. You have gone the way of your sister; therefore I will give her cup into your hand. Thus says the Lord GOD: “You shall drink your sister's cup that is deep and large; you shall be laughed at and held in derision, for it contains much; you will be filled with drunkenness and sorrow. A cup of horror and desolation, the cup of your sister Samaria; you shall drink it and drain it out, and gnaw its shards, and tear your breasts; for I have spoken, declares the Lord GOD. (Ezek 23:29-34)

Jeremiah goes on to tell us that Babylon itself would in turn drink from this cup, pointing to events which are to unfold in the future:

Babylon was a golden cup in the LORD's hand, making all the earth drunken; the nations drank of her wine; therefore the nations went mad. Suddenly Babylon has fallen and been broken; wail for her! (Jer 51:7-8)

It is important here to understand the exact eschatological meaning of the "cup of wrath" here, which is portrayed in the Bible as a parody of the worship of Asherah/Ishtar. While the immediate context here is that of the land of Judah being punished for paying homage to false gods, it also serves as a template for an overarching eschatological narrative - which transposes these events, and projects their significance into the end of days. As I outline in some detail in my book Unveiling the Apocalypse, the Book of Revelation connects the cup of wrath with both the eschatological earthquake (described as the most powerful such event in human history), and the judgment of the end time world power symbolically termed as "Babylon the great":

The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” And there were flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, and a great earthquake such as there had never been since man was on the earth, so great was that earthquake. The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered Babylon the great, to make her drain the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath. (Rev 16:17-19)

We are told here that the occurrence of the eschatological earthquake immediately precedes the downfall of Babylon, which is symbolized by an angel hurling a millstone into the sea. The cup of wrath is further connected to the eschatological earthquake in the Book of Isaiah, where it is also called "the cup of staggering" - in which the trembling earth is compared with the intoxicated stumbling of a drunkard:

 I am the LORD your God, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar - the LORD of hosts is his name.
And I have put my words in your mouth and covered you in the shadow of my hand, establishing the heavens and laying the foundations of the earth, and saying to Zion, ‘You are my people.’
Wake yourself, wake yourself, stand up, O Jerusalem, you who have drunk from the hand of the LORD the cup of his wrath, who have drunk to the dregs the bowl, the cup of staggering.
(Isa 51:15-17)

Moreover, Isaiah also tells us not only that the entire earth will be shaken out of its very foundation during this event, but like Jeremiah, he also links the eschatological earthquake with the final gathering of the world's armies during the battle of Armageddon:

The sound of a tumult is on the mountains as of a great multitude! The sound of an uproar of kingdoms, of nations gathering together! The LORD of hosts is mustering a host for battle. They come from a distant land, from the end of the heavens, the LORD and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land. Wail, for the day of the LORD is near; as destruction from the Almighty it will come! Therefore all hands will be feeble, and every human heart will melt. They will be dismayed: pangs and agony will seize them; they will be in anguish like a woman in labor. They will look aghast at one another; their faces will be aflame. Behold, the day of the LORD comes, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger to make the land a desolation and to destroy its sinners from it. For the stars of the heavens and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be dark at its rising, and the moon will not shed its light. I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant, and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless. I will make people more rare than fine gold, and mankind than the gold of Ophir. Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, and the earth will be shaken out of its place, at the wrath of the LORD of hosts in the day of his fierce anger. 
(Isa 13:4-13)

For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble. The earth is utterly broken, the earth is split apart, the earth is violently shaken. The earth staggers like a drunken man; it sways like a hut; its transgression lies heavy upon it, and it falls, and will not rise again. (Isa 24:18-20)

The Fatima Connection

Given that the pouring out of the cup of wrath is directly connected to both the eschatological earthquake and the chastisement of the end time world power referred to as "Babylon", we can begin to understand the true significance of the vision that Sr. Lucia seen when she was instructed by the Virgin Mary to commit the Third Secret to writing on 3rd January, 1944:

Towards 16:00 hours on January 3rd, 1944, in the convent’s chapel, before the Tabernacle, Lucia asked Jesus to let her know His will: ‘I then feel that a friendly hand, affectionate and maternal, touches my shoulder.’

It is ‘the Mother of Heaven’ who says to her: ‘be at peace and write what they command you to, but not that which you were given to understand about its meaning,’ intending to allude to the meaning of the vision that the Virgin herself had revealed to her.

Right after – says Sr. Lucia – ‘I felt my spirit flooded by a light-filled mystery which is God and in Him I saw and heard: the point of the flame-like lance which detaches, touches the axis of the earth and it [the earth] shakes: mountains, cities, towns and villages with their inhabitants are buried. The sea, rivers and clouds leave their bounds, they overflow, flood and drag with them into a whirlpool, houses and people in a number unable to be counted; it is the purification of the world from the sin it is immersed in. Hatred, ambition, cause destructive wars. Afterward I felt in the increased beating of my heart and in my spirit a quiet voice which said: ‘in time, one faith, one baptism, one Church, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic. Heaven in eternity!’ This word, ‘Heaven,’ filled my heart with peace and happiness, so much so that, almost without realizing it, I continued to repeat for some time: Heaven, Heaven!’

The vision of a "flame-like lance" touching the axis of the earth here, causing a massive earthquake, directly echoes the Book of Isaiah's description of the earth being shaken out of its place (Isa 13:13) and the trembling of the foundation of the world (Isa 24:18). We now know that huge earthquakes can indeed shift the axis of the earth, given that the earth's tilt was slightly shifted during both the Indonesian earthquake of 2004, and the earthquake in Japan in 2011. The fact that this vision is directly connected to the eschatological earthquake, informs us that the subsequent portion of this private revelation is describing the destruction of Babylon foretold in the Apocalypse. So the angel threatening to strike the earth with the flaming sword seen in the Third Secret is directly associated with the eschatological earthquake and chastisement of the world power symbolically referred to as "Babylon".
The next part of Sr. Lucia's 1944 vision, which details how the eschatological earthquake levels entire mountains and cities, followed by a huge tsunami and destructive wars, is strikingly similar to the Book of Ezekiel - which speaks of how mountains will be thrown down in the wake of this earthquake, and ultimately results in the battle of Armageddon:

For in my jealousy and in my blazing wrath I declare, On that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. The fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep on the ground, and all the people who are on the face of the earth, shall quake at my presence. And the mountains shall be thrown down, and the cliffs shall fall, and every wall shall tumble to the ground. I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Lord GOD. Every man's sword will be against his brother. With pestilence and bloodshed I will enter into judgment with him, and I will rain upon him and his hordes and the many peoples who are with him torrential rains and hailstones, fire and sulfur. (Ezek 38:19-22)

Compare this with the Apocalypse:

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them... (Rev 20:7-9)

The mountains seen being thrown down here is directly equated with the "burning mountain" being thrown into the sea in Rev 8:8 - which the Book of Jeremiah connects with the destruction of Babylon by the sea:

“I will repay Babylon and all the inhabitants of Chaldea before your very eyes for all the evil that they have done in Zion, declares the LORD. “Behold, I am against you, O destroying mountain, declares the LORD, which destroys the whole earth; I will stretch out my hand against you, and roll you down from the crags, and make you a burnt mountain. (Jer 51:24-25)

“How Babylon is taken, the praise of the whole earth seized! How Babylon has become a horror among the nations! The sea has come up on Babylon; she is covered with its tumultuous waves. Her cities have become a horror, a land of drought and a desert, a land in which no one dwells, and through which no son of man passes. (Jer 51:41-43)

The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood. (Rev 8:8)

In my book Unveiling the Apocalypse: Prophecy in Catholic Tradition, I forward the hypothesis that the prophecy of the "burning mountain" being thrown into the sea foretells the future lateral collapse of the volcano Cumbre Vieja in the Canary Islands, which some of the world's most prominent geophysicists believe will generate a mega-tsunami that will devastate the east coast of the Americas, as well as parts of Western Europe and North Africa. The United States of America is currently the only dominant world power that fits the portion of the prophecy that describes the Whore of Babylon as the "great city which has dominion over the kings of the earth" (Rev 17:18). The fact that one of the chief symbols of America is embodied by a statue which was styled by its Masonic architects after the pagan goddesses Hecate/Qetesh/Asherah/Ishtar (the mythology of which forms the basis for the Whore of Babylon), can only further affirm this identification.

