Prophecy in Catholic Tradition
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It was a great show. Thank you. Reading over all of your connections are facinating. Wondered if you have ever given any thought to our president and vice President names "Trump"+"Pence" as Trumpets? It seems like it should mean something, but what I'm not sure, if anything at all. Just wondered your thoughts. Thanks.
Vaccines now being used to harvest biometric identities of everyone; Big Brother merges with Big Pharmahttps://www.dcclothesline.com/2019/10/24/vaccines-now-being-used-to-harvest-biometric-identities-of-everyone-big-brother-merges-with-big-pharma/Natural News) It’s all happening, just as we predicted. Big Pharma is officially partnering with the tech industry to pair “immunization” with digital biometrics, meaning humans will soon be microchipped, tracked, and ultimately controlled through a global identification matrix.The ID2020 Alliance, as it’s being called, is a digital identity program that aims to “leverage immunization” as a means of inserting tiny microchips into people’s bodies. In collaboration with the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunizations, also known as GAVI, the government of Bangladesh and various other “partners in government, academia, and humanitarian relief,” the ID2020 Alliance hopes to usher in this mark of the beast as a way to keep tabs on every human being living on Earth.chris
Emmett; very well said and presented. I was a bit surprised, as my mind had you as an older gentlemen. This makes your contribution towards the Catholic culture and discussion even more impressive.WELL DONE!!Chris
skeptical?https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccinesThe ID2020 Alliance has launched a new digital identity program at its annual summit in New York, in collaboration with the Government of Bangladesh, vaccine alliance Gavi, and new partners in government, academia, and humanitarian relief.The program to leverage immunization as an opportunity to establish digital identity was unveiled by ID2020 in partnership with the Bangladesh Government’s Access to Information (a2i) Program, the Directorate General of Health Services, and Gavi, according to the announcement.“We are implementing a forward-looking approach to digital identity that gives individuals control over their own personal information, while still building off existing systems and programs,” says Anir Chowdhury, policy advisor at a2i. “The Government of Bangladesh recognizes that the design of digital identity systems carries far-reaching implications for individuals’ access to services and livelihoods, and we are eager to pioneer this approach.”Gavi CEO Seth Berkley says that 89 percent of children and adolescents who do not have identification live in countries where the organization is active. “We are enthusiastic about the potential impact of this program not just in Bangladesh, but as something we can replicate across Gavi-eligible countries, providing a viable route to closing the identity gap,” he says.A partnership was also formed earlier this year between Gavi, NEC, and Simprints to use biometrics to improve vaccine coverage in developing nations.“Digital ID is being defined and implemented today, and we recognize the importance of swift action to close the identity gap,” comments ID2020 Executive Director Dakota Gruener. “Now is the time for bold commitments to ensure that we respond both quickly and responsibly. We and our ID2020 Alliance partners, both present and future, are committed to rising to this challenge.”ID2020 also announced new partnerships and provided progress reports on initiatives launched last year. Since last year’s summit, the ID2020 Alliance has been joined by the City of Austin, UC Berkeley’s CITRIS Policy Lab and Care USA.The City of Austin, ID2020, and several other partners are working together with homeless people and the service providers who engage with them to develop a blockchain-enabled digital identity platform called MyPass to empower homeless people with their own identity data.chris
If you can't view it here, try to watch it on Fr. Heilman's US Grace Force website, Mark W.https://usgraceforce.com/grace-force-podcast-episode-11-emmett-oregan/
When I was in school, they were still teaching that the Book of Job was pretty much a "morality play" type of thing, largely because most Bible scholars at the time couldn't see God making a "wager" of any sort with Satan. But as I continue to learn and observe, I CAN see it. Satan, in his pride, insists he can destroy the Church. I can see where all these scandals have to happen before the restoration, because when the Church emerges, still very much alive, a lot of people are going to say, "Wow, the Church really IS indefectible. And if that's true, everything ELSE she's ever taught must be true, too!" And that's going to lead many to say, "What have we done?!" And repentance is going to follow. .Before his death, Father Nicholas Gruner used to say that Satan is really getting desperate, because he knows his time is short. His desperation has become more and more obvious to those with the eyes to see. The pace of evil's progression has picked up exponentially just in the last three or four years. Things that were unthinkable as recently as 2017 have become commonplace. .I'm with Father Heilman; it can't be long now. Evil has gotten to the point that it's driving people to do something about it. Just a few days ago, ChurchPop linked to a video showing a group of people breaking into the conference room where the Amazon synod was meeting, swiping the Pachamama idols, and throwing them into the Tiber. I think this incident is going to turn out to be the one that opens the floodgates. It'll be slow at first, and we'll probably only hear about at sites like ChurchPop, Crisis Magazine, and OnePeterFive, etc. But it will eventually increase to the point that the mainstream media will no longer be able to ignore it. The darkness can never completely overcome the light.
I just figured out how to get it to work. Long story that involves stupidity on my part.Emmett - I had it in my mind that you'd be about 20 years older. (Or perhaps you're just very well preserved.) But the voice and brogue are almost exactly as I'd imagined them. I'll listen to the whole thing over the weekend. Can't do it all in one go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jFmjOTUUDEThe Great Prophecy - From Fatima to MedjugorjeThis video was made by Stephen Ryan author of Best-selling Catholic thriller "The Madonna Files" chris
You think the removal of pagan idols from a church was wrong? You realize Pope Francis today confirmed they were pachamama statues?
Or are you intending it the other way, that the placement of the idols was wrong and the laity did good by throwing them out?
Kep, I meant it the other way: the placement of the idols was wrong, and throwing them out was an act of protest by the laity. The first example, in my opinion, of people striking back against evil...because it's not just the placement of the idols, but also the fact that they opened that synod with an act of pagan worship, according to an article in Crisis Magazine - or was it at OnePeterFive? I don't remember which right now...
This is great, Emmett! Awesome job! YOU finally have a YouTube presence now- not someone else plagiarizing your work. I like the point you made right before the first break. The binding of Satan has to do with the ability of the Gospel to be spread, not necessarily a reduction in evil. It’ll be interesting to see how this will all play out. Also, it took a few min for my ears to get used to your accent! Haha!
Yes, the world and Church are in a terrible state right now. There are many private revelations that offer solutions. There is one in particular that concerns America: the request made by Our Lady of America to have her statue solemnly processed by the US Bishops to the National Basilica in D.C. Our Lady promised that once this happens, greater miracles (spiritual, not physical) than occurred at Lourdes will occur in the United States. Let that sink in: GREATER spiritual miracles than the physical miracles at Lourdes!! With all the division and discord present in the world and the Church, I believe it is time for the US Bishops to take radical action and finally honor Our Lady of America's request. I have already petitioned my local bishop to honor this very simple request by Our Lady, and I suggest that any American readers of Emmett's blog here do the same. Urgent action is needed, and Our Lady's request is so easy to honor.
I really enjoyed this video. I can't wait to read your book.
I'm keeping well Mark! I'm still staying in Belfast. I just commute to Dublin two days a week to do my MPhil classes.
At 42, I'm no spring chicken Mark W, lol.
Hi Emmett, I thought the video was really good. Try and do some more if you can. Also your view that the end of Satan's reign could be next year 2020 gives all Catholics a sense of hope. I live in England and the nuttiness and the power of these neoliberal extremists in our country has reached a point were free speech has almost gone. Our democracy is very much endangered and religious liberty is also under real threat. May the triumph of Our Lady's Heart come soon.God bless.Anthony W
Anthony, there's real hope for your country in the very near future, with the planned Walsingham event. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
The idols that some people took and threw into the Tiber have been recovered. I don't know if they're back on display or not, but Fr. Nix wrote a very good article about the debate over positive vs. permissive will of God. This closing quote is particularly striking:"If tomorrow, on the feast of Christ the King 2019, the fertility goddesses are put on display at St. Peter’s, I believe that the very next line of the Gospel will be fulfilled:'So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.—Mt 24:15-16'"You can read the whole thing there: https://padreperegrino.org/2019/10/amazonsynod/
It's the re-dedication of England as the "Dowry of Mary" at Walsingham in 2020 by the English episcopacy. Our Lady of La Salette foretold that the restoration of the Church would begin in England. See the below link Mark:https://rcdow.org.uk/faith/re-dedication-of-england-as-the-dowry-of-mary---2020-/
To JMC. Thank you for your comment. England desperately needs Our Lady. The church attendance in England has fallen to about 10 per cent of the population attending mass on a weekly basis. So roll on next year and the Re-dedication of Our Lady at Walsingham. May England once again be the " Dowry of Mary".God bless.Anthony W
Hi Emmett,Congratulations on the podcast. It's very fitting to have an Irishman from the land of saints & scholars living just over an hour away as someone who is helping the while world come to terms with our situation.I bought the newest version of your book and it's quite an accomplishment in itself.To finish, could I ask how close we are to the begining of the Medjugorie secrets?Take care,Patrick
Sorry "whole world" I meant....
Thanks Patrick!I'm not too sure about Medjugorje. It's not something I have ever tried to factor into the equation. My rule of thumb while writing the book was to stick to private revelations which have been fully Church approved.
Couldn’t the Amazon Synod be viewed as a part of the Second Pentecost / Restoration of the Church since it’s offering “new ways” to spread the Gospel? What do you guys think?
Ha. Agree to disagree then. :)
Could I ask for a few opinions if no one minds as I really respect Emmett and his work and all the contributers on here. My question is not meant to offend anyone. Like my mother who has visited Lourdes from Ireland 9 times now, I am also a devotee of Our lady of Lourdes, but sometimes I do worry about deception and the warnings in the Bible. I am probably reading way too many blogs and frying my own head but when I think of 1 John 4:1-3'Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world'Am I correct in saying as Mediatrix, Our Lady mediates the grace of God to man and, since man receives everything from God through Mary (Encyclical Ubi primum, 1849), her role as Mediatrix is essential for our salvation? I read so many things stating what I have heard Protestants saying that Catholics must accept Christ as our only mediator, advocater and redeemer. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. I pray the Rosary daily and I am sure I suffer with the same fears alot of us do but does anybody else have fears about some Marian appirations and fears of being deceived?