In Unveiling the Apocalypse, I proposed that the eschatological earthquake centred on Israel at the end time would lead to a colossal surge in volcanic activity across the North African tectonic plate. culminating in the eruption of Cumbre Vieja, at La Palma in the Canary Islands. This hypothesis was formed on passage of the Apocalypse which states that God would remember to punish Babylon the great for its sins at the occurrence of the eschatological earthquake (Rev 16:19), and the fact that the Book of Ezekiel prophesied that entire mountains would be thrown down during this colossal seismic event (Ezek 38:20). This can only mean that the geological impact of eschatological earthquake is intimately connected to the "great mountain, burning with fire" being thrown into the sea, both of which are related to the pouring out of the cup of wrath held in the hands of the Whore of Babylon. I further speculated that the results of this volcanic collapse was in some way part of the Secret of Fatima, since Sr. Lucia had specified that its contents were directly related to chapters 8-13 of the Apocalypse, and the judgment of Babylon by the burning mountain being cast into the sea is first mentioned in Rev 8:8.

This hypothesis seems to be confirmed by the recent publication of the vision seen by Sr. Lucia's in 1944, which links the angel of the Third Secret striking the earth with his flaming sword with both the occurrence of the eschatological earthquake and the destruction of Babylon by the sea during the end-time - the results of the outpouring of the cup of wrath. As Rabbi Johnathan Cahn pointed out in his bestselling book The Harbinger, before God judges a nation he always first sends a warning - as was the case during the prelude to the fall of the Northern Kingdom of Israel to Assyria in the 8th century BC. It seems then that the events of 9/11 served as such a warning and call to repentance before the pouring out of the cup of wrath. As the Book of Amos tells us, God always reveals his secrets in advance to his servants the prophets before disaster is meted out:

Is a trumpet blown in a city,
and the people are not afraid?
Does disaster come to a city,
unless the LORD has done it?
“For the Lord GOD does nothing
without revealing his secret
to his servants the prophets.
The lion has roared;
who will not fear?
The Lord GOD has spoken;
who can but prophesy?”
(Amos 3:6-8)

Given that Sr. Lucia had written to the pope in the immediate aftermath of the events of 9/11 (which took place just over a year after the revelation of the Third Secret), could it be that God had given her a new understanding of the secret revealed to his servants, the three humble shepherd children of Fatima? An understanding that the attacks on the World Trade Center identified America as being the nation Sr. Lucia saw being destroyed in the sea during her vision of 1944? There seems to be a apparent symbolism in the destruction of the two tallest towers standing in front of an idol styled after the goddesses Asherah/Ishtar, who is in turn linked in Babylonian mythology to Ninurta/Nimrod and thus to the story of the Tower of Babel and the combat against the seven headed water dragon. A statue which is not only a goddess which quite literally is the qedesha, or sacred prostitute of Babylon, but which also is based on the Colossus of Rhodes and thus is directly paralleled by the Angel of the Seven Thunders - who calls out with a voice like "a lion roaring" at the opening of the "little scroll" and the sounding of the seven thunders:

He had a little scroll open in his hand. And he set his right foot on the sea, and his left foot on the land, and called out with a loud voice, like a lion roaring. When he called out, the seven thunders sounded. (Rev 10:2-3) 

The link to the story of King Nimrod/Ninurta, the Tower of Babel and Ishtar is further compounded when we take into consideration that the events of 9/11 took place so shortly after the 1999 solar eclipse (which I argue was part of the "signs in heaven" referenced by Cardinal Bertone) - the extremely narrow path of totality of which passed directly through the ancient city of Nineveh, in Mosul, Iraq. It seems to be beyond coincidence that this exact location has recently been taken over by an Islamist terrorist organisation bearing the acronym ISIS (the name of the Egyptian equivalent of Ishtar), all as a result of the American led invasion of Iraq in the aftermath of 9/11. This new development appears to be an example of the "ripple-effect" of prophecy, which radiates out through history like recurring fractals, providing further witness to these interconnections.

What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done... there is nothing new under the sun.
(Ecc 1:9)


Anonymous said...

please see anthony socci's book the fourth secret and you will find proof that bertone is a liar. a BIG liar.
Can't use as a context for anbything. please read him before you ruin your reputation.


Anonymous said...

A rejoinder to the Socci book:


Mark L

Anonymous said...

Sr. Lucia said there was nothing new. What part of this do you not understand?

Anonymous said...

The political coincidences of Fatima secrets are too many. 1941 release of the second secret matched perfectly Hitler's attack on the Soviet Union. Now 9/11. Perhaps there is much more we were never told.

Anonymous said...

For akk of those who have written comments and may write comments after this one. It is well established and known that the great Catholic mystic of the church Maria Esperanza (who was a spiritual child of St Padre Pio and who called her our consolation after he whould leave the world) that she not only prophesized what was going to happen on 9/11 up to 9 years before it happened but that Our Lord appeared to her on Aug 25,2001 and told her that on 9/11 this attack would come. He even showed to her in a vision in advance and told her that God was not making this happen but allowing it to happen to America and the world because of the gravity of America's and the world sins. The greatest being abortion. The Twin Towers representated the power, materialism and corruption of America and the world as a whole. She told the Holy Father and the church before 9/11 what was going to happen. But the church decided not to say anything in advance to the President because Our Lord said that if Maria told the USA in advance they would not believe her as the USA has little faith. The Vatican told the White House after 9/11 what it knew. This is all well documented. I know Maria Esperanza's family and they confirmed this. I met her in March 2002 and it was a very powerful spiritual experince. It should be noted Our Lord told Maria the number that would die and that those who died and those who would live through it were chosen by God in advance. You may check with Michael Brown the owner of the web site Spirit dailey.

Anonymous said...

This sister Lucia is an impersonatop. The real Sister Lucia had a small mouth, flat nose and flat chin that almostflowed into her neck. The Fake sister's testimony contradicts sister Lucia !

Jamey said...

Unfortunately I think is true regarding fake Lucia theory so anything reported after 1960 is volatile.

Sr Lucia was the prime Catholic seer of the 20th century. After 1960 every man and woman could publicise their "visions" and "messages from heaven" whilst Lucia was silenced and effectively banished the precise decade the Third Secret was meant to be made known to the world.

Anonymous said...

The message (unreleased as of yet) that goes with the vision of the Third Secret deals with the "crisis" in the Church. As cardinal, Pope Benedict affirmed it so. (See The Ratzinger Report). The intro to the Third Secret, concerning the "Dogma of Faith) leads one to the same conclusion. Clearly the message has not been revealed because it is an indictment on the hierarchy to "the very top" according to Cardinal Ciappi who read, as also Ratzinger read, the message of the Third Secret. The indictment involves the abandonment of "the Dogma of Faith." What "Dogma" Obviously "No salvation outside the Church."

Jamey said...

"Clearly the message has not been revealed because it is an indictment on the hierarchy to "the very top"


Cardinal Oddi believed it was to do with convening VII. Same with Fatima expert Frere Michel.

Once again God makes sure people can't hide what they have done because every stat since the mid 60s indicates an annihilation of the Catholic Faith.

by my reckoning there are probably 4 people alive who have read the hidden part - Capovilla, Bertone, B16 and Francis. It is my opinion that B16 will probably end up letting it out as I don't think any of the others will and his hand may be forced by the current papacy.

Brother Michael of the Cross said...