Mark L -This seems to be a pretty good summary-https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/making-peace-with-the-mediatrix
Thanks Mark W! That was a very interesting read and certainly helped me understand a bit better, I've saved it to read again tomorrow 😊😊
Mark L: One other thing is on your side, and that's the fact that you pray the Rosary daily. A wise priest once told me, when in doubt, go to Our Lady. She will never lead you astray. Consider that one of her titles is "Exterminatrix of Heresies." She's got your six. ;D
There's actually some good news coming out of the Amazon synod. They did NOT put those Pachamama statues in the church for the closing Mass; instead, there was a particularly beautiful statue of Our Lady holding the baby Jesus...a statue which is not normally in that particular church. .There are actually one or two encouraging things about the synod, one of them being the fact that, for now at least, the radical changes are being restricted to the Amazon region. For an overview, there's an excellent article over at Crisis Magazine: https://www.crisismagazine.com/2019/what-will-francis-choose.God bless.
Hi Mark L. It is always wise to use discernment with all apparitions but I don't think there are any major apparitions of Our Lady that are false. I believe in Garabandal but that has not been recognised by the church. And on the subject of Medjugorje the church has accepted the first seven days of the apparitions as worthy of belief. God bless.Anthony
From what I've read about Garabandal, it can't be approved until and unless one of the prophecies comes to pass. As for Mejugorje, from everything I've read about it, things after the first seven days sound more like somebody's got a scam going on. I'm particularly leery about one incident, where to test her "ecstasy," they waved a lit match in front of her face, and she backed away from it. When they called her on it, she claimed she thought for a moment that Our Lady was going to drop the baby Jesus. I'm not buying it, simply because that sort of thing wouldn't happen in a heavenly apparition. It would be due to an imperfection, which does not exist in Heaven.
Medjugorje Message, July 17, 1986 “Dear children! Today I am calling you to reflect upon why I am with you this long. I am the Mediatrix between you and God. Therefore, dear children, I desire to call you to live always out of love all that which God desires of you. For that reason, dear children, in your own humility live all the messages which I am giving you. Thank you for having responded to my call. ”chris
march 18 2012“Dear children! I am coming among you because I desire to be your mother – your intercessor. I desire to be the bond between you and the Heavenly Father – your mediatrix. I desire to take you by the hand and to walk with you in the battle against the impure spirit. My children, consecrate yourselves to me completely. I will take your lives into my motherly hands and I will teach them peace and love, and then I will give them over to my Son. I am asking of you to pray and fast because only in this way will you know how to witness my Son in the right way through my motherly heart. Pray for your shepherds that, united in my Son, they can always joyfully proclaim the Word of God. Thank you.
Medjugorje Message, July 2, 2012 – Apparitions to Mirjana“My children; Again, in a motherly way, I implore you to stop for a moment and to reflect on yourselves and on the transience of this your earthly life. Then reflect on eternity and the eternal beatitude. What do you want? Which way do you want to set out on? The Father`s love sends me to be a mediatrix for you, to show you with motherly love the way which leads to the purity of soul; a soul unburdened by sin; a soul that will come to know eternity. I am praying that the light of the love of my Son may illuminate you, so that you may triumph over weaknesses and come out of misery. You are my children and I desire for all of you to be on the way of salvation. Therefore, my children, gather around me that I may have you come to know the love of my Son and thus open the door of eternal beatitude. Pray as I do for your shepherds. Again I caution you: do not judge them, because my Son chose them. Thank you. ”
Mediatrix of all graces is a title that Roman Catholics give to the Blessed Virgin Mary as the Mother of God; it includes the understanding that she mediates the Divine Grace. In a papal encyclical of Sept. 8, 1894 Pope Leo XIII states the following:“The recourse we have to Mary in prayer follows upon the office she continuously fills by the side of the throne of God as Mediatrix of Divine grace”— Pope Leo XIII, Iucunda Semper ExpectationeThe Second Vatican Council referred in its document Lumen gentium to Mary as “Advocate, Auxiliatrix, Adjutrix and Mediatrix”.
The 1986 message posted above by anonymous sounds genuine. She reminding us of her request that we consecrate ourselves to Her Immaculate Heart, and repeating her usual request that we pray and fast. I note that the later two messages, dated 2012, make absolutely no mention of prayer or fasting, or of the consecration, but are otherwise almost a repetition of the first message. I don't see Our Lady coming back and repeating herself over and over again for thirty-eight years..On the other hand, I just read something about one of the prophecies made at Garbandal, which was precisely that the enemies of the Church, having realized that they could not destroy her from the outside, would attempt to destroy her from within. So I imagine that we're not going to see approval of Garabandal until after the Restoration, because that would be admitting that all the so-called "conspiracy theorists" are right...and in the process, the infiltrators would be exposing themselves.
revisiting Garabandalhttps://lesfemmes-thetruth.blogspot.com/2019/10/is-garabandal-our-final-warning-marys.htmlThe apparitions at Garabandal are less well know than Lourdes or Fatima but they strike a personal chord with me since the seers, three of whom are still alive, are my contemporaries born in the late 1940s as I was. Our Lady, like she did at Fatima, called for repentance and penance. The messages focused on respect for the Eucharist and warned that many would fail to believe. Mary told the children a very great chastisement would come upon all humanity if people did not change their ways. It was the same message she gave at Fatima and would give a few years later at Akita exhorting her children to repent and do penance.The apparitions were never affirmed by the local bishop and his successor. They said they could not confirm that anything supernatural took place. But it's not true that the apparitions were condemned either. The commission acknowledged that the messages contained nothing contrary to faith and morals.Did the Blessed Mother appear there? Padre Pio thought so. He believed the messages were authentic and described his own confirmation from Our Lady. He sent the girls a letter in 1962 giving them a special message from Mary to pray the "Fatima Rosary" substituting the normal mysteries with these: 1) In this first mystery we see how the Holy Virgin chose Fatima as her favorite city to spread her messages. 2) In this second mystery it is contemplated how the Holy Virgin chose the Cova de Iria for her visions. 3) In this third mystery we see how the Holy Virgin chose the three little shepherds for their celestial conversations and to entrust the great secret to them. 4) In this fourth mystery we see how the secret of Fatima is the greatest secret of all that she has said. 5) In this fifth mystery we can see how the visions of the Blessed Virgin continue to be present in all parts of the world.In light of all the Blessed Mother's warnings to us, have we heeded her? Are we changing our lives?Is the world now holier and more devout than in 1961?Is the Church holier and her leaders more devout than in 1961?Mary said at Garabandal that there would be a "final warning" before the great chastisement. Everyone in the world would experience it and a miracle would be visible to everyone and a permane....chris
It appears that most of the misinformation on Garabandal that is currently being propagated on this thread can be traced to certain 1998 article, “Garabandal Ruling Final” by Thomas Rutkoski which was posted in a section titled “Convincing Evidence on Garabandal” on the website jloughnan.tripod.com ( a website that while having some good information, also has links to questionable sites like www.unitypublishing.com). Thomas Rutkoski makes the mistake of posting an incorrect translation (from Gospa Missions) of the Bishop’s letter and then Rutkoski incorrectly reaches the conclusion that the matter of Garabandal is closed. He also makes an interesting “note” in this same article saying:“Editor’s note: Luis Vega Perez writes the opening statement below because I submitted to the bishop about twenty questions about Garabandal. We believe the diocese is reluctant to become too deeply involved in additional responses because they dislike the attention of being paid to a subject they consider closed.”So, the first mistake Rutkoski makes is to inject an incorrect translation into his article. The letter Rutkoski mistranslates is the same November 1996 letter from Bishop Vilaplana, “postmarked October 11, 1996” that appeared in a periodical called Gospa Missions. Since then, it has been widely circulated causing confusion because the English translation of the original Spanish is inaccurate in key areas. This letter has now appeared on the Internet and in The National Catholic Register and was reprinted in SOUL Magazine in its March-April 1997 issue. The letter is not new. Ramon Perez, the author of Garabandal - the Village Speaks, received the original in Spanish dated 8 June l993 from Bishop Vilaplana. (Where therefore did the the above-mentioned date of October llth l996 come from? Was it deliberately updated?)It is obvious to those who understand the Spanish language that there have been serious discrepancies in the translation. We mention only one as follows:Gospa translation: All the bishops of the diocese since l96l through l970 agreed that there was no supernatural validity for the apparitions (last part of the sentence omitted).Correct translation: All the bishops of the diocese since 1961 through 1970 affirmed that the supernatural character of said apparitions was not certain for those succeeding years.Furthermore, the entire Gospa translation conveys a harsh tone that is not characteristic of the Spanish original. Whoever made that translation is obviously hostile toward Garabandal. Soul Magazine has made the correction in their May-June 1997 issue in accordance with the accurate translation outlined above.chris
mark if I am correct, the article states Mary granted permission for pilgrims to touch HER, but as they did Her veil become blackened and therefore She removed Herself because the sin was the culprit and cause of the darkness.chris
@chris if Our Lady granted permission for pilgrims to touch her would they not need to see her to be able to do that? And of pilgrims at Medjugorje were able to touch her would this not be one of the most amazing and widely reported Marian events ever? I will have to read up more on this, I'm only asking because I've never heard of anyone being able to touch Our Lady or her veil - Mark L
I'm with you on this one, Mark. In fact, to my knowledge, in any Marian apparition ONLY her chosen messengers were able to see her, no matter how many people were present. And at Fatima, though Francisco was able to see Our Lady, he never heard her voice; Lucia and Jacinta had to tell him what she said. Like you, I have certainly never heard of one where even her chosen messengers were able to touch her, much less anybody else.
mark just reading now. i will get an appropriate story and post.