These people will not believe, nor will a sign suffice. The warnings have been given and are enough for you. Those who believe serve God and pray, for that is all that can be done for those who are wiped out. It is always the time to do penance and to worship the Lord and believe. Those who will not believe have chosen their lot and God is glad to be rid of their pride.

Anonymous said...


You are a schismatic Catholic and are spreading innuendo and false accusations. Repent!!

Jamey said...

Was Cardinal Oddi schismatic? Was Cardinal Ciappi personal theologian to 5 popes schismatic for saying the Third Secret refers to the apostasy starting from the top?

Emmett O'Regan said...


I know that Card. Bertone gets a lot of flak from the Fatimist movement, but whatever you may think of him, he is one of the best available first hand sources on the thoughts of Sr. Lucia, having interviewing her at length on behalf of the CDF. Unless of course you adhere to the fake Sr. Lucia conspiracy theory, which I find quite bizarre. I'm surprised you lend credence to it Jamey.
This theory would require not only the complicit deception of the Roman Curia, but also everyone involved in the personal life of Sr. Lucia, including everyone who had ever known her - family, friends, fellow religious, confessors, the entire Carmelite community of Coimbra. And for what? If the Vatican hierarchy has been infiltrated by Masonic/communists/Satanists to the extent required by such conspiracy theories, then there would not be any need for such pretenses. Such a hypothetical "corrupt Vatican" could have simply discredited her by condemning the apparitions as false.
By the same token, if Pope Francis is the pinnacle of such corruption - "the apostasy at the top", as many hardcore traditionalists are currently forwarding, why not just go ahead and change doctrine on his ownsome, invoking papal infallibility? Why consult bishops in a synod? The pope's hands are not tied by anyone, and he has supreme power in the Church. But the truth is Pope Francis has not changed anything, because he simply cannot. The Holy Spirit protects the charism of the chair of St. Peter from error.

Thanks for putting up that link Mark L! This looks very interesting - I'll have to take the time to read it all carefully. It is always best to thoroughly research both sides of the arguement, and keep an open mind. Personally, I think if the Church is purposely withholding anything, it is for the protection of the Church and the Fatima movement itself. My suspicions are that it contains certain specifics which are diplomatically explosive, such as when and where the Antichrist will come to power - effectively identifying the Antichrist himself. If it pointed to a world leader who is already in power right now for example, or said that he would rise to power in say Russia or China or somewhere within the next ten years, could it really publish such a document? Could it afford to rally the entire Church in opposition towards a certain political figure, and indeed against an entire country or regime, all on the basis of a private revelation? This would make it responsible for the persecution of thousands, potentially millions, of Catholics, ahead of the appointed moment. I think the Church is trying to buy us some time, offering motherly protection to her children. There is good reason to suggest that it contains the required information to reveal the identity of the Antichrist, and expose him for who he is according to the prophecy of St. Paul:

And you know what is restraining him now SO THAT HE MAY BE REVEALED IN HIS TIME. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. AND THEN THE LAWLESS ONE WILL BE REVEALED, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.
(2Thess 2:6-8)

Jamey said...

Hi Emmett,

"I'm surprised you lend credence to it Jamey."

If I am wrong I accept it and I don't have complete certitude but if I was a betting man based on the photos and behaviour of the latter Lucia I think we are dealing with two different people. I was under the impression that friends and family were typically unable to see Lucia if they were that would put a big dent in the fake Lucia theory. Most of the photos of the latter Lucia seem to be in early 2000's when the part text was released. I haven't really seen any photos between 1970 to 2000.

I personally think the apostasy starting from the top refers in part to the imposition of the Cranmer Protestant type rite and the effective abolition of the authentic forms of worship, and the butchering we have witnessed of extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. I think this is one of the bona-fide comments of the Neues Europa secret (that Satan will truly infiltrate the highest level) and was probably the essence of Ciappi's comments.

"This theory would require not only the complicit deception of the Roman Curia"

Interestingly I have wanted to share this with you Emmett, an excellent priest and best homilist I know who does only ad-orientem Mass and trained in Rome relayed that then Cardinal Ratzinger said in 1999 the entire Curia is filled with the smoke of Satan. If it is filled with such smoke then I think terrible conspiracies are possible. When I think our poor dear Holy Father BXVI asked us to pray for him due to the wolves he was referring to the enemies internal.

You are right about some traditionalists and the pope, and the same priest above raised the point it is the work of Satan to make sure we don't pray for the pope convincing us he isn't the pope. Others and not even trads are doing an excellent job forcing pressure on the pope and Vatican not to do anything rash. A fine balance is needed and once again a spiritual tightrope walked. Personally I think this papacy could go anywhere.

Cheers mate and thanks for responding to divergent opinions from your own with class.

Jamey said...

"My suspicions are that it contains certain specifics which are diplomatically explosive, such as when and where the Antichrist will come to power - effectively identifying the Antichrist himself."

In Socci's book he says that Mehmet Agca who tried killing JPII in 1981 said in court it is time the Catholic Church released the Third Secret and the name of the Antichrist. If true how the heck would Agca have known.

Now if the Antichrist does come to power and he is in the Third Secret he can be identified by whoever is pope at the time who has the words and confirmation of the Queen of Heaven, and the faithful remaining will have certainty it is indeed the son of perdition.

Anonymous said...

I very much enjoy your writings on Unveiling the Apocolypse' and hope that it continues. It is obvious that we have entered into a very serious time with our Mother also coming every day for 34 years in Medjugorje and unveiling to us that there are 10 future events coming for humanity. How can this not be the time where we are heading into the culmination of events and a severe purification and renewal of humanity. And we should remember that even Maria Esperanza talked about the axis of the earth as well -- and now we have Sr. Lucia speaking of an actual vision in which she sees an Angel touching the axis of the earth with an instrument of purification. In regard to the 10 secrets, they must be revealed publicly in some way by the priest whom Mirjana, the one visionary, has already chosen. So for some who may think Medj is a fraud, time will tell. If no 'secrets" are revealed then yes it was. If they are, then....obviously it is real. But all of these things, along with the obviously horrific moral state humanity is in, point to moments that are already at our door, where God will warn us in even greater events to come and then afterward purify and cleanse erring humanity - and then, as Sr Lucia saw - One Church, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic.


Anonymous said...

Jamey ,

Not disputing your post (19 November 2014 13:24) but are we talking about the same +Benedict 16 (as Card. Ratzinger) who said that Lucy was making up what she saw at Fatima? Something to the effect that it was a figment of her imagination.
Hopefully he changed his mind as pope. His hand being forced is the only way this will see the light of day in the world.

jac said...

I don't agree with the link to lepantofoundation provided by Mark. There are too much discrepancies, too much contradictions all along the 40 years we spent waiting for the 3rd Secret's.
The main one lies in the press release the Vatican issued on feb 8th 1960 while the world eagerly was expecting to be told the 3rd Secret's content:
"Although the Church recognizes the Fatima apparitions, She does not desire to take the responsibility of guaranteeing the veracity of the WORDS the three shepherd children said that the Virgin Mary had addressed to them."
This is the first hand acknowledgement by the Vatican that only a part of the 3rd Secret has been unveiled since the 1960 communiqué speaks of "WORDS the Virgin adressed..." .
In the part unveiled in 2000 there are NO WORDS, only a vision given to the kids.
It is easily understandable why the Vatican has kept that part hidden for 40 years since, according to two statements made by two cardinals (card. Oddi & Ciappi) who have read it, that part deals about the apostasy in the Church. The cardinal Ciappi added this frightening sentence:
"The apostasy (in the Church) will begin AT THE TOP" .
I understand that catholic faithfuls are reluctant in acknowledging that suppressing that part of the Secret is tantamount to a lie from the Vatican. But since the communiqué of 1960 had cast doubts on the "veracity" of the WORDS of the Virgin, the Vatican is easier in hiding that part: Of course suppressing a text that one deems is a fake isn't a lie...