Our Lady choose to come . Vicka did the process of dialogue and returned to me with the answer “Here the people pray and the faith is strong”“…good…” I thought to myself”“I then asked Vicka to ask the apparition if I could touch her, I didn’t think the question through before Vicka went ahead and turned back and said “Gospa said: yes you may”“There was no turning back. I had asked it now and realising that it could happen I came to the point of no return and had to go ahead. I reminded myself I was here on behalf of the Clinic.”“I asked Vicka how can I if I cant see her and Vicka pointed out where to put my hand”“I reached out my hand to where Vicka showed me…To this day I cannot describe what I felt in that moment. I reached out my hand and could sense that what ever was there was leaving. I looked at the visionaries and saw their faces had changed from an ecstatic joy to sad and concerned”“I asked the visionaries “She has gone hasn’t She?” And Vicka said “yes She’s gone”. I then said if Gospa said anything and Vicka told me that Our Lady said “There will always be doubting Judases”I could not believe these words were attributed to me, so strong, that it confronted me. I realised that here I was trying to prove the visionaries as false as if I had the truth, when infact they were the ones that had the truth and I was false, I was that false Judas who wanted to betray these visionaries and make them appear falsehttps://www.patheos.com/blogs/mysticpost/2017/07/24/atheist-doctor-asked-expose-medjugorje-visionaries-now-says-believe-experiencing-times-medjugorje-important-event-history-mankind/there is a better oneee i will post when i findchris
have not located it as yet will post when i dothe jist is that Mary granted a few pilgrims wish to touch Her, but left rather quickly as the touching was turning Her robe black SHe explained, or the seers , that it is theeffect of our sins.. i will find and post chris
"Did the Blessed Mother appear there? Padre Pio thought so. He believed the messages were authentic and described his own confirmation from Our Lady. He sent the girls a letter in 1962 giving them a special message from Mary to pray the "Fatima Rosary" There is absolutely no evidence that this actually happened. I personally contacted everyplace I could think of, that had any long term connection with Padre Pio - the monastery, hospital, and archives - and no one has any proof that this letter existed.I contacted Conchita through an intermediary, specifically to ask about this letter from Padre Pio. (No, I never received a response from Conchita directly.) The intermediary asked Conchita about it on my behalf. The response I got was something along the lines of, "She doesn't know where the letter is now. She thinks perhaps her mother still has it." If you had received a letter from Padre Pio, would you lose track of it?After having done the actual research as far as possible without getting on a plane and digging through archival material myself, I do not believe that this letter actually existed. There is no historical documentation that Padre Pio ever wrote to anyone connected with Garabandal. Mark W
"It appears that most of the misinformation on Garabandal that is currently being propagated on this thread..."I've actually done the research, Chris. And by research, I mean more than just looking stuff up on Google. I've contacted the archives, I've contacted the parties directly. I'm not sure what I say counts an misinformation. If you think I'm wrong, prove it.
So, now we're being given Pachamama prayers?https://wdtprs.com/2019/10/for-your-you-cant-make-this-up-file-italian-bishops-publish-pachamama-prayer-in-booklet/At what point do we stop looking at this as the Amazonian Synod, and start looking at it as the Amazonian Crisis?
And relative to the Padre Pio letter...There's also a copy of the letter floating around the internet. I looked into that too. I've also studied (been forced to study) paleogrphy as well, and that gets into handwriting comparison. The letter that you see on the internet does not match known writing samples of Padre Pio's handwriting from the archives of his documents.
@Mark W thanks for looking into the alleged 'Padre Pio letter'. I didn't think that was true either as again it would be well documented by now would it not? I've spoken to a few people who have always followed Padre Pios life and they never heard of it either. There must be so many lies made up about Marian Visions and there are ridiculous stories of things that are meant to have happened that are so obvious. I really don't know why people blindly believe these clearly outrageous claims - Mark L
I just checked that out. At the bottom was a reminder that Evo Morales had gifted Pope Francis with a hammer-and-sickle crucifix, accompanied by a picture. The thing sent chills down my spine, because it is just so symbolic of the anti-Christian nature of Communism.
Sr. Emmanuel has written about this apparition in her book “Medjugorje the 90‘s”... this is the source for the touching of Mary.IT CAN be downloaded . just google the title. chris
Mark W "It appears that most of the misinformation on Garabandal that is currently being propagated on this thread..." My apology.. this was addressed to a different site and not meant as an aspersion towards you in any way. It was not directed towards you in any manner. please excuse my lack of writing talent and experience.Chris
woah Mark WJust reread the posts. You completely misunderstood that this response was towards you. That never entered my mind. please let it register that you were Never a thought in my response.Chris
Sr. Emmanuel has written about this apparition in her book “Medjugorje the 90‘s”...this is the source for the touching of Mary.IT CAN be downloaded . just google the title.chris
No sweat, Chris. My apologies for misunderstanding. All is well.
Emmett - the abomination of desolation has been on a lot of people's minds in the past couple of days...https://insidethevatican.com/news/newsflash/letter-59-2019-in-plain-sight/https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/italian-bishops-mission-org-publishes-prayer-to-pachamama-in-official-booklet...so is there any chance that this could be the abomination itself?According to the Lifesite report, they used to sacrifice children to Pachamama. And now this bowl on the altar of St. Peter's that can be a ritualistic stand-in for the statue... I've seen several people make the connection to the abomination.
mark lSr. Emmanuel has written about this apparition in her book “Medjugorje the 90‘s”...this is the source for the touching of Mary.IT CAN be downloaded . just google the title.Fr. Leon and Fr. Maxamillian, in charge of English pilgrims and Italian pilgrims, have both spoken about this experiencen Marija had with Our Lady... Maria (the visionary) has often spoken about this many timeschris
Thanks Chris, I'll have a look at the book - Mark L
I think the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of the abomination of desolation is related to the visions of Blessed Elena Aiello, wherein she saw a Russian flagstaff flying over the dome of St. Peter's Basilica. The Pachamama thing is certainly disturbing though.
Emmett, I've done a ton of research on this. There's a link between the St. Gallen group - the one that met in Switzerland - and the Soviets. I haven't got all the details yet, and I don't have the name of a middle link, but it's well established that the Soviets were linked to that place, and that that place gave St. Gallen's mafia its name. There are also other links between members of the original St. Gallen's group and the KGB; none direct, but they're there. And I've also come to suspect that the Stasburg Meeting depicted in Windswept House by Malachi Martin, was indeed the original meeting in St. Gallen's, Switzerland. If you take Blessed Elena Aiello's vision literally, you may have to wait quite a long time before the Russian tricolor turns back into the Soviet flag. But if you take it more figuratively, it's been staring us all in the face for quite some time.
Chances are, however, that most people have something that needs to be confessed. Once the visionaries told about a time when Our Lady said that the people who were with them were allowed to touch Her, even though they could not see Her. Before long, Our Lady's gown became blackened, and She explained that the darkening of Her gown had been caused by the sins that had accumulated on the souls of the people touching Her, and She recommended that they go to Confession. http://www.spiritofmedjugorje.org/index.php?ArticleSeq=96CHRIS
mark why do you seemingly not believe that the abomination cannot happen without this personJohn5:43: 'I have come in the name of my Father, and ye do not receive me; if another may come in his own name, him ye will receive; and it appears he has not enterd the arena as yet.chris
mark you might add these two as sources re the vatican earth worshiphttp://4christum.blogspot.com/ Take St. Gregory the Great, for example, who reigned as Pope from 590 to 604 A.D. He is famous for sending the missionary St. Augustine of Canterbury to evangelize the then-pagan Anglo-Saxons in England. In a letter to Abbot Melitus recorded by St. Bede in his Ecclesiastical History of the English People, St. Gregory issued the following instructions: Tell [Bishop Augustine] that I have decided after long deliberation about the English people, namely that the idol temples of that race should not be destroyed, but only the idols in them. Let blessed water be prepared, and sprinkled in these temples, and altars constructed, and relics deposited. For if these temples are well built, it is essential that they should be transferred from the worship of devils to the service of the true God.St. Augustine of Canterbury did as he was told, destroying the pagan idols the temples contained while converting the temples themselves into Christian churches. Destroying an idol reveals to everyone — in a way that nothing else does — the utter powerlessness of demons in the presence of Christ.Many of the churches in Rome occupy the sites, or even the actual structures, of pagan temples, Including the church from which the Pachamama idols were removed and tossed into the Tiber. That church, Santa Maria in Traspontina, was built on the ruins of the Meta Romuli, an ancient Roman pyramid believed to be Romulus’s tomb, where the citizens of pre-Christian Rome went to worship the deified founder of their city.andhttps://www.gloria.tv/reply/XiUdUqFT7saF44DHe9CE4GT3QVatican News share the pantheistic anthem ´Ancestral Pan-Amazon´ that worships the indigenous god Tupã.chris
and finally thishttps://www.fli.org.au/pachamama-and-child-sacrifice/Pachamama and Child SacrificeWritten by Kathy ClubbFaithful Catholics who had been scandalised by the presence of pagan idols during the Amazon Synod received another blow when Pope Francis apologised for their removal from the Church at Traspontina. However, only a little research reveals that the images which featured prominently during the Synod are traditionally associated with child sacrifice. Archaeologists have been documenting a ritual known as the Capacocha ceremony, in which children were killed to appease the Earth-Mother, Pachamama, for decades. And to make matters worse, the disturbing first-fruits of the Holy Father’s open support for paganism are becoming evident: it became known today that Italian Bishops are promulgating prayers to Pachamama.The Capacocha RitualOne well-documented case of the Capacocha ceremony was discovered in 1999 by archaeologists at the summit of the Llullaillaco volcano in Argentina. The bodies of a seven-year-old boy, a six-year-old girl and a 15-year-old, known as ‘the Maiden’ had been perfectly preserved due to a unique combination of naturally-occurring phenomena. Various experts have used the children’s bodies to study aspects of biology and anthropology; they unanimously identified Pachamama as the intended recipient of the Capacocha sacrifice.”A different article describes how boys being sacrificed were given maize beer or chicha, then strangled or hit on the head before burial. It also quotes an account from 1621 which explains how coca leaves were stuffed into children’s mouths to simultaneously drug and suffocate them. Coca leaves were found by the archaeologists inside the Maiden’s cheek, providing further evidence that the children were sacrificed.The Apochates Ritual
IMHO:Medjugorje: clearly a demonic hoax driven by the love of money. I don't care how many people "feel good" going there or have "conversion experiences."Garabandal: a much harder nut to crack than Medjugorje, but I think it has a demonic origin as well. No way do I see Our Lady leaving the faithful hanging for decades wondering whether the apparition was genuine and waiting for supernatural confirmation. That's just not how Our Lady operates during genuine apparitions. In genuine apparitions, she come with a message and request and confirms those requests by supernatural signs or miracles given to the local bishop. She is short, sweet and to the point. She doesn't leave us hanging for decades.
Chris,"why do you seemingly not believe that the abomination cannot happen without this person"First off, it's a line of supposition at this point really. Not much more.Second, I'm also not assuming anything on the timelines. If we accept that the events of the Book of Revelation are not bound by the specific sequence of events therein, who's to say that the events in general are more flexible in the order they occur? Third, if you look at the quotes about the Russian flag, and don't take them literally as a physical flag flying over the dome of St Peter's, then you get a different view of things. As I said, I've done a great deal of research on this particular subject, and there does seem to be a connection. If you take if figuratively, there's a case to be made for a communist connection that's not so obvious.And I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at with the post from 1 November 2019 at 06:11. Is that directed at me, or MarkL?
mark w thank you for your abomination answer. regarding thePachamama info 6:11 post, i had seen one of the Mark's post about it and I ran across a posting addressing the issue and posted it. if it has no value or adds nothing to understanding just ignore please.Chris
lastly After reading a few of the recent posts, I have noticed vitriol towards Medjugorje. I am not an apologetic for this alleged apparition, but realise more disbelief towards it than Nostradamus. it seems a certain Donel Foley has led the troops of disapproval. there is an excellent rebuttal to this information by a Denis Nolan, who seemingly was one of the original visitors to the site. he, Nolan and his wife, provide a constant source of information through personal friendship with the seers. A web site, Mary T.V. provides every little tidbit available as well as a daily rosary and mass video from medjugorje. the main info however is a rebuttal of negative information provided by Foley in a book about the early times.IT SEEMS THIS BOOK AND GENTLEMEN IS THE SOURCE OF MANY DISBELIEVERS DOUBTS. on the site explore the sections , in particular Denis SAYS , any you will get a well informed opposition.THis does not mean you will become a believer, but you willrethink sevral of your arguments.https://marytv.tv/https://marytv.tv/english-mass-in-medjugorje-16-2-2/Daily Rosary (Live Daily)4:00 PM Medj / 5:00 PM Summer Sunday*Hour of Mercy (Live Daily)3:00 PM MedjA Moment with MaryNew Episode each week dayFruit of Medjugorje:New Episode every MondayTea with Rosie (News)New Episode each weekParish Evening Rosary (Live Daily)5:00 PM Medj Winter / 6:00 PM Summer*International Mass (Live Daily)6:00 PM Medj Time / 7:00 PM Summer*Parish Apparition Hill Rosary (Live Sunday)2:00 PM Medj / 4:00 PM Summer*Mirjana’s Apparition2nd of Every Month8:00 AM Medj timePosted as soon as possible that day.Check Website for Special EventsStreamed livechris
On October 10, 2007 Cardinal Arinze thanked me for my book, “Medjugorje and the Church”. “May God bless you for the great diligence put into producing this well-documented work which I shall read with great interest.” For 25 years, readers of Catholic print media in the US have been bombarded with dishonest reporting on Medjugorje. I suggest their readers take a look at my book (which carries a Nihil Obstat) to consider the other side. (Medjugorje and the Church Queenship Publishing)On October 10, 2007 Cardinal Arinze thanked me for my book, “Medjugorje and the Church”. “May God bless you for the great diligence put into producing this well-documented work which I shall read with great interest.” For 25 years, readers of Catholic print media in the US have been bombarded with dishonest reporting on Medjugorje. I suggest their readers take a look at my book (which carries a Nihil Obstat) to consider the other side. (Medjugorje and the Church, Queenship Publishing) Denis NolanMaryTV.tvchrisDenis NolanMaryTV.tv
Medjugorge is unique in the history of apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary in many respects. For instance, no apparition has attracted as many pilgrims - over 40 million - in so short a period of time. No apparition other than Guadalupe has caused conversions on such a scale within so compressed a time frame. No apparition has attracted as many religious, tens of thousands of priests and hundreds of cardinals and bishops, while the phenomenon is still in progress. This book examines who is saying what about the extraordinary events in Medjugorje. Direct quotations from Bishops, Cardinals, and others are compiled to present a clear overview of extraordinary events that have occurred and are occurring in Medjugorje. Denis Nolan has compiled this book to examine and document the many events and history surrounding Medjugorje, as well as to document and examine the Catholic Church s official stand on this supernatural event. Author: Denis NolanFormat: PaperbackPublisher: Queenship Publishing CompanyISBN: 1-57918-330-1
https://www.medjugorje.ws/en/articles/medjugorje-real/Is Medjugorje Real?Facts and First-hand AccountsDate: July 2, 2008Author: Mark MiravalleCategory: Medjugorje in the Catholic ChurchContent of the article Introduction Church’s Official Position? Disobedience? Just Too Long? False Ecumenical Teachings? False Visionaries? Is Medjugorje Real?IntroductionMedjugorje Real ^The reported apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Bosnia-Herzegovina (former Yugoslavia) have attracted the attention of the world and approximately 30 million pilgrims. Since June 24, 1981, six children began to report daily visi....................chris
Chris, if you believe in Medjugorje that's all that matters 😊 we might all disagree on various things but at the end of the day we all love the same God 😊 every one has an opinion about something, it's ok to disagree 😊
hi Mark well said and I agree. my point was when posters offer their points regarding Medjugorje, the points are dated, incorrect, etc. I wanted to allow them access to current established ideas. I agree however, we can not all agree on an idea and that fact is acceptable.Chris
Mark in response to your Oct 30th post here is the official message for that day with contextJune 27, 1981"Praise be Jesus"Jakov wanted to know what the Virgin expected of the Franciscans in Medjugorje. "Have them persevere in the faith and protect the faith of the people."Mirjana and Jakov were concerned because the people were treating them like liars. They asked Our Lady to leave a sign for the people. "My angels, do not be afraid of injustices. They have always existed."The visionaries asked: "How must we pray?" "Continue to recite the Lord's Prayer, the Hail Mary, and the Glory Be seven times, but also add the Creed. Good-bye, my angels. Go in the peace of God."Our Lady said to Ivan: "Be in peace and take courage."chris
june 25th 1981 message with contextThis is the first day the six visionaries saw Our Lady or the Gospa on the hill: mark do you have the source for this report pleaseDaily Messages 25.06.1981. - June 25, 1981This is the first day the six visionaries saw Our Lady or the Gospa on the hill: "Praise be Jesus!"Ivanka asked about her mother who had died two months earlier."She is happy. She is with me" (other version: "She is your angel in Heaven").The visionaries asked if Our Lady would return the next day. Our Lady responded with a nod of the head. Mirjana asked if Our Lady would give them a sign so that others would believe them. Mirjana believed she had received a sign when the Gospa smiled. Also, Mirjana noticed that her watch had changed time during the apparition."Good-bye my angels. Go in the peace of God."06/25/1981chris
Mirjana asked if Our Lady would give them a sign so that others would believe them.
LAST ONE mark wrote This doesn't mean for one moment that you still can't go and visit the likes of Lourdes and Fatima and have a deeply religious Marian experience. You can visit those places in devotion, love, faith, and humility and focus on the apparitions, focus on Our Lady's reason for appearing there and focus on the humility of the seers I write this as a friendly addition to others who are reading this web site it is obvious that Mark has not visited Medjugorje. these things are there in abundancehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os-5O_MLYx8JOHN WAYNES grandson believeschris
After reading through the comments I wanted to chime in on a few things:1. I am not sure whether some grasp what private revelation is as it relates to our faith practice and personal development. We have received the full deposit of faith insofar as what is required to adhere to so to adequate profess ourselves as Christians all from oral tradition and the Church Fathers. Even if a private revelation (ie apparition, vision, locution, etc) is deemed worthy of belief no person is required to adhere to what is communicated as part of the private revelation. The danger I have seen, especially in the case of Medjugore, is that people become so fanatical about the surrounding devotion that it effectively replaces the actual true faith. I have seen so many people point to what they would like to consider as "good fruit" from Medjugore but just as it went in the garden an perceived good thing can be used by satan to bring about evil and personal destruction. It seems to me that many people WANT to believe in many private revelations and are willing to dedicate far more time and energy to something that frankly is not even necessary for their salvation rather than the general study of the Church Fathers which they NEED.2. The Pachamama controversy has been a hot topic of conversation recently in my community and I would like to come out and profess that I believe it to be EVIL, period. A very good point that a Ruthenian priest friend made to me as his greatest concern has to do with the concern for the salvation of the Amazonian people. It appears that Francis has engaged in the promotion of syncretism in a misguided effort to placate these people. Jesus Christ said to teach the Gospel to the ends of the earth so to help humankind work out their salvation. I have always sought to give Francis the benefit of the doubt as I think many misunderstand him, perhaps deliberately in some cases, but this stinks of satan. The abomination of sacrilege, that is all I can think of when I see what has transpired. Please pray for the salvation of Francis and the Amazonian people, tgat cause will never advance via pagan idolotry.For what it is worth I have been very happy to be part of an Orthodox Church in Communion with Rome. I think people need to come to an understanding of the fact that the Bishop of Rome is an ecclesial patriarch and what that has meant throughout the history of the Church, particularly in the first millennium.