Jamey said...

Anon I do agree BXVI has at times made a mess of the Fatima message and like on a number of issues has flipped positions a few times. I don't think he has malice toward the Faith like others in the curia and whilst not a Traditionalist is not a despiser of them.

Anonymous said...


There is only one world leader currently alive who could even come close to meeting the description of the Antichrist, and he sits not in Russia nor China, but in the White House.

Mr. Obama (or whoever his name is since he has changed it numerous times in his own lifetime) is DIRECTLY responsible for the ongoing torture, dismemberment, and murder or the Christian communities in Egypt, Libya, Syria and Iraq: Marytrdom that was directly financed, armed and supported as part of Mr. Obama's ongoing "Arab Spring" of which ISIS is just the latest iteration.

There is only one World Leader who can claim to have more innocent Christian blood on his hands than Nero, and that man is President Obama. The entire non-Western world seems to realize this startling fact but the once-Christian West is blinded by hubris and by being the "exceptional people." And the most startling part of it all is the fact that without "Catholic" support Obama would have never been elected.

Anonymous said...


Cardinals Oddi and Ciappi never claimed that the Church authorities were lying and/or engaged in a malicious coverup - something that the Fatimist movement has been doing since that false prophet Fr. Gruner starting planting the seeds of division and disobedience.

Anonymous said...

So, Emmett, your implication seems to be (if I am reading you correctly) that the Restrainer is indeed the Holy Spirit (rather than the Roman Empire) and it will be the Church herself that decides to lift Him at the proper time in order t reveal the identity of the Antichrist? I have often thought something along those lines, and I wonder if the Antichrist's identity will remain hidden until the fulfillment of other prophecies from apparitions like Garabandal and Our Lady of All Nations. For instance, Garabandal speaks of a coming global illumination of conscience which will come as God's final act of Mercy before the Day of Judgement. And Our Lady of All Nations also speaks of the Papal proclamation of the Fifth Marian Dogma as the event which will usher in the long awaited Triumph spoken of at Fatima. If these long-awaited events finally come to pass, there will no longer be any doubt in the World that God exists, for supernatural signs will have been seen by the whole world. But, as we know from Scripture, anytime God "pulled back the veil" with supernatural signs, the restraint on Satan was also lessened: the clearest example of this is in the Old Testament when Moses the wooden staff into a living snake only to have Pharaoh's agents simulate a few miracles. Perhaps the Antichrist will come on the scene soon after the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart commences?

Emmett O'Regan said...

Thanks for the encouragement Michael - I do intend to keep blogging. Perhaps not as frequently as I did before, but I would like to be able to get at least one article up a month or so.

Jac - The recently published private revelation of Sr. Lucia mentions that the Blessed Virgin had revealed to her the meaning of the vision of the Third Secret as well - I believe these are the "words" that is being referred to.

Anon 09.45, I don't think Obama or any other US President will be the Antichrist. If the USA is the eschatlogical "Babylon", then the Antichrist and his minions the "ten kings", will destroy this great nation before handing over power to the Beast. Meaning the Antichrist will rise elsewhere. I think Russia is a good contender, since Sr. Lucia warned that this would be the instrument of God's chastisement if humanity did not repent of its sins, and Blessed Elena saw a Russian flag over St. Peter's.

Anon 9.48, I think there are a number of layers of interpretation of the "restrainer" - perhaps the most important being the chains that bind Satan for a "thousand years" (= the age of the Church). In this case, the Holy Roman Empire is indeed the restraining force, as was held in Medieval prophecy. I think the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand was an important factor in this regard, since he was among the last remnants of the Holy Roman Empire, and his death led to the outbreak of WWI, and a whole century of evil, in line with the prophecy of Pope Leo XIII. The abdication of Blessed Charles of Austria in 1918 seems to tie into this as well.
But it also refers to the Great Monarch also, upon whose death the Antichrist rises to power, according to private revelations.
I think there is an aspect of this prophecy that literally includes the unmasking of the Antichrist, and that Fatima, or some other esteemed apparition site will be involved in this. So yes, I think the triumph of the Immaculate Heart will be very close to the time of the Antichrist, since the Two Witness who accomplish this are put to death by the Beast of Revelation himself.

Anonymous said...


Rev. George Leo Haydock's Commentary (found in the 1859 Edition of the Haydock Catholic Family Bible and Commentary) on Daniel 7:7-8 makes it clear that the 10 Horns (Kings) and the little horn (Antichrist) arising with the 10 kings, are 10 kings who arise out of the Fourth Beast (Roman Empire).

In his commentary on Chapter 17 of the Book of Revelation, Rev. Haydock has this to say about Mystery Babylon:

"...interpreters are divided about the signification of Babylon: some understand Babylon the metropolis of Chaldea, where they think that antichrist will begin to reign; others understand Constantinople, the seat of the Turkish empire, which is also built upon seven hills: but many understand Rome, not Christian Rome, but Rome that was a heathen city in the first ages[centuries], and which they think will be heathen Rome again in antichrist's time...These interpreters conclude that by Babylon must necessarily be understood Rome, because it is said that seven heads, upon which the woman sitteth, are seven mountains; and it is well known that Rome is built upon seven hills; and secondly, because the woman is said to be the city, which hath dominion over the kings of the earth. But first, those seven mountains are also called seven kings; secondly, Constantinople is also built upon seven hills; thirdly, seven may be taken for many. And I cannot but take notice, that some expressions in this and in the next chapter, seem to agree better with that exposition, which takes Babylon for the multitude of all the wicked: as when we read (chap. xviii. 3.) that all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication; (ver. 23.) that all nations were deceived by her sorceries; (ver. 24.) that in her was formed the blood of the prophets, and of the saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. For though the Roman empire was of so large an extent, yet a greater part of the world was never subject to the Romans: many apostles and martyrs were not put to death at Rome, nor by the Romans, but by the Persians, and in India, &c. so these general expressions are more easily expounded, if by the great city of Babylon we understand the multitude of the wicked in all parts of the world: not but that these visions may also regard heathen Rome as the chief place where such persecutions were acted, and where all kind of vices were practices. --- N. B.[Nota Bene, Note Well?] Some have taken notice, that the English Protestants print the 5th verse of this chapter in capital letters: Mystery Babylon the great, the mother of harlots, and abominations of the earth. I will suppose that these words are only printed in this manner, because they contain an inscription; as when it is said, that he who was called the word of God, had written upon him, the King of kings, and Lord of lords, which words are also printed in great letters: but if our adversaries do this, to make the Church of Rome to be looked upon as the whore of Babylon, and the pope as antichrist, nothing can be more unfair, nothing more ridiculous, as I may shew on the following chapters. (Witham)"

Anonymous said...

Medjugorje baffles me.

I have been there twice. My first visit was around 1989. My tour guide was not a Christian (at least any more), and was getting rather tired of those she led trying to convert her.

"I'll tell you one thing though," she said. "I personally knew the lives of all those young people before these alleged apparitions, and now they are utterly different, intent only on God."

And these many years later when you hear them speak, and what they say, it's wonderful. A 35 year deception by all of them? Unlikely. A demonic subterfuge? That one is a tough one to swallow, given the remarkable fruits.

But what bothers me? If what they are saying is true, and it's so significant, they why did they just settle down and start raising families? You'd think if major world hardships awaited, at least one of them would don the hairshirt and give that kind of witness in the desert.

I know that God needs holy families too. But it just mystifies me that...they fast so much, pray so much, give their lives to these messages so much...and yet don't give any kind of personal life witness whatsoever that there is the slightest end times aspect to the years we're living in.

I wish Greg Cring were here, the author of "A While Longer." He speaks exceptionally favorably of Medjugorje, giving it great significance for the end times. I want to ask him, "If that's true, don't you think at least one of those visionaries would have lived a radically different life?