My final last comment on Medjugorje! @chris your right, I have never been to Medjugorje and I never will go as its not important to my own personal faith in Jesus. The fact that you've stated John Waynes grandson believes in Medjugorje has now confirmed to many on here Chris what we already thought to be true! Thank you @Kevin for your first point which I fully agree with 100%! Mark L
oh boy i am a poor communicator! mark my post was not a slight towards you!! I meant it as a response to your using Fatima, Lourdes as places which still possess the Marian fumes, the power of belief living still at the place.Please, I have never and never will post anything downgrading another poster. please believe that statement. my Medjugoeje posts were meant as positive posts for anyone thinking about the place.I thought the John Wayne grandson article as clickbait materiel.However, I realize we can all not accept it. THATS OK I don't know what all you or many think about me! Do you think I ride around on a horse calling people pilgrim?? I am the most anti war, anti-politics anti one world person I know. and proudly might I say. all these based on catholic principles.AND Kevin and Mark as well. kevin you might solve a question for me I have pondered. I agree with you statement about private revelation. if your statement rings true and it does ,,,WHY HAS the Almighty Father permitted, nay, SENT, Jesus's mother to the earth to comment and try is the deposit of faith notto lead mankind through future disasters. IS THE DEPOSIT OF FAITH NOT SUFFICIENT?? DO YOU THINK FATIMA, LA SALETTE NONSENSICAL SIDESHOWS?? WAS THEIR MESSAGE'S TRADITION CARBON COPY? IF TRUE, OUR LADY HAS BEEN LEAVING HINTS OF OUR ERRORS FOR 30 PLUS YEARS!! ARE WE TO THINK THIS AN UNWORTHY SPECTACLE??I think the Bible says the first will come last and the last first is a reflection on the difficulty that time gone by has diluted the present and future christian life and the idea just might be that Mary has been allowed to help us.chris
And evidently, you did not watch the John Wayn piece as it is a story about his grandson becoming a priest. and I never thought of being view so negatively! I will leave the blog to all you people of high society and pure genetic lines. this is no place for someone as me.
Chris, I've supported you through thick-and-thin. You post some oddities, that's quite true, but you also find gems that others miss. The gems are far more valuable than any angst received from the less useful posts. But honestly..."I will leave the blog to all you people of high society and pure genetic lines."Did you really mean to say this?And to everyone - I once had an internet genius explain to me that my salvation was dependent upon my acceptance of Garabandal. The forum I was on was a collection of such folks, and several chimed in that it was true, no heaven for me if I didn't believe in Garabandal. That's the danger in all this. We can't let your interest in private revelation become so ferocious that we risk our own salvation by placing it - Garabandal, Medjugorie, or even Fatima or LaSalette - above the deposit of faith of the Church and the words in Scripture. This stuff is fascinating, but it binds none of us. I'm free to mostly accept Akita and Emmett is free to mostly doubt it. But neither of us is going to challenge the other to a duel (well, I suppose I'm speaking for Emmett here, but I don't think he's the dueling type).Just a gentle reminder.And Chris, I hope you don't leave. You've posted some things here that I've found quite valuable over the years. And sure, you've posted some stuff that's a bit less than useful, but sometimes you have to sift through a bit of silt to get to the gems.Pax vobiscum
Mark, I'm not sure that the "Anonymous" who is posting about Medjugorje is the same Chris as the one who has posted links to some other articles. The style of writing is entirely different, so I don't think it's the same person.
Chris my statement on private revelation was a warning to not become so fixated with any so much so that it distracts you from the actual development of our faith that we are dependent upon. As far as specific private revelations such as Marian apparitions one message rings true with all of them, the call for repentance and metanoia. Emmett's recent video in this blog post speaks to that implicitly. As has been stated in the Gospels, it is not for us to know the specific time and date for any future occurrence. That being said I think it a worthwhile endeavor to work to better understand scripture, historical patterns and occurrences that tie into scripture, and the connections to where we are at in our current times. It is incredibly complex subject matter and in fact I believe it better for most who are not into scholarship to instead reflect on how they are making sure that they are solid in the understanding of the history of our faith prior to seeking to engage in an understanding of things like eschatology. We must learn to walk in faith before we can run the race in eschatology.I have a background in studying history and using analytical methods along these lines for the US Military for their purposes. For me to switch gears and use the skills I have developed and apply them to faith based study is how I first came across people like Emmett, Dr. E Michael Jones, etc who engage in similar, more intricate practices. Even if you are not into scholarship so much of this can help you make connections in your life and help you think outside of the box, but I daresay that ANYONE who has not developed a solidly grounded basis in faith will likely find their minds diverted into spiritually unhealthy distractions.Here is an example to contemplate, the Pachamama controversy seems to be a golden calf in light of revelations such as that of Our Lady of Guadalupe. I had thought of that immediately and afterwards found and nice article online where the author was detailing how Guadalupe and Saint Rose of Lima had no place at the Amazonian Synod despite their incredible historical significance in Latin America. Instead we get a pagan idol infamously associated with the living sacrifice of human beings. This might as well be an air raid siren from Heaven telling us that this is a time of opportunity to get ourselves into repentance and metanoia that the Theotokos has been telling us through her apparitions to do for centuries. This is not a time to be apathetic nor distracted.
To Chris, Don't leave the blog you have come up with a lot of interesting things. Also, I am with you on Medjugorje. Our Lady is appearing at Medjugorje. The problem is especially in America and Canada, that there has been a systematic campaign to discredit Medjugoje from the beginning. Why this is, is hard to fathom. I think it is related to this extreme Conservative sub culture that exists in the Roman Catholic church, that is more Conservative then Catholic. I was brought up to be a Roman Catholic not a liberal Catholic or a conservative Catholic. And unfortunately this same group of people who attack Medjugorje are also attacking Our Pope at every opportunity. The Pope cannot be a heretic nor can he teach heresy. The people who attack Pope Francis don't even respect nor understand the Roman Catholicfaith. God blessAnthony W
Anthony W when you say, "The Pope cannot be a heretic nor can he teach heresy" are you aware of the fact that there is no shortage of bad popes throughout the history of the Church that have openly used their office to promote heresy?The Pachamama controversy and Francis's related actions are ex-Cathedra and thus not covered under papal infallibility. There is a strong historical precedent within the Church towards the condemnation of syncretism which the Pachamama controversy has shown clear evidence of. The Bishop of Rome is a human being just like the rest of us and easily capable of error and even heresy just like the rest of us. Our allegiance is to Jesus Christ, not the vicar of His Church on earth.
There is a very limited set of circumstances under which the charism of infallibility comes into play. The last time that happened officially was when the Pope defined the dogma of the Immaculate Conception. In my own personal opinion, I think Pope St. John Paul II may have also met those criteria in the 1990s when he defined and declared (his own words) that the Pope does not have the authority to allow the ordination of women..Kevin, I'm in full agreement with you. There's no question that Pope Francis is indeed a validly elected and installed Pope, but, until and unless those aforementioned criteria are met, anything he says is only his own opinion, with we are as free to disagree with as anyone else's, as Pope Benedict XVI made sure to point out multiple times during his pontificate.
Anthony W - Read up on Sixtus V. He retranslated the Bible into Latin. His translation was full of errors in translation. But he declared himself above all the other translators working on the project. In the preface, he wrote, "By the fullness of apostolic power we decree and declare that this edition, approved by the authority delivered to us by the Lord, is to be received and held as true, lawful, authentic, and unquestioned, in all public and private discussion, reading, preaching, and explanations.” This is a papal command, dealing with a matter of faith, that would bind the faithful to accept a copy of Sacred Scripture that was in error. He wrote the papal bull to express this infallible teaching to the faithful. The night before it was to be released, he died, and as a result, the proclamation was never read.So, first off, this is an example of the Holy Spirit's protection (perhaps the single biggest example in history).Secondly, it shows an example of what an infallible declaration looks like. So far, I don't think Frances has issued a statement at this level.
Well i am finished riding the horse and watching John Wayne movies pigrims. Please excuse my swollen ego and lack of accepting all posts. If you can accept my indulgent posts , i should be as noble.sorryChrisNow to keep you updated we have new posts regarding Akita as well as from Christin Gallegher.In a message to Christina on October 12, 2019, as she returned from New York. Jesus said,"California's flames will rise high upon all those filled with their own pomp and false security. So many in their pride adore the world and its fruits - all that is not of Me but these are wasting away. These fires are little - there will be many more until they open their hearts to recognise My Hand crushing evil. Tell the people of California that they must honour Me their God."Jesus then showed Christina a volcano erupting on a large mountain where none has erupted before. (He did not say in which country.) She could see the lava on fire flowing down on top of the people. The people had their hands up in fear and pleading. They were not prepared for this any more than the people of Indonesia at the time the massive tsunami struck them in 2004. Jesus then said,"I am the Lord your God. This is My Hand. Can people not understand that this is My Hand to crush the deepest evil. I have to crush it. Why can't mankind live humbly and simply by obeying My Law. The destruction they perform is put in their hearts by the dark designs of the evil one." AKITAhttp://wqphradio.org/2019/10/27/a-new-message-from-sister-agnes-of-our-lady-of-akita/The courier noted that Japan was recently hit with the devastating Typhoon Hagibis on October 13th which was the anniversary date of the final message of Our Lady of Akita (October 13th, 1973). This date also coincides with the Our Lady of Fatima’s Miracle of the Sun on October 13 1917chris
I never heard of the images appearing in the marble of that fireplace in Divis Mark L. During the 80s most talk of local supernatural events was focused on the moving statues of Mount Melleray, Ballinspittle, etc.