I find the whole affair baffling and don't know how to understand it.

Mark L.

Jamey said...

Anon 21 November 2014 09:38, it is nice to wake up to the news those in authority in the church are not or have ever been involved in any lies or cover ups.

Anonymous said...

Mark L.,

Medjugorje is a fraud with demonic overtones. It has been condemned by the Local Bishop from day one and will be condemned by the Vatican when their investigation is done. The Church is trying to get over the Sex Abuse Scandal but very soon there will be in the headlines the Medjugorje Scandal. Satan is very clever and knows how much damage will be done when Medjugorje is finally condemned and so many lukewarm Catholics will be unwilling to let their favorite private revelation go. Satan knows that, once again, when this Scandal hits the secular world will once again become distrustful of the Catholic Church for having let such an obvious demonic hoax continue for so long. The secular world will say: "look at those Catholics, they don't care about truth, all they care about is money and the sensationalistic." And you know what, they are right? Shame on us!!!!

Jamey said...

Mark L

The extent to which the church and humanity are under a diabolical disorienting cloud permitted by God is barely believable. In most western nations probably more than 1 in 2 mothers have aborted their children when you include the morning after pill. These are children they would have loved and cherished if they carried. I don't think these women at large really know what they do til after the fact. What I am trying to say is the testing by spirits is severe and this goes particularly for the church.

I do think you will find devout Medjugorje followers generally tend to be mentally ill and there is a reason for that.

God Bless

Jamey said...

Emmett, the Antichrist will probably rise up out of near obscurity his reign fairly sudden so that would also be another reason to rule out Obama. Cardinal Newman reckoned the Antichrist would be irresistibly eloquent another strike through Obama for those who saw him without speech cards. Obama is a mini Antichrist though. As John Vennari said Obama is capable of anything.

Anonymous said...

Jamey said:
"I do think you will find devout Medjugorje followers generally tend to be mentally ill and there is a reason for that."

What a horrible, untrue comment.

I have never been to Medjugorje and like many others are withholding judgement until the church rules one way or the other. However I know many of people who have great belief in it and has found it has enriched and brought them back to their faith in a way they never believed possible. These people are certainly not mentally unstable in any sense of the word.

Jamey said...

It is simply what I have observed. A false apparition is of the devil. Believing in something from him opens one up to spiritual illness and that becomes so much greater when the energy invested is intense.

Anonymous said...

Emmett, we are being brainwashed to look to what is in front of us like the illuminati, the pyramids, the all seeing eye, and even Putin as Gog. But we are not watching what they are protecting - Islam. Those who love Communism are being programmed to accept Islamic Fascism. Believe me Putin is not programming anyone to accept this religion.

Babylon is mentioned in the bible as Saudi Arabia, not Iraq, New York, Rome, etc. "Arabia is the mouthpiece (mouth of a lion), which Islam emanates from. It is the Harlot from the desert island (Rev 17:3) that sits on many waters, the "desert of the sea" (Isaiah 21, which John saw. It is the desert where Christ warned us about (Matthew 24:22, and is referred to as "Babylon is fallen is fallen" in (Isaiah 21).

Turkey is where the province of Pergamum (Rev 2:12-13)is located. This is where Christ proclaimed would be the future seat of Satan. Both Saudi Arabia and Turkey are influencing the West's foreign policy today. Europe and America are funding their own destruction. We are funding the purchase of military weapons to an enemy that will eventually use them against us.

I wish Emmett you would focus more on what is truly happening with today's foreign policy in the Middle East. This is the region of focus for the Antichrist. Father Gobbi was correct. The person of the Antichrist will come about from the religion of Freemasonry and Islam. It is the Global Freemasons who aid Islam that want Americans, Europeans, including Russia to hate their government system in order to replace it with a system already in place. Even Israel falls for this manipulation. Israelis mistakenly trust Turkey and the Saudis over Russia. Turkey is already walking towards the kingdom of the Antichrist. The Ottoman Empire is getting stronger once again.

Anonymous said...


The answer to Bertone


Anonymous said...

So, I watched the video. Fr. Kramer is obviously a sedevanatist. What are his credentials? Is he a real priest? Of what order? Who is his bishop? He claims that the Church and the world will be overthrown by the Mason's who are really controlled by Zionists?? Okey dokey! There are too many conflicting theories going on in this thread.

Anonymous said...

So Fr. Kramer is considered a sede. Does this automatically prove his info false? Of course not. He likely turned sede because of how he viewed the church because of the circumstances of Fatima. So Bertone is right because he is a "loyal" catholic? Get real.

Anonymous said...

The brilliance of disinformation used by communists over the years is the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor of credibility. And Father Kramer and his disciples have used this same propaganda as a weapon against the Church and the Pope.

Kramer does not hesitate to twist the facts of Freemasonry in the world in order to distort the truth about his own organization. His favorite method of distortion is to launch personal attacks against his opponents, and most importantly against Pope Francis. This is such a favorite communist principle that has been used since the days of Karl Marx.

To believe in Father Kramer, is to be one of the many "useful idiots" who were used to overthrow the Russian aristocracy.

In order to break the arrows of communist propaganda in the church today, we must follow our Pope and the magisterium. Pope Francis is not an antipope, but those disciples of the so-called Father Kramer, sure are gullible enough to believe in the "Big Lie."

"If you tell a lie big enough keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

And the Big Lie is that Pope Francis is the False Prophet.

Anonymous said...

Another "Big Lie" propaganda is how those same Father Kramer disciples distorted the true meaning of Vatican II. These clever communists have been trying to use Vatican II, against the Church for years.

Never underestimate a Freemason. Their job is to always divide the Church.

Anonymous said...

Sweeping generalizations you make. Care to back them up? I don't need to believe in Fr. Kramer per se. He wasn't the first to say there were major problems with the official Fatima story.

Anonymous said...

Again, What are his credentials? Is he a real priest? Of what order? Who is his bishop?

Anonymous said...

It's up to you to prove your supposed assertions, slander aside. Whether he is a valid priest or not is not at the heart of this but whether he is correct or not. He could have been a lay person providing his opinion. Prove to us he is not correct. He is a very holy and highly intelligent priest. His warnings are from approved apparitions like Our Lady of Fatima, Akita, and Good Success that warn about problems coming from within the Vatican. Look no further than Cardinal Ciappi warning us the apostasy will begin at the top.

Anonymous said...

The apostasy began with Adam and Eve. The great battle between God and Satan, between the forces of good and those evil has existed since the beginning of time here on earth. To blame the apostasy on just "the top" of the hierarchy in the Vatican is such a conspiratorial masonic plan. And to concentrate only on the supposed "hidden" version of Fatima is to deliberately avoid the most important message of Our Lady of Fatima. Which is to say the Rosary, practice fasting, ask for Confession, receive the Eucharist, and go to mass the first five Saturdays for the conversion of Russia and the whole world.

But no some of you prefer to bash the hierarchy and accuse Pope Francis of being an anti-pope, or better yet, speak of the world chastisement that will envelope the world and doom us all! I mean just listen to yourselves, it's always soooooooo negative. Do you ever see any beauty in the world? I mean geesh, cry me a river!

Our Lady is building her triumph during these times, in these years in which Satan has built his own. But you won't see her triumph when it comes, because you will be too busy complaining about the atheistic pagan society that our Pope Francis is part of in order to destroy the Catholic Church. You are too blind to notice that Pope Francis is one of her little servants that she's been building up silently. She makes him live for God, in the observance of his law, in the grace of God, in the practice of Christian virtues. But you are too blind to see our Pope Francis with eyes of love. You are too blind to see the true bishops, priests, nuns and those who are faithful to the Pope that have been formed by Our Lady. She is lifting her mantle to show you the cohort she has formed in every part of the world, but you still refuse to accept them.

Instead you hold on to the negative views of a so called Fr Kramer. Where are his views that help our Church to unite?

How can one best prepare spiritually for the events to come? By living the consecration to her Immaculate Heart with love, compassion and unity. Living it in the present is the key, and not being bitter with the past. This will help us all in the future to actually see her final triumph. Otherwise some of you may just miss it.

Anonymous said...

To say Cardinal Ciappi is part of the masonic plan in any way is to demean what he and others correctly deemed a very big threat to the church, but also what Pius 12 said, to which you dismiss as poppycock. You sound like a Medj. fan who sees a rose colored world in which the pope cannot do any wrong, that ecumenism is the answer for everything.
Your point of the 5 Saturdays etc. is what Our Lady wanted but we've seen the results of this, haven't we? A resounding NO from the adherents of this church. That a VERY large % of catholics use birth control etc. should make you understand we cannot view this in the same manner as you. The point of this leads to one thing: we are at a critical juncture , one of chastisement , upon the CHURCH as well as the world, and it will eventually convince some of the clergy to say, "we give up" and follow what Our Lady and Our Lord wanted, based upon what Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque said in 1689 to the King of France.

Anonymous said...

My original post regading Bertone came across with bitterness! However it was not harsh enough.
PLease read the fourth secret by
Socci and/orvisit the website of the fatimacrusader and fatima tv.
There is a daily explanation and unvailing of the 3rd secret.

Good luck

For the person who asked for Fr Kramers curriculum vitae, please do some homework before you embarrass yourself further.
Also look up the AKITA apparitions.
good luck

Anonymous said...

Wow. So much anger in the Fr. Kramer apologists. Makes me question whether or not the "fruit is of the Spirit."

Anonymous said...

Seems like Mariana has gone anon.

Anonymous said...

Yep, Freemasons have most certainly infiltrated the Church.

Father Gruner and Father Kramer sound like good candidates. As do the Fatima conspiracy nuts and the rest of the disobedient "traditionalists" who like to play Pope.

Ever notice how Freemasons always stick together, regardless of political affiliation. This is the dead giveaway, and can be seen on the current political stage as both Left and Right have been demonizing Russia and Putin. Catholics also seem to be united in their demonization of Putin: George Weigel, Chris Ferrara, the forum moderators at Catholic Answers, and many other public "Catholic" voices come to mind. I wouldn't doubt if many of these voices are Freemasons infiltrators.

Russia is the key to the message of Fatima. No other nation was mentioned by name. The Church has told us that the 1984 Consecration was accepted by Heaven. Russia has converted from state-imposed Atheism and the dialogue is underway that we hope will mend the Eastern Schism. Satan fears this most of all, because if the Orthodox Church achieves full communion with the Catholic Church, East and West will be reunited and a major victory will be accomplished that will snowball like a spiritual avalanche into more and more victories of communion and reunification. Freemasonry cannot allow this as the foundation of their Satanic power is dependent on a divided Mystical Body of Christ.

So, just keep your eyes on Russia and the unfolding tension with the West. Russia now has the good favor of the Woman; the West is now the seat of Satan. The question now becomes: do Western Catholics REALLY want reunification with the Orthodox, or are they content with maintaining the lucrative, Freemason world order - one which has been built and is sustained on mountains of lies and the blood of the martyrs. Russia stands ready to respond: either as reunited brother or as the instrument of God's justice on the wicked West.

Anonymous said...


Here are 3 versions.

This attempt is from study. Frere Michael wrote the 3 volume work Fatima the whole truth.

In the end he speculates what it may contain,This was his educated guess...

‘in Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved,’ in many nations, perhaps in almost the entire world, the Faith will be lost. The pastors of the Church will fail gravely in the duties of their office. Through their fault, consecrated souls and the Faithful in great number will let themselves be seduced by pernicious errors spread everywhere. This will be the time of the decisive battle between the Blessed Virgin and the devil. A wave of diabolical disorientation will be hurled over the world. Satan will introduce himself even to the highest summit of the Church. He will blind the minds and harden the hearts of pastors. And God will deliver them to themselves as a chastisement for their refusal to obey the requests of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This will be the great apostasy predicted for the ‘last times’; ‘the False Lamb’ and ‘False Prophet’ will betray the Church to the profit of ‘the Beast,’ according to the prophecy of the Apocalypse."

Another version was first published in a German magazine in 1963 'Neues Europa'

While this version was a fake, it may contain much of the truth.

A great chastisement will fall on the entire human

race; not today as yet, not tomorrow, but in the second

half of the Twentieth Century.

No longer does order reign anywhere and Satan

will reign over the highest places directing the

course of events. He (Satan) really will succeed in

infiltrating to the top of the Church.

Also for the Church a time of Her greatest trials

will come. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals; Bishops

will oppose Bishops and Satan will march amid

their ranks, and in Rome there will be changes.

What is rotten will fall, and what will fall will never

rise again.

The Church will be darkened and the world deranged

by terror.

A great war will break out within the second half

of the Twentieth Century. Fire and smoke will fall

from Heaven, the water of the oceans will become

vapors and the foam will rise up and flooding and

sinking everything. Millions and millions of people

will die by the hour and the survivors will envy the


Death will reign everywhere for the errors committed

by the foolish and by the partisans of Satan,

who, then and only then, will reign over the world.

At last, those who will survive all of these events

will once more proclaim God and His Glory and

serve Him like before, when the world was not so


Anonymous said...

And then another version

In May of 1994 -- 77 years after Our Lady first appeared to the three children at Fatima, Portugal -- a French priest by the name of Raymond Arnette was listening to a CD entitled "Mysterium Fidei," with French lyrics and sung by French choirs. As he was listening devoutly, suddenly the music faded into the background and a clear voice, which was perceived quite normally and not as an interior inspiration, said: "L'eglise saignera de toutes ses plaies", that is, "The Church will bleed from all her wounds."

Then, there followed this text:

There will be a wicked council planned and prepared that will change the countenance of the Church. Many will lose the Faith; confusion will reign everywhere. The sheep will search for their shepherds in vain. A schism will tear apart the holy tunic of My Son. This will be the end of times, foretold in the Holy Scriptures and recalled to memory by Me in many places. The abomination of abominations will reach its peak and it will bring the chastisement announced at La Salette. My Son's arm, which I will not be able to hold back anymore, will punish this poor world, which must expiate its crimes. One will only speak about wars and revolutions. The elements of nature will be unchained and will cause anguish even among the best (the most courageous). The Church will bleed from all Her wounds. Happy are they who will persevere and search for refuge in My Heart, because in the end My Immaculate Heart will triumph.

After this message, Fr. Arnette only heard one more sentence: "This is the Third Secret of Fatima."

Lastly we should look at what Sr Lucia herself said. "It’s in the Gospel and in the Apocalypse, read them! Particularly indicated Chapters VIII through XIII of the Apocalypse' (Chapter XIII specifically concerns the rise of the Antichrist).

mariana said...

Anon 23:22....totally agree with you. I read Terelya the Ukrainian seer's prophecies, and it all seems to be coming true. Russia is the key for her triumph. Thanks for your input.

Anonymous said...

Anon 23:22 - mariana, the same person?

You be the judge!

Anonymous said...

In the early 1950’s, Fr. Villa was informed by Padre Pio that he had been personally chosen by our Lord to “defend the Church of Christ from the work of Freemasonry, especially the ecclesiastical Freemasonry”.

Fr. Villa arrives at a different conclusion that Anon 2322.

mariana said...

NO Anon 23:22 is not me. Wish I knew who he or she is. Why are some only signing anonymously? Anyway, a Merry Christmas to all including you Jamey dear.

Anonymous said...

To Anon 21 December 2014 at 23:22


Putin has not relinquished his communism as some are believing.

mariana said...

With Putin receiving 85% approval ratings in his own country, really doubtful he's a communist. Try looking at Turkey's Erdogan who just freed a young man who criticized him and the government. The man is out of prison, but he is still not considered innocent and is awaiting trial. Why don't you Anonymous point out the real communists?