Thanks, Chris. If I've heard of Christina Gallagher before, I seem to have forgotten her.Anyone know if this is even remotely reliable?
The new message from Akita is interesting. A bit disturbing that it came at 3:30 in the morning. But otherwise the timing is interesting.The message allegedly came on October 6th. The pachamama incident in the Vatican gardens was on the 4th. With the time zones between Rome and Japan, it could be that this happened within 24 hours of the pachamama incident. And it's the day before the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary.And I've seen several people mention Nineveh in conjunction with the comment about wearing ashes. That reading from the Book of Jonah was on the 8th of October. The updated - and more accurate - translation seems to have been released on November 2nd, which just happens to be 40 days before the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe.(As to the odd nature of the original translation - I put the original Japanese into Google Translate. I got the exact copy that we're seeing online now, with the "pray for a repentant rosary." I think this is just Google doing a poor translation.)40 days from October 6th would be November 15th - the Feast of Albert the Great (both old and new calendars). I'm not aware of any connection here.40 days from the pachamama incident would be November 13th - All Saints of the Benedictine Order, and the Feast of St. Francis Xavier Cabrini. Again, not aware of a connection here.Anyone see any patterns here?
I think that Christina Gallagher page had something about a volcano where one had not been known before. So I'll nominate:https://temblor.net/earthquake-insights/the-ridgecrest-earthquakes-torn-ground-nested-foreshocks-aftershocks-near-the-garlock-and-temblors-forecast-9102/
That was a very interesting article. Between this and Christina Gallagher's prediction, it made me think of the Mexico volcano that erupted in the middle of a farmer's field back in the mid-20th century: Absolutely no history of volcanic activity in the area...and then there is.
This seems to be a pretty good take-down of Christina Gallagher:http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false02.htm#source
Kevin Miller et alIs anyone aware at any time of past bad popes what rebellions may have occurred by the laity? In other words, this can't be the first time of disagreements with popes have happened and the reaction of the faithful.
Anon I would have to do more research in terms of historical accounts of laity protesting a Pope. I was discussing Gregory XII this morning with one of my monastic brethren and I would say that the majority in the clerical hierarchy in his time were at serious odds with him. So much so that he resigned and repented prior to the end of his life.There has been much speculation behind why Benedict XVI retired and I am in the camp that thinks that he was stagnated from effectively addressing the corruption in the hierarchy that has been brought to public light over the past two years or so.
Anon at 18:28,Sorry, but I'm not sure I see your point.
Mark WThere have been several write ups like you posted with rebuttals priests standing up for Christine. claims of money theft etc.. I think anytime there is a person claiming messages such as she, there will be a negative view and disbelief.I think it certainly seems dubious.However, she preicted the Asian tsunami, and other.. She has a website tht you can review.Recently she has some bold predictions regarding New York..The one that had peaked my interest is several years ago and before I could find the idea anywhere else, she predicts a breaking/spliting off of the African continent. thats about as bold or silly as cab be correct?? well years later reports as this started appearing.https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/nation-world/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do-africa-could-eventually-split-into-two-continents/507-535244260Her warning which she stated she would not repeat since it will be so cataclysmic is the oceqans will innundate the land around the world and obvious chaos. It is Emmetts water inundation but from another source.How can anyone prove this?What could you do if true?tHIS is the region where Kevin is correct.http://www.christinagallagher.org/en/chris
correct in the sense that you need not believe and it is probably a venue which does not provide low hanging fruit.chris
Mark LSir I have no firsthand knowledge regarding this Lady either way.http://www.voiceofourladyspilgrims.org/nameless.htmland a negative onehttps://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=60848I would say if you have ANY doubt AVOIDChris
As far as laity rebelling against a historical bad pope...not that I know of. I'm no historian, and I don't have access to the kind of resources that someone like Mark W does, but as far as I know, the last time we had a seriously bad pope, the laity were completely unaware of it, because of the poor communications of the time. Basically, back then, without TV, radio, or even newspapers, people could go their whole lives without even knowing the Pope's name, never mind anything he did or said. Most of the time, even the priests were just as much in the dark as the laity were. Any resistance or rebellion would have had to come from the cardinals who worked with him. We are unique in history in that today's technology gives us just about instant access to news from anywhere in the world.
"... the last time we had a seriously bad pope, the laity were completely unaware of it, because of the poor communications of the time."Exactly so. For better or worse, our times give us unprecedented access to information. Remember when you had to go to the library to look stuff up for a research paper? Remember newspapers?!?
"The one that had peaked my interest is several years ago and before I could find the idea anywhere else, she predicts a breaking/spliting off of the African continent. thats about as bold or silly as cab be correct??"Yeah, but the Great Rift Valley has been around since humans left the Garden, and that's basically Africa splitting apart. That's similar to predicting an earthquake in California; eventually, you're gonna be right.
I think this priest is 75 yrs old. at least we will know if Medjugorje is real.With regard to the 10 secrets of Medjugorje , entrusted by the Queen of Peace to the visionaries, it is known that Mirjana will have to reveal, at the right moment, what will happen and what they will refer to.medjugorjeRBPMirjana was the first to receive the last secret of Medjugorje and has the task of revealing them, through the words of Father Petar Ljubicic .Medjugorje: this is how the secrets will be revealedMirjana explained: “I had to choose a priest to tell the ten secrets and I chose the Franciscan father Petar Ljubicic. I have to tell him ten days before what happens and where. We must spend seven days in fasting and prayer and three days before he will have to tell everyone. He has no right to choose: to say or not to say. He has accepted that he will tell everyone all three days before, so it will be seen that it is a thing of the Lord. Our Lady always says: “Do not speak of secrets, but pray and those who hear me as Mother and God as Father, have no fear of anything”. “It was Mirjana herself, therefore, who chose which priest would fulfill the task, since 1985.The events will take place in this way: Mirjana will reveal the secret that Our Lady will allow us to know and God to realize to Father Petar Ljubicic, 10 days before it happens. The priest will read it from a parchment, delivered to Mirjana by the Virgin herself.Mirjana and Father Petar Ljubicic, therefore, will pray and fast for 7 days . Then, 3 days before everything happens, Father Petar Ljubicic will reveal to the whole world what we should expect.When the opportune time arrives, Father Petar Ljubicic will read only one secret at a time (what he will have to reveal), even if all 10 are written on the parchment , which Mirjana guards.Chris
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6767475475753279918&postID=4069778593933641415&page=1&token=1572956458660&bpli=1Fr. Petar Ljubicic has been chosen by Mirjana as the priest to reveal the Ten Secrets. Mirjana has stated that Fr. Petar does not have the choice whether to reveal the secrets or not. He has accepted this responsibility and must fulfill it. Mirjana has shared the following about Fr. Petar and the secrets: “Daily apparitions I had up until Christmas of 1982. That is when I received the tenth secret and Our Lady asked me to choose a priest in whom I will tell the secrets. I chose Father Petar Ljubicic. I am suppose to tell him ten days in advance what will happen and where, seven days we are suppose to spend in prayer and fasting, and three days ahead of time he is suppose to reveal it to the world. He doesn’t have the right to choose whether to say or not to say. He accepted this mission and he has to fulfill that according to God’s Will. But Our Lady always repeats; do not talk about the secrets. You better pray. Because the one who feels Our Lady as a Mother and God as a Father, that person has no fear of anything. Our Lady says that only those who have not yet felt the love of God, they have fear. But we as people, we always talk about the future – what, when, where will things happen. But I always repeat the same thing, who among us present here, can say with certainty that we will be alive tomorrow. Therefore, Our Lady has been teaching us that we must be ready at this .......................................chris
JMC another major factor aside from the advancements in communications, though not apart from it, is the fact that many want to treat Church leaders as if they were strictly politicians. Unfortunately it is hard not to in this age of bishop vs. bishop where the actions of many seem more in line with Charlemagne than the Church Fathers.
Oh, isn't that the truth, Kevin. I often catch myself falling into that trap, and I think it's largely because every other leader is a political figure, so it's almost a knee-jerk response to see Church leaders that way, as well. It doesn't help that so many of them seem to have MADE themselves political figures.
True, but it's a lot easier to fall into the trap of seeing a bishops as politicians when they model their behavior after politicians rather than saints.And if we're being seriously honest, I think there are enough crooked bishops and cardinals in this era to make the Borgia's blush.
Emmett, I loved your book! Very thought-provoking - I'm still thinking it over. One question: there seem to be two versions of Melanie's La Salette secret - one version that says "a king shall ascend the throne and reign MANY years" and a version that says "a FEW years". I find both versions in the Kindle edition of your book. Can you shed light on this? It would seem to have a lot of bearing on the duration of the Reign of the Immaculate Heart. Thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4YvmNyBqu80:54 / 7:01Fr Petar Ljubicic from Medjugorje - a 2011 interviewchris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSsPFzPlHaknotice the 10th secret is the 3 days of darkness infoenjoychris
Thanks Benjamin! The original version of the secrets don't specify how long the restoration will last:"After all these will have arrived, many will recognize the hand of God on them, they will convert, and do penance for their sins.A great king will go up on the throne, and will reign a few years. Religion will re-flourish and spread all over the world, and there will be a great abundance, the world, glad not to be lacking nothing, will fall again in its disorders, will give up God, and will be prone to its criminal passions." (Melanie's 1851 version of the secret)Melanie's later versions say that it will last for 25 years. These later versions are not as reliable as the original 1851 version though. We don't know to what extent Melanie's private meditations (accumulated over many years) have coloured her later writings, and whether or not these were received as a result of a genuine private revelation. The only approved version is that of 1851.
Some behind the news infoI have not yet found the meaning that is staring me in the face but continue pondering ...https://garabandalnews.org/2019/07/09/fr-gruners-letter-about-his-meeting-with-the-russians-online/Fr. Gruner’s letter About his meeting with The Russians online !By Aviso 07/09/2019Source : From one of Fr. Gruner’s BenefactorsI Happen to know one of Fr.Gruner’s benefactors who gave me a copy of a special report sent to him from Fr. Gruner which gives additional details of this aforementioned event at the Ambassy.Considering Fr. Gruner’s recent passing away and the fact that the world is running out of time before the commencement of the Chastisements, I feel it is an opportune time and a benefit to those interested in the Fatima message to make known some of these details.Here is a copy of part of the Letter :
https://garabandalnews.org/2019/04/28/the-full-fatima-secret/scroll down to Father Grunner videp please po pe Benedict info plus...chris
Well, Chris, that's certainly an interesting letter. Given the typos and the reformatting, and the lack of a picture of the original, it's hard to accept the authenticity at face value. We have no provenance for the document, so it's impossible to say.But it's fascinating if it is genuine.
And from the "full Fatima secret" link, that looks like a combination of Akita and what we know of the Fatima message. Again, no provenance and no original. Hard to determine legitimacy.And the Fr. Grunner clip - this is problematic. He point blank says that BXVI did "not resign the munus". But on the text available online, the word "munus" is used only twice, and there is no negation. My Latin isn't all that great, but I don't see how he gets the idea that BXVI did not resign the function of the papacy.
Mark; And they thought it important to learn all they could about the truth of Fatima before the President of Russia met with the Vicar of Christ! this is 2014.(letter) Is it possible that Russia/Putin was not aware of the message and its implications?Could the talk of and spread of the Fatima message on the internetactually have implications in Russia's political moves post the date of this letter? I.E. a message recognized by the Church that Russia will overtake the world, therefore, giving it, ie Russia, a sense of victory in their future.PS I was also intrigued that during the original time period, 1917 , Russia was the U.S.S.R. however Mary used Russia. I wonder if this is a clue for us as i read notions of Russia returning to the old system when a new VALADIMIR IS ELECTED.??Chris
I thought it was interesting and of note that President Donald Trump publicly acknowledged the 100 year anniversary of Fatima in 2017 as well as received a large Fatima statue and devotion sacramentals within the last year as well. His wife, First Lady Melania Trump, is a Slovenia Roman Catholic who has had Pope Francis publicly bless her Rosary. Vice President Mike Pence is a fallen away Catholic who is now into non-Catholic Christianity while still being very friendly to Catholics, I have a Catholic friend in Indianapolis who is close friends with Mr. Pence.I don't know what to make of all this but I have as good of a feeling about it as I can.
AND as I am sure you noticed, Grunner is qUOTING AND REFERRING TO CANON LAW, WHICH ACCORDING TO FR. Grunner, SAYS THE Pope must resign MUNIS.Benedict did not, according to Grunner , therefore remaining the Pope of succession.Frankly I can see how this played and plays a part into conspiracy thought regarding Francis legitimacy and aspersions against Francis WITH RESPECT TO POLITICAL TIES AND ALLEGIENCE AS WELL AS less than Catholic aims.Chris
Kevin; your info as well as all the speculations from the Jewish religious ie 70-year oddities, Gold coin Sirus etcRegardless of the actual causes it certainly brings forth the idea of a guiding hand in this whole Presidential period.And if you are following the fringe ideas on prophecy, there is a Strong belief that Pres Trumph will not BE SEATED! however this plays out and means impeachment, worse?There is also strong military ties to this prophetic belief . Maybe a war with trmendous American damage. Politican or lifes lost.AND the REturn of Obama and Clinton.Chris
Emmett referenced.Forgive if this was already posted.chrishttps://www.romancatholicman.com/leading-expert-catholic-eschatology-weighs-current-earthly-celestial-signs/
Evening Emmett, good to finally put a face to the name, we have probably passed each other hundreds of times at the top of the rock over the years,next time I'm in raffos I'll keep an eye out for ye, well done on the podcast, I thought ye did cracker mucker! Aontu abu!
Ha ha! Good to see you back on here RC! Cheers mate! We have to get out for a beer sometime you're about the road. Mark L is from the murph too, btw.
God is clearly raining down graces on your international readership Emmett if they have the class,wit and repartee of 3 men from the murph on the blog :) new Barnsley,Dermott hill and moyard being greater ballymurphy of course :)Seriously though well done fella,you should definitely get your own podcast on the go, you have enough expertise and plenty of material for many many episodes. Definitely get a beer in the near future, not the whitefort though was in it a few weeks back,none too impressed with the beer selection, don't even think it's called the whitefort anymore
"I was also intrigued that during the original time period, 1917 , Russia was the U.S.S.R. however Mary used Russia."Remember, Russia used a different calendar back then. The "October Revolution" is only called that because of the Russian calendar. In Portugal, the armed insurrection in Petrograd began on 7 November, 1917, which was 25 October in the Russian calendar.Mary was, as always, correct.
"as I am sure you noticed, Grunner is qUOTING AND REFERRING TO CANON LAW, WHICH ACCORDING TO FR. Grunner, SAYS THE Pope must resign MUNIS.Benedict did not, according to Grunner , therefore remaining the Pope of succession.Frankly I can see how this played and plays a part into conspiracy thought regarding Francis legitimacy and aspersions against Francis WITH RESPECT TO POLITICAL TIES AND ALLEGIENCE AS WELL AS less than Catholic aims."I think, Chris, the key to this statement is, "...according to Grunner..."From the Vatican translation:"For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.""Quapropter bene conscius ponderis huius actus plena libertate declaro me ministerio Episcopi Romae, Successoris Sancti Petri, mihi per manus Cardinalium die 19 aprilis MMV commisso renuntiare ita ut a die 28 februarii MMXIII, hora 20, sedes Romae, sedes Sancti Petri vacet et Conclave ad eligendum novum Summum Pontificem ab his quibus competit convocandum esse."Notice a couple of things.His action is directly related to what the Cardinals entrusted to him on 19 April 2005. It's not saying that his action is taken relative to PART of what the Cardinals did, but just simply, what the Cardinals entrusted to him in 2005. The Vatican translation above says, "renounce". This is correct. The Latin text uses, "renuntiare". This is the infinitive form given the -are on the end; to renounce. According to the Dictionary of Ecclesiastical Latin (Leo F. Stelten, 4th printing, 1999), renuntiare is translated, in part, as "renounce, give up...". According to Cassell's Latin Dictionary (I have a copy that's so old it doesn't even have a copyright mark on the front; no idea when it was published), renuntiare means, "to disclaim, refuse, renounce." Notice, the word "resign" is nowhere to be seen.According to Mirriam-Webster, the English word "Renounce" is to, "to give up, abandon, or resign usually by a public declaration." This is interesting, because the order of the definition reflects the commonality of usage. You could just as easily say that BXVI abandoned the bishopric of Rome.The only leg Grunner really had to stand on was the idea that BXVI didn't specifically resign from BOTH the bishopric of Rome AND the function of the papacy. But honestly, I don't think it's even remotely necessary in either language.You can say he resigned his position as pope, but a more literal (and perhaps rather idiomatic) translation is that - and it breaks my heart to say it this way - he abandoned his post.I much prefer resignation.
Mark W; very helpful!!chris
If genuine, the letter Fr. Gruner wrote about meeting with the Russians matches up with something I saw on YouTube earlier this year, which I mentioned in a comment at the time. I don't remember anymore who was speaking in the video, but it was said that, in the subsequent meeting between Putin and Pope Francis, Putin asked something about Fatima, to which Pope Francis was said to have replied, "We will not speak about Fatima." Oddly, shortly afterward, I was informed by another commenter that the speaker in question had retracted that report, and the video was no longer to be found. .So looking a the two incidents - the letter and the retracted report - puts a rather...interesting...spin on the whole situation.
Mark W.A rebuttal of your premise by an educated priest.Verbal candy if you will.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOr3D8okxO4chris
JMCIt was Father Paul Kramer.He originaly posted he has first hand knowledge of Pope F rancid telling Putin we will not discuss Fatima. It is on U tube while he was having dinner. Later he said his sources would not confirm and he retracted his assertion via the same tube.. Am unable to find it since then.Chris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RD5_OHAkzfT_U&v=5_OHAkzfT_U have you ever felt this kind of pain??“Holy Mother, where are you?Tonight I feel broken in two.”Eric Clapton wrote this most beautiful song — a heartfelt prayer to the Blessed Mother. In this benefit concert, watch how beautifully his prayer is expressed with the accompaniment of the great Italian opera singer Luciano Pavarotti.Clapton’s prayer, is indeed real. In his painfully honest memoir, Clapton: The Autobiography, he elaborates on the beginnings of his prayer life — a 1987 rock-bottom moment at the rehab treatment center.“I was in complete despair,” Clapton wrote. “In the privacy of my room, I begged for help. I had no notion who I thought I was talking to, I just knew that I had come to the end of my tether . . . and, getting down on my knees, I surrendered. Within a few days I realized that . . . I had found a place to turn to, a place I’d always known was there but never really wanted, or needed, to believe in. From that day until this, I have never failed to pray in the morning, on my knees, asking for help, and at night, to express gratitude for my life and, most of all, for my sobriety. I choose to kneel because I feel I need to humble myself when I pray, and with my ego, this is the most I can do. If you are asking why I do all this, I will tell you . . . because it works, as simple as that.2eeccb8051e03c3cdadd7c4bbb624fbc“I have always LOVED this song! I LOVE Pavarotti too. So sad that he is gone. It makes me cry each time I listen to it because it is so BEAUTIFUL! When I came to the section in EC’s Autobiography about Holy Mother….. the emotion heard in this song is so GLORIOUS. When EC explained about this song, it hit me so HARD that I knew I must favorite this. Incredible with EC, Pavarotti, choir, and orchestra combined. So very beautiful. The power of music surely surged inthe hearts of the people with the love and devotion to Our Blessed Mother. ” so says Kialubeach Clapton fan.CHRIS
It is indeed beautiful, and I cried too...largely at the thought that this rock star, who had gone down such a terrible path, had turned back to God. Another soul finds hope of salvation; praise be to God!