Anonymous said...

The high approval rating indicates they want a return to communism. There is still the body of Lenin in Red Square. Putin has not relinquished communism.

mariana said...

Putin is not a communist, he's a nationalist who is concerned for his country's unity. What is wrong with that?

More than half of Russians still view Lenin as a political figure, and in 2011, 50.79% of Russians were against Lenin's reburial. But fortunately only 34% in 2010 considered Lenin "a most important figure." So, things are changing for the better.

Even though burying Lenin would be a powerful symbolic gesture to close an era of communism, Putin knows it should be decided when 2/3 of the country will accept it quietly and not go into the streets. The time is not right just yet. Although Putin has been careful not to mention Lenin by name, he has essentially called him a traitor.

Putin does not suppress free markets, he has not stolen private property, he has not persecuted the Church, he has not assaulted the history, traditions, ethics of the Russian people like the Bolsheviks did in 1917.

Instead of damning Russia every 5 minutes and calling Putin the Antichrist maybe we should look at our own countries. Let's not deny the unraveling of our own Constitutions and rule of law by our governments in the West.

From the CIA torture programs, to the government spying on its own citizens, or the NDAA law signed by Obama that strips citizen rights to legal representation or trial, I'd say, we may not have a Lenin in Red Square, but our White House is sure looking more red every day.

If Obama is not the Antichrist, he is paving the road for one to come, and that one will be accepted by the Israeli's. But then so was Obama at first.

mariana said...

I do believe Malachi Martin was right when he wrote, "God has chosen the Russians as the instrument of both chastisement and salvation."

In reference to Anonymous - 21:47, I agree. Saudi Arabia is the true future Babylon. And they are in cahoots with Israel, the current U.S. White House, and Turkey/United Kingdom. All of these countries against the mighty Russia and it's hold on oil and gas.

Let's not forget the many statues in England that depict Greek and Egyptian mythology. New York's Statue of Liberty is not the only goddess in a city. London's statue of Victory next to the memorial stands with a lion and holds a torch too.

All these countries have drunk the wine of oil and riches from the "whore of Babylon." Saudi Arabia and OPEC control the price of the world's oil. This is where it's at.

The Antichrist will accept Islam (the False Prophet), Protestantanism, Free Masonry, and Atheistic Communism as truths. So far, Putin is the least of all world leaders who finds all of the above to be more truthful than true Christianity.

Anonymous said...

Lenin, put it simply: "First we will take Eastern Europe, then the masses of Asia. We will encircle the last bastion of capitalism, the United States of America. We will not need to fight. It will fall as a ripe fruit into our hands." And, "We must practice coexistence with other nations, until we are strong enough to take over by means of world revolution.... We are not pacifists. Conflict is inevitable. Great political questions can be solved only through violence.... It is inconceivable that Communism and capitalism can exist side by side. Inevitably one must perish.''

Rykov, Lenin's successor in the Council of Soviet Commissars, corroborated: "It is our duty to inculcate in the minds of nations the theories of international friendship, pacifism, and disarmament, encouraging their resistance to military appropriations and training, without ever relaxing our own efforts in building our military equipment.''

Manuilsky, a prominent Soviet professor at the School of Political Warfare, said: "The bourgeoisie will have to be put to sleep. We shall begin by Launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There will be electrifying overtures and unheard-of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate in their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends."

Khrushchev said: "We cannot expect Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find out they have Communism.''

Putin is part of this plan. He is on record lamenting the collapse of the Soviet Union as "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century." It was worse, apparently, than World War I, worse than World War II -- worse, even, than the creation of the Soviet Union. His government has tried to help by commissioning guidelines and books that present a more balanced picture of Joseph Stalin, described in one approved volume as "the most successful Soviet leader ever." In fact, Putin really wants to commend a dictator who, if he was not the most savage and destructive criminal of the 20th Century, certainly ranks in the top three, with Hitler and Mao. The efforts at rehabilitation may be working. One poll found that 54 percent of young Russians think Stalin was "a wise leader."

To reach that conclusion, you have to excuse or forget the biggest events of Stalin's quarter-century rule, which left vast piles of corpses. His first notable "achievement" was trying to raise agricultural output by forcing millions of peasant farmers into collective farms -- while wiping out supposedly prosperous farmers whom he condemned as vicious class enemies. In what a Marxist scholar later called "probably the most massive warlike operation ever conducted by a state against its own citizens," hordes of peasants were killed or sent to Siberia.

The new textbooks suggest that Stalin's methods, though harsh, served the important need of bringing about economic progress. But the collectivization drive brought on a famine that was one of the worst the world has ever seen.

Don’t be so naïve marianne. We have a ways to go before the consecration of Russia is actually done and its benefits obvious

Anonymous said...

Anon said

> Don’t be so naïve marianne.

And then Anon said:

"Lenin, put it simply: "First we will take Eastern Europe, then the masses of Asia...."

He never said that. This has been repeatedly debunked.


Mark L.

Anonymous said...

Mark L./mariana

Prof. Dr. Ing. Libor Brom
(1923 - 2006)

Libor Brom was professor of Foreign Languages and Literatures and director of Russian Area Studies at the University of Denver. He is the author of nine books and a great deal of studies in the field of Slavic culture and civilization.
In addition, he has lectured at numerous institutions of learning and before many civic and religious groups on education, literature, and international relations. He has appeared on three continents and often on radio and television.
A native Czechoslovakian, Dr. Brom was an American citizen. He received his education at the Czechoslovak Institute of Technology, School of Economics, the Charles University of Prague, School of law, the San Francisco State University, and the University of Colorado.
In Europe, Dr. Brom served as an economist and lawyer in International Business and as the chief planner in the research. development, and normalization of Czechoslovak river shipbuilding.
As a professor in the United States, he was selected by the Modern Language Association of America as the Teacher with Superlative Performance, named The American by Choice in Colorado, and received a National Americanism Medal.
In the College Book by the Ballantine Books of New York, 1984 he is named Denver University's best professor.
Dr. Brom served in the leadership of many national and international organizations and was imprisoned by both the Nazis and the Communists. He is listed in Who'S Who in America and Who's Who in the World.

Whether a true or inaccurate statement by Lenin, (and you will have to disprove all the other statements to convince me there is no worldwide communist threat) this gentleman was a professor who claims Lenin did state this.
Your tack of linking me with being naïve misses the main point of my post- and that is communism is not dead. This is the naivete of those who will not accept it.
Plus the fact that defectors have given their expertise claiming that communism is not dead but have planned this ruse from the birth of this evil movement.

Anonymous said...

what about this locutions? consecration of russia in 2016 maybe ?
peter d.

mariana said...

Anon...Lenin also said, "It is inconceivable that communism and capitalism can exist side by side." So, then you Anon, believe the fact that Russians feel more secure, have a better standard of living, can practice their religion freely, and are encountering less corruption in their nation today more so than ever to be a "communist" plan? All of this freedom they are finally receiving is just a sinister facade in order to trick the capitalistic nations to trust Russia? With all due respect, but the trust created by hard work and mutual effort that led to the end of the Cold War has collapsed not because of Russia tricking the world, but instead has been the concerted effort by the U.S. to bring chaos into Russia through its sanctions, and their NATO/CIA efforts that have undermined the Crimea government against Russia. Has Russia undermined the U.S. or Europe's governments by paying millions to oust our Presidents?

For your information, Stalin's targeting civilians by starving, murdering, and exterminating has been a commom practice ever since the World Wars, but its roots lie in U.S. President Lincoln's war. Lincoln's actions were illegal, unconstitutional, and criminal. He had his Generals attack U.S. cities full of women and children and burn them to the ground. He carried a blockade that starved thousands and thousands of Southerners.