I think it is about thisThe Day Eric Clapton's Son Was Killed in 49-Story Fallhttps://ultimateclassicrock.com › eric-clapton-son-...On March 20, 1991, Eric Clapton suffered a parent's worst nightmare. In a heartbreaking tragic accident, Clapton's four-and-a-half-year-old son, Conor, fell out of an open window in the high-rise New York condominium he was living in with his mother, actress and Italian television personality Lory Del Santo.chris
I just read a very interesting article by George Weigel over at First Things, discussing the Amazonian synod. In it, he points out that an incautious clergyman participating in the synod was heard to say passionately, "This is our last chance." My mind was forcibly snapped to the upcoming rededication of England, and the prophesied return of Mary to the British Isles afterward. Will 2020 be the year Satan is once more chained? One can only hope.https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2019/10/letters-from-the-synod-2019-9
Been reading through St. Robert Bellarmine's book on AntiChrist. It's an interesting read - both complimentary and contrasting to the new interpretations we're discussing here. Bellarmine presses strongly for a real Enoch and Elijah appearance in the 3.5 years of AntiChrist's reign. I wonder if there might not be a double fulfillment here. If the Angelic Pope and the Great Catholic Monarch are types of Elijah and Enoch respectively, perhaps they will be slain before the great cataclysm as Emmet suggests, but subsequently Elijah and Enoch appear after the cataclysm. The AntiChrist too, according to Bellarmine, must die and rise again (though falsely). Bellarmine's reading of Daniel thru the Fathers suggests that AntiChrist must die on the Mount of Olives before the great cataclysm (since Daniel 12 follows his death), and Christ's Olivet sequence is "abomination/cataclysm/false Christs". So perhaps there is a two fold battle with AntiChrist - the man who invades Egypt and Ethiopia and commits the abomination and fights the Angelic Pope and Catholic Monarch, then cataclysm, and then the "resurrected" AntiChrist confronting Elijah and Enoch in the flesh working wonders.
Medjugorje: Mirjana — “Then Our Lady showed me the realization of the first secret. The vision appeared to me like a movie. The earth was desolate…and there was upheaval of a region of the world…Pray for unbelievers, they do not know what awaits them.”November 7, 2019
EMJ is hitting hard in his latest video, have a watch/listen:https://www.bitchute.com/video/jopKxA2G1D8C/
mark LI recall reading a prophecy which states England will be under water for seven days. do you think this, if accurate will precede or even cause the emergence of the Monarck and mass convwersion??Chris
kevin Intersting video.thanksChris
https://casorosendi.wordpress.com/2019/08/24/will-the-pope-and-bhops-save-us-from-a-coming-chastisement/While there are other good explanations of the 101 times that Our Lady’s statue shed tears which do not contradict the above interpretation, the above interpretation seems to be the most probable meaning relating to Oct. 13 of why the statue of Our Lady in Akita shed tears 101 times during her apparitions to Sr. Agnes Sasagawa. Could it be that Our Lady shed tears for each year that sin would reign, and so many souls would go to eternal punishment....................chris
According to this interpretation, if the leaders of the Church and nations have not opposed these “sins of the flesh” by Oct. 13, 2019, sometime after Oct 13, 2019, God will stop Satan with a chastisement which will bring mankind to its knees. This is both good and bad news. Even though our Lady’s message says that many will not survive the chastisement, those who do so will once again worship God as He intended and Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart will triumph and there will be peace.
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/139530/under-watchful-eye-vatican-canaanite-idol-moloch-on-display-in-rome/With Approval from Vatican: Canaanite Idol ‘Moloch’ Put on Display in RomeBy David Sidman November 7, 2019 , 10:28 am The pagan Canaanite idol who required child sacrifice was displayed at the entrance of the Colosseum in Rome as part of a secular historical exhibition. The exhibition is part of a larger exhibit dedicated to Ancient Rome’s historic adversary, the city of Carthage. The exhibition is called ‘Carthago: The immortal myth’. It runs until March 29, 2020.Can't make this up!!Chris
It seems that is what the people in the know are telling us MarkChrishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=77&v=soUWwsjAWtcTHE WARNING-The Coming Illumination of Conscience of Souls When We Will See Ourselves as God Sees Us•Nov 5, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2WdlKBOD1QThe Father Fuentes Interviewre LuciaCHRIS
Was the Consecration accepted?NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PER Luciavery early in the interviewChris
But should Gruner be viewed as a legitimate source? The problem with relying on Sr Lucia's words are that she was bound by obedience to her superiors. I really begin to think that, at times, she was instructed to lie about the consecration. But now there's so much misinformation on this subject that is difficult - at best - to sort fact from fiction. Into this steps Gruner...I honestly don't know what to make of him. I disagree with his Latin as I mentioned above, so that makes it even tougher to accept some of the things he says.
The problem with listening to Sr. Lucia, beyond the 1950's is that there has been much speculation that the acual Lucia that was at Fatima died in the late 50's and had been replaced in an official capacity by another "Lucia" that looked nothing like the original. Facial features don't match, Lucia's bad teeth don't match the new "Lucia" who has near flawless teeth. The REAL Lucia was called to a monastic vocation, not to be a religious celebrity.I am at the point in thinking that Fatima has been so thoroughly dissected and most, if not all, of what was spoken of in the apparition messages has come to pass that there is no further need to do anything other than to adhere to the devotional aspects of Fatima if one so chooses.
And this is now on the mainstream media:https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/scalfari-pope-denied-jesus-bodily-resurrection-says-it-was-semblance-spirit
mark WTherein lies the answer. the church SILENCED Sister completely. so where are all these quotes coming from about Fatima?Father Grunner led informing about this.He did not quote her. And you are certainly allowed your opinion, but I think ZERO chance of her lying about the consecration. ZEROI notice how all the experts came to the front when she and Malichi died.What is in that secret? IT is a schocker!!!1Chrs
mark W He is the guy responsible for all the off the wall Pope quotes.Why doesn't the pontiff object or not use him as a source?All headscratchers.chris
I posted about a prophecy claiming England under water for ten years. I think it should be ten DAYShttp://www.todayscatholicworld.com/great-catholic-monarch.htmProphesies Regarding the Coming Great Catholic Monarchchris
The New Akita Message Is Absolutely Terrifying https://www.thecampofsaints.com/2019/11/the-new-akita-message-is-absolutely.html40 days from October 6, 2019, when this new message was received by Sr. Sasawaga, is November 15. 40 days is the amount of time the Kingdom of Nineveh was given to repent. Here is the Gospel reading in the Ordinary Form on November 15:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=5-FvMvsnttc&feature=emb_logoThe visionary Mirjana Soldo explains the ten secrets that she has been given by the Blessed Virgin Mary in Medjugorje. Our Lady has given the seers ten secrets which include a permanent sign and events that will affect mankind's future. We interviewed Mirjana Soldo, one of the six visionaries of Medjugorje, for our DVD "Miracles of Medjugorje." Visit www.qopproductions.org to learn about our ministry, Queen of Peace Productions.
Mark - be assured that suicide is a mortal sin that sends one to Hell necessarily since one cannot repent of the sin after death. Whatever you're going through, turn to Our Lady and Christ through prayer, especially the Rosary. God will never refuse the supernatural gift of hope to one who asks for it!
No, Benjamin, that's not quite the Church teaching on this subject. Mark L, I can't answer this right now as it's rather lengthy. I'll try to put something up this weekend.
I'll get you something this weekend, Mark. But here are a couple of things...You can't assume. Suicide can lead directly to hell, could lead to purgatory, but would be an exceptionally rare way to get directly to heaven. Remember, you're going to have to explain this to Someone (see what I did there?) on the other side of death. In that explanation, hiding behind rationalizations won't help.Second, in moments that get tough, don't forget your patron and your Guardian Angel. And an appeal to our namesake is mighty handy as well.Seek professional help. Seriously, you're not alone. Hopefully, the mental healthcare system in the UK is more humane than what I've heard about your physical healthcare system...or what Jason said about the Canadian system.Lastly, there can be a diabolical element to every suicide. Don't discount this. And if you do nothing else, fight against that. Examine your life for possible contamination with the diabolical. Drop me a note. windsor34 ( a t gm a il. c o m . But remember, the dark side can see what you put in into the physical world, but without special permission from On High, they can't necessarily tell what you hold in the silence of your own heart and mind. I'd recommend not putting much more out here on the blog, but speak as freely as you need to by e-mail.Stay in touch. I got your back.Mark
God bless you, Mark L. Some great words of wisdom and support there from Mark W. No need to apologise for speaking from a place of pain, but also a place of reality and truth and a profound and heartfelt faith.All the very best,John (a daily reader and an infrequent commenter, also watching the weather with interest from my vantage point on the North Wales coast!)
mark l continue to post and read here and know you are a valued member of this blog and have people who enjoy your posts and ideas. take a deep breath and call National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, 1-800-273-TALK (8255) or LIVE CHAT you just need to have an ear to get through and out of this minutes feeling.CHRIS
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