Although the Civil War of the USA was horrific, Lincoln's assasination made him sympathetic in the eyes of the public. He is considered a martyr today, when in reality he was a true monster. His letter's were racist and hateful towards the black man. In fact, the war was never about freeing the slaves, it was more about the federal government exerting complete control over all citizens. Quite similar to Stalin huh?

Lincoln won the war...the victor's write the history books, even when they tell lies.

And so it is with Russia too. It takes time for a nation to build itself again and heal. If the U.S. was able to do it, why can't Russia? Or is the West only allowed to move on from their atrocities?

Anonymous said...

Hi Peter D,
I too find locutions.org messages intriguing. However, we must maintain a degree of skepticism as they have not yet been examined and approved by the relavent Bishop. There is a Fr. Esseff that offers much encouragement but we will have to have patience with this. Do you recall Maria Divine Mercy, another 'anonymous' locutionist? Many of those messages appeared to be okay. However, they were laced with subversive anti-church sentiment.
Many of my Catholic friends note that we should stick to approved apparitions and messages and generally speaking, these Catholics live their sacramental faith and not worry about anything beyond public revelation.
Peter, you like many others including myself, sound as though you may be yearning for the fulfillment of the Fatima promises.
God bless you,

Anonymous said...

Your answers are within.

Start at the 58.00 mark.



Anonymous said...

Cardinal Bertone also it seems played a role of betrayal in the career of the Vatican Bank director nearly around the time that Pope Benedict resigned. http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2015/01/08/cardinal-pell-should-look-into-why-i-was-ousted-says-former-vatican-bank-chairman/

Anonymous said...


You said "This theory would require not only the complicit deception of the Roman Curia, but also everyone involved in the personal life of Sr. Lucia, including everyone who had ever known her - family, friends, fellow religious, confessors, the entire Carmelite community of Coimbra. And for what"

The pictures don't lie, different woman altogether and not so hard to pull of when you consider she's a cloistered nun, not even her own family would see her behind the grate. Fellow religious? They moved her around. This doesn't even get into the WEIRD stuff the fake Sr Lucia did such as kiss JP2 the awesome's hand after receiving communion, wearing lipstick??!! Would a saint do this? But again, go back to the pictures. Did the monastery have an awesome dental plan or what? To fix the beautiful but crooked peasant teeth of the real sister Lucia with those straight pearly whites? C'mon, what's the explanation for this?

Emmet I've noticed form many of your posts, you dig into one prophecy or another, then you spin in a ton of material and then at the end you faithfully carry the water for Vatican 2.

Here's what we do know about the 3rd secret "in Portugal, the dogma of the faith will always be preserved etc..."

What does that mean? It means it WON'T be kept everywhere else thanks to the horrendous "council" which is why she insisted the secret be read in 1960. It wasn't, it was silenced and Sr. Lucia removed from the scene, never to be heard from again.

Anonymous said...

"Russia is the key to the message of Fatima. No other nation was mentioned by name"

3rd secret "In PORTUGAL the dogma of the faith will always be preserved, etc...

Anonymous moron you are.

Anonymous said...

Emmet Please release at least one writing per month

Medjugorje why so much vitriol toward it? The fruits of it have never been seen before. And why would anyone make up that they have been seeing the Holy Virgin every day for 34 years AND attach to that - that they will then predict future world shaking events, by revealing the secrets they have been given. Psychologically, no one who has faked an apparition or locution has come up with all of that. Regardless of everyone's opinion. The Secrets will either happen..........or not happen. In the meantime - we know that we are living in a major time of upheaval and that it is only going to intensify greatly. And so, Prayer, Fasting, Mass, Scripture, and living in the Will of the Father.

Anonymous said...

Russia is pursuing an all-out third world war against the West in a necessarily secretive way, and it appears Moscow's plans are nearing a violent phase.


Anonymous said...

I want to sat I do not post as a means to correct, rather as a hopeful addition to what many are interested .
I read and enjoy your style and topics. Please continue



mariana said...

Oh for pete's sakes, a WWIII scenario for Russia would devastate it. A WWIII would not be good for anyone in the world. The sanctions have brought the ruble to the ground, thanks to the U.S. Putin is trying to survive this drama. What the U.S. is doing is just bringing about another Pearl Harbor. After all, China and Russia are united.

mariana said...

And as for Sister Lucia's appearance, it was altered because of dentures. Notice her eyes, nose and jaw are the same. Her teeth did change her look, but that's natural when one puts on dentures, and she became more plump with age too. There is only one Sister Lucia, to think otherwise is insane.

Anonymous said...

Uh oh,
Russia cut gas exports to Europe by 60 per cent today, plunging the continent into an energy crisis ‘within hours’ as a dispute with Ukraine escalated.

This morning, gas companies in Ukraine said that Russia had completely cut off their supply.

Six countries reported a complete shut-off of Russian gas shipped via Ukraine today, in a sharp escalation of a struggle over energy that threatens Europe as winter sets in.

It has to begin sometime...

mariana said...

Yep, Europe will feel it. Another Pearl Harbor. What did they expect for Putin to roll and play to commands? Ummm no.

Anonymous said...

Ah yes, Putin can do no wrong. Putin's worth is estimated between $45 Billion and $70 Billion. I guess that's the net result of being a good 'Christian'. He's really looking out for his people. If Russia invades Europe , I guess that means they provoked him. He's protected by heaven I guess. You have an amazing grip on naiveté.

mariana said...

You are the only one naive enough to think that if we provoke a bear, he will sit quietly while he gives up his porridge. I personally don't care for Putin, but I most certainly do not want to provoke him, Iran or China.

Anonymous said...

"What did they expect for Putin to roll and play to commands? Naive enough to think that if we provoke a bear?"

Provoke a bear and to roll and play to commands? What is Europe doing to provoke Russia ,to this treatment? Not paying their bill?
Explain this

mariana said...

www.foreignaffairs.com - How the West Caused the Ukraine...

www.theguardian.com - It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war

www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian - plane-crash-lies-and...by/5391913 Malaysian plane crash: Lies and Sinister Political Agenda

www.economist.com/...explains/.../economist-explain-21 Next the Economist explains:who the Ukrainian rebels are


Russia is moving troops within its borders, because the U.S is sending troops to Poland and the Baltic States. It's very clear to those who want to see the truth that Russia is being provoked.

Anonymous said...

Mariana said "There is only one Sister Lucia, to think otherwise is insane."

I think you're actually insane Mariana. Google the side by side pictures, different brow line, upturned nose vs downturn, different smile, upturned mouth vs. downturned. This doesn't even get into the weird, bizarre behavior of the imposter such as kissing the pope's hand after receiving Holy Communion.

It's very simple, Our Lady gave a message to the people that was to be read to the people before Vatican 2. It was not done, the message was locked away, lied about and the messenger was taken Lord only knows where.

Unknown said...

The Remnant is not a SSPX publication.

Emmett O'Regan said...

Thanks for pointing that out Daniel! My mistake...

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Sandpiper said...

I agree. They are not the same woman. There is a huge scam afoot.

Aunt Linda said...

Do you know of the Nostradamus Quatrain 97, Century VI that seem to describe 9/11/01. (my last name at birth was Norman), In 2017-2018, I saw two signs, had one vision, and heard a third sign all surrounding the 100 and 101 anniversaries of the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima. These also occurred at Five wounds Portuguese Catholic Church in San Jose, CA. This church was constructed during the time of the apparitions at Fatima. One sign that I saw, One vision, and one sign that I heard were FROM highway 101 at Five Wounds Church, 101 years after the Miracle of the sun at Fatima. I was raised Catholic, but was never taught about any Marian apparitions. I first hear of the Fatima Miracle of the Sun on 9/13/2017, and that day I saw my first sign at Five Wounds. This was 99 and 11 years after the miracle of the Sun at Fatima. I am not making this up, only God could orchestrate so many coincidences. Just call me Mrs. Nobody.-Linda